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I have read many post about this program none good. While I do not agree with the section 8 program as is, I just wanted to set the facts straight. If everyone think section 8 is such an horrible program why do landlords/homeowners keep renting to section 8? And before you respond its because they have to THAT IS NOT TRUE. Actually you have to apply to become a landlord/homeowner that accept section 8. For an example if I put my house up for rent today I could not accept section 8. I have to go threw an application process for my house become a section 8 approved property. So knowing this, do you think the landlords/homeowners who go out they way to rent to section 8 are just as responsible as the people who get it?

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Because they are guaranteed a check every month.

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Mar 24, 2011
 
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I have read many post about this program none good. While I do not agree with the section 8 program as is, I just wanted to set the facts straight. If everyone think section 8 is such an horrible program why do landlords/homeowners keep renting to section 8? And before you respond its because they have to THAT IS NOT TRUE. Actually you have to apply to become a landlord/homeowner that accept section 8. For an example if I put my house up for rent today I could not accept section 8. I have to go threw an application process for my house become a section 8 approved property. So knowing this, do you think the landlords/homeowners who go out they way to rent to section 8 are just as responsible as the people who get it?
People rent their property Section 8 because the government guanantees such a high portion of the rent and it's my understanding that when you compare equal properties the Sec 8 one will bring in more revenue monthly than the non Sec 8.
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When your renting section 8 you get a guaranteed income from the federal government. As the feds have a bottomless pit of money to give to you. Your standard hoods have no income therefore could not pay rent of any kind. Most of your other renters are basically white trash. I know that's not true in all cases but most. The white trash will have some income but will do nothing more to keep the property up than the hoods will. The white trash will move on about once a year when they run out of money or the cockroaches throw them out because even the cockroaches have standards. The hoods will stay till the roof falls in or the government cuts off the funds. Which ever comes first.
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I know all of these statements are true, but again they all seem to focus on the renter. What about the landlord/homeowner who doing the renting. If no landlord/homeowner accepted the program then the section 8 would go away. I'm only started this forum because of an experience I had a work today. Me and one of my clients who is upper middle class and white was talking about it today. Just to give you a little background. She is a landlord she owns a couple of rental properties. I do the accounting for her. Her husband is a doctor with his own practice. I also his accounting. They live in the John creek area. If you know it then you know it is very upscale. So they are far from white trash. Anyway she was signed a new lease today for an rental. The renter has section 8. Her and a neighbor of hers was talking down about the program. How these people need to get a job and things like that. The her neighbor turns to me and ask why do so many black people get on the program and never get off. And why do black women choose to be single mothers. I guest because I'm black I was suppose to know the answer to all the black problems in the country. But because I was working with a client and I wanted to remain professional I just answer I have no idea and change the subject to the current rental lease. I don't want to get into the whole race thing. That is not the point of me telling you the story so please don't zoom in on that part and change the forum to something about statics. My question is how can someone accept section 8 rental and then turn around and down the program. In my opinion the greedy landlord/homeowners who accept section 8 so they can over charge for rent. And I know for a fact with her anyway if a working person and section 8 came in and wanted a rental she will give it to section 8 1st, because she can charge higher rent. So why do we always go after the section 8 renters and not the landlords/homeowners who rent to them. They greed keep the program going.
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NYC718 wrote:
Wall of text...
No offence, but please use paragraphs.

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Teacher wrote:
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No offence, but please use paragraphs.
LOL....that's always my pet peeve as well.

Seriously, though, I do have many friends who have rental properties and they are section 8 certified. The bottom line is the government guarantees their rent.
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I know all of these statements are true, but again they all seem to focus on the renter. What about the landlord/homeowner who doing the renting. If no landlord/homeowner accepted the program then the section 8 would go away. I'm only started this forum because of an experience I had a work today. Me and one of my clients who is upper middle class and white was talking about it today. Just to give you a little background. She is a landlord she owns a couple of rental properties. I do the accounting for her. Her husband is a doctor with his own practice. I also his accounting. They live in the John creek area. If you know it then you know it is very upscale. So they are far from white trash. Anyway she was signed a new lease today for an rental. The renter has section 8. Her and a neighbor of hers was talking down about the program. How these people need to get a job and things like that. The her neighbor turns to me and ask why do so many black people get on the program and never get off. And why do black women choose to be single mothers. I guest because I'm black I was suppose to know the answer to all the black problems in the country. But because I was working with a client and I wanted to remain professional I just answer I have no idea and change the subject to the current rental lease. I don't want to get into the whole race thing. That is not the point of me telling you the story so please don't zoom in on that part and change the forum to something about statics. My question is how can someone accept section 8 rental and then turn around and down the program. In my opinion the greedy landlord/homeowners who accept section 8 so they can over charge for rent. And I know for a fact with her anyway if a working person and section 8 came in and wanted a rental she will give it to section 8 1st, because she can charge higher rent. So why do we always go after the section 8 renters and not the landlords/homeowners who rent to them. They greed keep the program going.
I did not imply the landlords are white trash the renters usually are. I agree its about greed and a guaranteed check. The white trash may skip out on you because they have no money. The hoods will always have a check coming in if they work or not. The landlords know they will get their money from the government.
If I were running the world renters could only live in apartments. Renting in a subdivision would be against code and would not be allowed.

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Mar 24, 2011
 
NYC718 wrote:
I know all of these statements are true, but again they all seem to focus on the renter. What about the landlord/homeowner who doing the renting. If no landlord/homeowner accepted the program then the section 8 would go away. I'm only started this forum because of an experience I had a work today. Me and one of my clients who is upper middle class and white was talking about it today. Just to give you a little background. She is a landlord she owns a couple of rental properties. I do the accounting for her. Her husband is a doctor with his own practice. I also his accounting. They live in the John creek area. If you know it then you know it is very upscale. So they are far from white trash. Anyway she was signed a new lease today for an rental. The renter has section 8. Her and a neighbor of hers was talking down about the program. How these people need to get a job and things like that. The her neighbor turns to me and ask why do so many black people get on the program and never get off. And why do black women choose to be single mothers. I guest because I'm black I was suppose to know the answer to all the black problems in the country. But because I was working with a client and I wanted to remain professional I just answer I have no idea and change the subject to the current rental lease. I don't want to get into the whole race thing. That is not the point of me telling you the story so please don't zoom in on that part and change the forum to something about statics. My question is how can someone accept section 8 rental and then turn around and down the program. In my opinion the greedy landlord/homeowners who accept section 8 so they can over charge for rent. And I know for a fact with her anyway if a working person and section 8 came in and wanted a rental she will give it to section 8 1st, because she can charge higher rent. So why do we always go after the section 8 renters and not the landlords/homeowners who rent to them. They greed keep the program going.
I have owned rental property for over 15 years and I would never rent Section 8. I want no part of it. Years ago you could actually find good tenants but now they are few and far between. I have enough problems with tenants but I believe having government dependant tenants would bring even worse problems and I don't want to be a contributor to the downfall of Douglasville.

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I have owned rental property for over 15 years and I would never rent Section 8. I want no part of it. Years ago you could actually find good tenants but now they are few and far between. I have enough problems with tenants but I believe having government dependant tenants would bring even worse problems and I don't want to be a contributor to the downfall of Douglasville.
Thank you wess. This is point. How can you talk down about an program and then turn around and profit from it. To me its like getting mad at the crackheads/methheads but not the drug dealer who is making money from it. Add to the fact that there are not many landlords like you. A lot of them prefer section 8 over working people. But then turn around and yell they want they America back and work for a living.

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Thank you wess. This is point. How can you talk down about an program and then turn around and profit from it. To me its like getting mad at the crackheads/methheads but not the drug dealer who is making money from it. Add to the fact that there are not many landlords like you. A lot of them prefer section 8 over working people. But then turn around and yell they want they America back and work for a living.
You are correct and I agree wholeheartedly.

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Thank you wess. This is point. How can you talk down about an program and then turn around and profit from it. To me its like getting mad at the crackheads/methheads but not the drug dealer who is making money from it. Add to the fact that there are not many landlords like you. A lot of them prefer section 8 over working people. But then turn around and yell they want they America back and work for a living.
Consider: A developer is looking for cheap property to develop within the Atlanta area so this developer (most are white) finds larger tracts (mostly owned by whites) of property in D County. They turn to their banker (mostly white) to get the loan to buy the property and hire building contractors (mostly white). They get the property rezoned through those in government (mostly white) to build starter homes with a percentage of them being sold to the modern day slumlords (mostly white) for sec 8 housing. So now the county isn't a bedroom community with a few sec 8 houses but the entire county becomes the new "Projects". I don't blame those that moved in, I blame those that took the money and ran sticking it to the rest of us.
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Consider: A developer is looking for cheap property to develop within the Atlanta area so this developer (most are white) finds larger tracts (mostly owned by whites) of property in D County. They turn to their banker (mostly white) to get the loan to buy the property and hire building contractors (mostly white). They get the property rezoned through those in government (mostly white) to build starter homes with a percentage of them being sold to the modern day slumlords (mostly white) for sec 8 housing. So now the county isn't a bedroom community with a few sec 8 houses but the entire county becomes the new "Projects". I don't blame those that moved in, I blame those that took the money and ran sticking it to the rest of us.
I ran when I knew the mall was coming. I knew what would be coming with it.

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Consider: A developer is looking for cheap property to develop within the Atlanta area so this developer (most are white) finds larger tracts (mostly owned by whites) of property in D County. They turn to their banker (mostly white) to get the loan to buy the property and hire building contractors (mostly white). They get the property rezoned through those in government (mostly white) to build starter homes with a percentage of them being sold to the modern day slumlords (mostly white) for sec 8 housing. So now the county isn't a bedroom community with a few sec 8 houses but the entire county becomes the new "Projects". I don't blame those that moved in, I blame those that took the money and ran sticking it to the rest of us.
AMEN!
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I know all of these statements are true, but again they all seem to focus on the renter. What about the landlord/homeowner who doing the renting. If no landlord/homeowner accepted the program then the section 8 would go away. I'm only started this forum because of an experience I had a work today. Me and one of my clients who is upper middle class and white was talking about it today. Just to give you a little background. She is a landlord she owns a couple of rental properties. I do the accounting for her. Her husband is a doctor with his own practice. I also his accounting. They live in the John creek area. If you know it then you know it is very upscale. So they are far from white trash. Anyway she was signed a new lease today for an rental. The renter has section 8. Her and a neighbor of hers was talking down about the program. How these people need to get a job and things like that. The her neighbor turns to me and ask why do so many black people get on the program and never get off. And why do black women choose to be single mothers. I guest because I'm black I was suppose to know the answer to all the black problems in the country. But because I was working with a client and I wanted to remain professional I just answer I have no idea and change the subject to the current rental lease. I don't want to get into the whole race thing. That is not the point of me telling you the story so please don't zoom in on that part and change the forum to something about statics. My question is how can someone accept section 8 rental and then turn around and down the program. In my opinion the greedy landlord/homeowners who accept section 8 so they can over charge for rent. And I know for a fact with her anyway if a working person and section 8 came in and wanted a rental she will give it to section 8 1st, because she can charge higher rent. So why do we always go after the section 8 renters and not the landlords/homeowners who rent to them. They greed keep the program going.
why do you call them GREEDY?They own more homes than you.They have a plan for their money, you work and will never be more than a paycheck away from BROKE.thats what JOB stands for.JUST OVER BROKE.Put some goals in your life, There is plenty of room at the top for anyone, but sitting on your ass on the computer complaining about someone who WANTS something out of life and WORKS to get it, well you are the GREEDY one.Keep buying lottery tickets
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why do you call them GREEDY?They own more homes than you.They have a plan for their money, you work and will never be more than a paycheck away from BROKE.thats what JOB stands for.JUST OVER BROKE.Put some goals in your life, There is plenty of room at the top for anyone, but sitting on your ass on the computer complaining about someone who WANTS something out of life and WORKS to get it, well you are the GREEDY one.Keep buying lottery tickets
I know I said someone where in my post that she was a client. One of many. I have my own business. I am an CPA. I own a home here in Douglas county so no I don't rent. And no I'm not one or two paychecks from being broke. I live in a $300,000 house and I was able to put enough of an down payment on my house from the sale of my NYC condo that my mortgage is only $870 a month with taxes and insurance. I also drive a paid for benz. So you do the math. Do I sound like a person 1 paycheck from being broke. Oh and I don't play lotto.
I just don't understand how people like you can talk down about section 8 and the people on it, then turn around and profit from it. Well if the people who are on section 8 is low life scum, then guest what so are the people who profit from it.

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The Section 8 slumlords are sponging off the system just like the renters that occupy their houses.
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Section 8 needs to go away. Clayton county has plenty of affordable housing. Don't like it there, then change the "Victor Hill" mentality of government in Clayton, or work yourself up and out of there.

The owner of any rental property has to be responsible for who they rent to, and for the condition of the property.

If DC is so upset about this situation, then get code enforcement and the sheriffs department off their backsides and off of litter patrol, and start enforcing and fining the owners.

The residents of DC need to overload the county with complaints about sub standard properties and stand up and protect their property for standards and value.

Quit being so afraid of the "political correctness" or the "entitlements due the people" because of clinton and obama.
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I have 9 houses on section 8.My check is in t e bank on the first of the month EVERY MONTH-no excuses, nolate rent, no problems.I also drive a bmw Z4 that YOU paid for.thanks and you should really check into buying up a few houses and put them on section 8.Its a great way to make a WONDERFUL living providing thugs with a place to call home
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I have 9 houses on section 8.My check is in t e bank on the first of the month EVERY MONTH-no excuses, nolate rent, no problems.I also drive a bmw Z4 that YOU paid for.thanks and you should really check into buying up a few houses and put them on section 8.Its a great way to make a WONDERFUL living providing thugs with a place to call home
Thats fine if you choose to make money off of section 8. But don't then turn around and call the people on it thugs. If you making money from it then you are no better than the people who use it. And I don't know how I paid for your bmw unless you meant this comment for someone else.

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