Arbor Station HOA a bust??

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Dville Citizen

Douglasville, GA

#1 Jul 8, 2008
I have lived in Arbor Station for five years and it has continually gone down hill. It does not look like there are covenants here anymore - and we pay over 200 dollars per year!
All the president can say when I complain is call the police or code enforcement - he doesn't seem to want to do his job and enforce regulations.
Anyone else having this problem or concern?
whyus

Braselton, GA

#2 Jul 8, 2008
If there are violations and they refuse to enforce them sue the HOA.
mmm15937

United States

#3 Jul 8, 2008
Most people don't care about a home anymore. Its just a place they piss in and sleep in. The next time I move it will not be in a subdivision.
The one I live in now is only four years old and looks run down already. People not cutting grass, letting weeds grow up in the flower beds that came with the house they bought just a couple years ago.
With the new regulations that the goverment is coming down for lending to buy a house they should also add the following before you are allowed to buy a house.

1. You have to show you own a lawn mower and show you know how to use it.

2. Go to Home Depot and identify the following items. Paint brush, roller, paint, hammer, nails, hedge clippers, rake, shovel, etc. and show you have the skill to use the above items. If you can not do these simple things you should not be allowed to own a home and stay with you parents till they teach you how to use them.
whyus

Braselton, GA

#4 Jul 8, 2008
Dang I don't know what an etc is. Do I have to move back in with my mom?
mama moon

Atlanta, GA

#5 Jul 9, 2008
We have lived in a subdivison for over seven years of 300,- l.5 mil.priced homes. We do not have a community pool, so our HOA have only been $150.00 which mainly pays for the upkeep of the entrance. When we moved in it was 95% White - Now it is very racially mixed. We just received a letter that less than half have paid the dues and the HOA is broke. What do they do - make the people pay that still owe - NO!!!!- They send a letter out wanting the rest of us to pay 6 months early and they increased it to $250.00 Stupid - just like the government -
whyus

Braselton, GA

#6 Jul 9, 2008
Quit paying, that will teach them a lesson.
SaddleBrookSUCKS

Douglasville, GA

#7 Jul 13, 2008
whyus wrote:
Quit paying, that will teach them a lesson.
We tried that with our HOA and they threatened to put a lien on our home. The only thing our HOA cares about is the pool. We pay our dues year after year, all the while the HOA does NOTHING to protect our property values.

Just take a drive down Prestley Mill and look at some of the houses across from Timberidge Stables (yes, those houses are a part of Saddle Brook). Some of the houses still look nice but man there is one that should be condemned.
whyus

Braselton, GA

#8 Jul 13, 2008
My quit paying was a joke. Read the covenenants, if the HOA refuses to enforce them threaten to sue. But you must be prepared to sue.
Trina

Douglasville, GA

#9 Jul 14, 2008
HOA suck. My first house was in a neighborhood with strict covenants. I went to HomeDepot spent like 450$ on beautiful plants, dirt, tools, and a flowering bushes. 4 days after all that money and hard labor I get a letter stating the plants were not approved, and I had 72 hours to remove them all. Of coarse I had already thrown the pots away and could not even return them. So my sister got all the re-dug up plants.

8 months later a family of 7 moved in the house across the street. Toys and ugly "Lil Tykes" plastic kids furniture , sand boxes, everything. It looked like a day care center IN THE FRONT YARD.
6 months after they moved in the house next door turned into a rental, had a broke down 70s mustang (rusted and never worked on in yard and 8 dogs barking all night and when we would swim in our pool.
When I brought these to the HOA they told me to call the county.

It drove me crazy. I could understand if I planted ugly mis matched flowers. I am still PO about that, and don't even live there anymore.
I will NEVER live under another HOA again.
Arbor Station Resident

Douglasville, GA

#10 Jul 14, 2008
When I first moved to Arbor Station I received:
a. a welcoming committee telling me they were glad to see me?
b. a visit from the president of the Arbor Station Homeowners Association with a basket of flowers? or
c. An ugly hateful newsletter every month telling me that the Arbor Station HOA was going to sue the socks off everyone in sight and reminding people that they would bring charges against anyone they could for any infraction they could find.

Try C. You are a winner. We couldn't believe the hateful venom of the "life-time" president and group of thugs that seemed to come out of nowhere and ruin any idea we might have had that we now lived in an ideal place.

The hateful newsletters and threats went on for about 18 months until one day the president realized that all or most of Creekwood Drive wasn't covered by covenants due to the lucky-for-us incompentent developers who forgot to include a large number of homes under their umbrella. As a result, we stopped getting those hateful newsletters, never heard from the Arbor Station HOA ever again, thankfully, and except for the threats that appear on the sign infront of the Community center, we have been able to live in peace.
A lot of Homeowner's associations are run by crooks and thugs, unfortunately. They had the audacity to park a sign at the entrance of Arbor Station saying that it is a "tennis and swim" community when it is only that for a few people.

At least I don't have to know any of those silly jerks. Thank Goodness.
whyus

Braselton, GA

#11 Jul 14, 2008
HOA don't suck if they are run by people who care and not in it for the power.
Get Informed

New York, NY

#12 Jul 15, 2008
Arbor Station Resident / Dville Citizen:

As someone who has been involved with the ASHOS for a while let me ask you a question:

Have you ever gone to a meeting of the ASHOS Board? They are generally held the last Tuesday of the month except during the summer and the annual General Meeting is on a Saturday in December.

Or another question: Have you volunteered to help the Board by starting a welcoming committee? Or for that matter, helping with anything??

One thing that I cannot abide is uninformed ranting. So please, get you facts straight:

The $260.00+ that is the Annual Assessment is fairly low considering what most HOA’s have to charge for smaller associations and with less amenities.

The AS covenants cover many items that are also covered by local ordinances. Why would any HOA want to try to enforce a covenant at a cost to the HOA when citys/counties have code-enforcement officers that get paid to do it? Would you rather that Board spend your money (parts of your $260) to cut your neighbor’s grass / have the ASHOS’s lawyers send a letter, or use it to keep the common areas maintained (keeping that $260.00 as low as possible)? If the offence is something that is not covered by an ordinance (wild color scheme paint, etc.) ASHOS does what it can with the limited resources available. If you actually read any of the Village News bulletins you would see where this is discussed and the phone numbers for the City of Douglasville Code Enforcement.

The current president has known about the mishandled Covenants for Creekwood 2 – 6 since before his first election to the board over 10 years ago. This was caused by the developer and had nothing to do with the ASHOS Board of Directors, past or present.

The information contained in the Village News was mostly positive. Originally it was a mailer, then it became a download from the website (saving postage and printing costs). Currently, information is posted directly to the website. When it was produced, the only ‘negatives’ in it would be the reminders about keeping your property up (under the covenants and local ordinance) and information about non-paying (AKA deadbeat) properties. By the way: all the information about recovery of Dues was put into the Village News to inform you, as a co-owner of the ASHOS property (all 32 acres including: 3 buildings, 2 pools, 4 tennis courts, a boat yard, walking trails, ball fields and the entrances), that you have deadbeat neighbors who feel that they should not have to pay their share of the cost to keep your property (the common areas) maintained while all the time enjoying the benefits of having these amenities.

The current president has served at the pleasure of the Board and is up for re-election each January. He is entitled to be elected to the thankless, unpaid, job as President because the few people that bother to show up to the Annual Meetings vote him onto the Board every other year.

There is a sign stating that Arbor Station is a swim/tennis community because it is one. All the amenities belong to you and as a homeowner in AS you have a responsibility to maintain them. The cost to operate the pool and tennis courts are born by those Association members (in good standing) that elect to pay the optional $50.00 annual fee (down from $150.00 several years back) to be a member of the pool. Note: This year we have set a record for the number of member-families so I guess that the Board is doing something right.

continued:
Get Informed

New York, NY

#13 Jul 15, 2008
continued:

Editorial Comments:

Arbor Station is an old PUD (I believe that it was the first in Douglas County) started over 34 years ago. Once upon a time it was one of the high-end developments in the County, in my estimation it is in the middle tier now since the average home is now under $200k in value. Houses have been bought and sold many times. Many are now rental properties. The ‘new car smell’ has been long gone. However, over the last 10 years the “thugs” on the Board have brought the amenities back from the brink of ruin to something you can be proud of (even without the fire that necessitated the replacement of the large clubhouse). With the parties that are hosted at the Club (paid for by revenues generated by the snack bar – not assessments!) a sense of community is being brought back to AS. I do not know what your idea of an “ideal place” is but if you bought any home short of one built in your personal version of heaven, you are going to be disappointed by what is offered here in the real world.

As far as not having to know any of your “silly jerk” neighbors, I would suggest that you chill out, join the pool and get to know your the fellow human beings that are your neighbors. If you cannot chill out, please do not join – we prefer the company of sensible people.

And if you absolutely cannot stand it, sell your house and move away. Or get elected to the Board in December and convince the other “thugs” to elect you president and change everything you can under the covenants to your liking.

And before you assume; no I am not the President of ASHOS nor am I related to him.

PS:
I agree with whyus, HOA’s are successful is they are run by people with the right mindset. The current Board at ASHOS is made up of volunteers that do the best that they can given the limitations of the Documents and available monies.
Arbor Station Resident

Douglasville, GA

#14 Jul 15, 2008
Well, Mr. Get Informed,
You can't convince me that "almost everything in the newsletter was positive." I kept the exasperating hateful newsletters as a reminder to never allow my property to come under the influence of the thugs that came up with such negative material. It was exceedingly offensive and on the front page in a prominent position.
You only get one chance to welcome a newcomer to your community and if you blow that and continue to blow it by publishing more hate mail, then don't expect anyone to want to jump to the head of a low-class class. I am venting here because this is the first place I've seen where the public can see you people for what you are. Those hateful signs you post in front of the clubhouse should be banned from this community. And if this is a thankless job for your president, it is because he doesn't deserve any thanks. He is the one who kept being on the big power trip trying to threaten prosecution to everyone in sight, as if any of us are guilty of something, which we are not.
I am perfectly happy to live here as a private citizen. I can see who you people are and I have no intentions of moving anywhere or joining your little clique either. Very few people play tennis and swim out of the many people who live and work in this area. It could just as easily be called a "community of people helping people." You tennis swimmers visually pollute the neighborhood with your signs, discouraging those who might live here who don't participate in either activity. Either soften your image or get the hell out of my neighborhood.
FYI

Stockbridge, GA

#15 Jul 15, 2008
Just curious, I don't live there. What do the "hateful" signs at the clubhouse say?
Rover

United States

#16 Jul 15, 2008
FYI wrote:
Just curious, I don't live there. What do the "hateful" signs at the clubhouse say?
Please shower before entering the pool.
FYI

Stockbridge, GA

#17 Jul 15, 2008
LOL
Another AS Resident

Douglasville, GA

#18 Jul 15, 2008
I live there, and I don't know what signs you mean. I can guess that they're the ones about filing a lien for those that haven't paid thier dues and are something like 9mos late. Shockingly offensive, let me tell you. Expecting people to pay their bills... the nerve of some people!
All the newsletters are online.. let's see the complaining poster pull up the offensive one... I'd like to see it!!
Get Informed

New York, NY

#19 Jul 15, 2008
Arbor Station Resident:

I have reviewed some of my copies of the Village News Starting from November of 2000 (however, you said that you have lived here for about five years) and all I can say is if you find information on the front page "exasperating hateful" and “exceedingly offensive” you must not read any of the other threads on this forum. The November 2000 issue (#6) was strong in its wording to covey that yes, there are standards and the community wants them maintained. Hateful?? Offensive?? I guess I have different standards for hate and taking offense than you.

Mostly, the Village Newsletters contained information concerning completed projects, upcoming projects, budgets and yes, non-paying owners is on those front pages. The back pages had such "hateful" things as do not post bills on trees or on Village Signs, info about the most common complaints for covenant violations, do not steal the mulch, Neighborhood Crime Watch info, non-members cannot use the amenities, thank you’s to various people and companies for the services they performed, etc. Not exactly “hateful”, unlike calling the Board Members “thugs” and “silly jerks”. Additionally, if you found the information in the newsletters instructive in how to keep your property within the covenants (“a reminder to never allow my property to come under the influence of the thugs that came up with such negative material”) then publishing the information was successful in your case.

I am sorry that a neighborhood representative did not bring you cookies or flowers when you moved in. When informed of a new resident the Board has recognized them at meetings. When you have over 700 living units, real estate agents that do not report to the Board and no employees – just volunteers - it can be difficult to keep track of new residents.

IMHO, you are overreacting. And if all you want to do is vent your spleen about your perceived wrongs at Arbor Station, write a letter and send it to Santa. If you post misinformation publicly and slander the good people who take the time to administer the neighborhood you desire to live in while not doing a single thing yourself, a response is what you get.

Me, well I guess that I will rejoin ‘my people’ and enjoy they amenities at Arbor Station. It is not too late for you, relax and embrace you neighbors and join us – there is no Kool-Aide drinking required, only getting along with others.

Have a nice day.
underdog

United States

#20 Jul 15, 2008
Get Informed wrote:
Arbor Station Resident:
I have reviewed some of my copies of the Village News Starting from November of 2000 (however, you said that you have lived here for about five years) and all I can say is if you find information on the front page "exasperating hateful" and “exceedingly offensive” you must not read any of the other threads on this forum. The November 2000 issue (#6) was strong in its wording to covey that yes, there are standards and the community wants them maintained. Hateful?? Offensive?? I guess I have different standards for hate and taking offense than you.
Mostly, the Village Newsletters contained information concerning completed projects, upcoming projects, budgets and yes, non-paying owners is on those front pages. The back pages had such "hateful" things as do not post bills on trees or on Village Signs, info about the most common complaints for covenant violations, do not steal the mulch, Neighborhood Crime Watch info, non-members cannot use the amenities, thank you’s to various people and companies for the services they performed, etc. Not exactly “hateful”, unlike calling the Board Members “thugs” and “silly jerks”. Additionally, if you found the information in the newsletters instructive in how to keep your property within the covenants (“a reminder to never allow my property to come under the influence of the thugs that came up with such negative material”) then publishing the information was successful in your case.
I am sorry that a neighborhood representative did not bring you cookies or flowers when you moved in. When informed of a new resident the Board has recognized them at meetings. When you have over 700 living units, real estate agents that do not report to the Board and no employees – just volunteers - it can be difficult to keep track of new residents.
IMHO, you are overreacting. And if all you want to do is vent your spleen about your perceived wrongs at Arbor Station, write a letter and send it to Santa. If you post misinformation publicly and slander the good people who take the time to administer the neighborhood you desire to live in while not doing a single thing yourself, a response is what you get.
Me, well I guess that I will rejoin ‘my people’ and enjoy they amenities at Arbor Station. It is not too late for you, relax and embrace you neighbors and join us – there is no Kool-Aide drinking required, only getting along with others.
Have a nice day.
now this one sounds like a real bitch

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