Since: Nov 10

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#21 Jun 9, 2011
dr zeus wrote:
<quoted text>take it away and they will have too! If there are jobs in 100 degree heat and an ably quallified people on unemployment to fill it give them a choice, take it or loose the check.
And you really think the government would even consider doing that? That will never happen unfortunately!
bored monitor

Athens, GA

#22 Jun 9, 2011
FED UP in DC wrote:
<quoted text>Good luck trying to get Americans to do manual labor for low wages! Employers will have to pay triple what they were paying before in wages. That means that the consumer will have to pay more! That's just common sense!
What would u know about common sense?

Since: Nov 10

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#23 Jun 9, 2011
bored monitor wrote:
<quoted text>
What would u know about common sense?
Apparently a hell of a lot more than most of the people here!
dr zeus

Duluth, GA

#24 Jun 10, 2011
FED UP in DC wrote:
<quoted text>And you really think the government would even consider doing that? That will never happen unfortunately!
duh; ofcourse not but it is what should happen.

Since: Jan 10

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#25 Jun 10, 2011
FED UP in DC wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently a hell of a lot more than most of the people here!
That wouldn't be too difficult...

Since: Jul 07

Douglasville

#26 Jun 10, 2011
FED UP in DC wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently school didn't do you any good either! Repond? Charcter? And the best one "your WRITTEN is horrible" LMFAO!!!!!!!
You are right, I did have a few mistakes in my reply. It was late and I did not have my glasses on, and I had worked all day and then did school work that night. Still no excuses.

Since: Jul 07

Douglasville

#27 Jun 10, 2011
FED UP in DC wrote:
<quoted text>Good luck trying to get Americans to do manual labor for low wages! Employers will have to pay triple what they were paying before in wages. That means that the consumer will have to pay more! That's just common sense!
you are right, employers will have to pay minimal wage now and contribute to the tax burden of all of us. Will we be the ones to have to pay for this, sure, but I'd rather know an American that is legal is working and not someone who is making very little contribution to the system that keeps us all afloat.
General Lee

Dallas, GA

#28 Jun 10, 2011
mary wrote:
is every one happy about the new law? About the mexican's moving out of Georgia, who is going to cut the grass, clean the hotels, and all the work that we hate doing! who is going to work the felds, pick tomatos,who is going to be our busboy when we go eat,? who is going to wash our dishes, not me! what about you. good buy to all our friend's from mexico,we are going to miss you and your resuant's.
I am happy about the law.
Linda

Cumming, GA

#29 Jun 10, 2011
We now know the answer to "Who will do the labor intensive work for low pay when we run the Mexicans out?" and the answer is NO ONE. No teenager is going to spend 12 hours a day in a field picking crops. No one is going to drive from Atlanta to the fields and work for 12 hours in the sun. We now have crops rotting in the fields in South Georgia and farmers losing money. It is just as easy for the legal immigrants to go to a more friendly agricultural area where their families won't be harrassed.

I am also concerned about the totally unChristian aspect of the law. The gospels give us an example of helping others as the Christian way to live based on the way Christ lived while on earth. He healed without respect for gender, race or birthplace. Most Americans are better than this law. Any law that makes it illegal to help someone find a place to live, illegal to give someone a ride for medical help, and illegal to help provide food for someone who is hungry is not based on Christian principles.
u r clueless

Athens, GA

#30 Jun 10, 2011
Linda wrote:
We now know the answer to "Who will do the labor intensive work for low pay when we run the Mexicans out?" and the answer is NO ONE. No teenager is going to spend 12 hours a day in a field picking crops. No one is going to drive from Atlanta to the fields and work for 12 hours in the sun. We now have crops rotting in the fields in South Georgia and farmers losing money. It is just as easy for the legal immigrants to go to a more friendly agricultural area where their families won't be harrassed.
I am also concerned about the totally unChristian aspect of the law. The gospels give us an example of helping others as the Christian way to live based on the way Christ lived while on earth. He healed without respect for gender, race or birthplace. Most Americans are better than this law. Any law that makes it illegal to help someone find a place to live, illegal to give someone a ride for medical help, and illegal to help provide food for someone who is hungry is not based on Christian principles.
R u really this dumb?
realistic dad

Douglasville, GA

#31 Jun 11, 2011
Linda wrote:
We now know the answer to "Who will do the labor intensive work for low pay when we run the Mexicans out?" and the answer is NO ONE. No teenager is going to spend 12 hours a day in a field picking crops. No one is going to drive from Atlanta to the fields and work for 12 hours in the sun. We now have crops rotting in the fields in South Georgia and farmers losing money. It is just as easy for the legal immigrants to go to a more friendly agricultural area where their families won't be harrassed.
I am also concerned about the totally unChristian aspect of the law. The gospels give us an example of helping others as the Christian way to live based on the way Christ lived while on earth. He healed without respect for gender, race or birthplace. Most Americans are better than this law. Any law that makes it illegal to help someone find a place to live, illegal to give someone a ride for medical help, and illegal to help provide food for someone who is hungry is not based on Christian principles.
Linda, if you have read any of my post I am sure you realize I am a very conservative person and, quite honestly I never expected to agree with you on anything. I guess I was wrong because we do have similar beliefs concerning the farm workers south Georgia is about to loose. I grew up in south Georgia working on relative's farms during the summer and experienced the change of culture during the mid '60's. There were always young people willing to work on the farms for very low wages, typically at this time for four to five dollars a day. The kids and young adults were willing to do this labor for a couple of reasons, either their families needed this money to survive or, in my case, because it was expected. Most of these jobs were very labor intensive because there was very little automated equipment to bring in the crops. As kids decided they really didn't need to work to bring in this money to supplement parents income, farming really changed. I am sure you will disagree with my next statement but here goes anyway...welfare started to produce a feeling of "we don't have to work this hard anymore." Harvesters were developed to pick tobacco, cotton, and corn but there are no harvesters than can determine if vegetables are ripe and ready to be picked. I have done all the above and I asure you picking tomatos is the hardest job I have ever done. During the late '60's crops being planted changed because vegetables were rotting in the fields. Crop selection is about to change again because farmes will not be able to find workers that will spend 10 hours a day bent over in 90 plus degree heat....there will be no vegetables grown in Georgia. See. we do agree on something.
General Lee

Irving, TX

#32 Jun 11, 2011
What part of "ILLEGAL" don't you understand?

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#33 Jun 11, 2011
I do not support giving a free ride to illegals under any circumstances. Work Visa with a beginning and an end; yes. Free ride and soaking up our resources; no.
Linda

Cumming, GA

#34 Jun 11, 2011
I also worked as a teenager picking crops, packing tomatoes ( 13-15 hour days sometimes) to earn money. Many middle class white kids did in those days. In my state, Mexicans, "southerners" (poor white southern people whom none of us were allowed to hang out with or date) and black workers worked the fields with middle class white kids. Middle class kids no longer do that kind of work, and the poor white southerners, and black farm workers do not travel the fruit/vegetable farm work cycle. We cut off our nose to spite our face when we make such harsh laws that do not even allow Christian help and charity for God's children. I would hate to be one of the legislators who voted yes on the law and get to St. Peter's Gate and hear the pronouncement --You have done it to the least of these - you have done it to ME. Christian living doesn't stop at the church door.

Since: Jul 07

Douglasville

#35 Jun 11, 2011
Linda wrote:
I also worked as a teenager picking crops, packing tomatoes ( 13-15 hour days sometimes) to earn money. Many middle class white kids did in those days. In my state, Mexicans, "southerners" (poor white southern people whom none of us were allowed to hang out with or date) and black workers worked the fields with middle class white kids. Middle class kids no longer do that kind of work, and the poor white southerners, and black farm workers do not travel the fruit/vegetable farm work cycle. We cut off our nose to spite our face when we make such harsh laws that do not even allow Christian help and charity for God's children. I would hate to be one of the legislators who voted yes on the law and get to St. Peter's Gate and hear the pronouncement --You have done it to the least of these - you have done it to ME. Christian living doesn't stop at the church door.
But ILLEAGL does
Longing

Hiram, GA

#36 Jun 11, 2011
" ... and all the work that we hate doing!... "
We don't hate doing this work, we just need to be paid a livable wage. I would love to work in the restaurants again. But I can't support my family on a few hundred a week. If I live like the illegals did (5-6 in a one bedroom) They would take my kids away from me.
miajoon

Douglasville, GA

#37 Jun 11, 2011
Linda wrote:
We now know the answer to "Who will do the labor intensive work for low pay when we run the Mexicans out?" and the answer is NO ONE. No teenager is going to spend 12 hours a day in a field picking crops. It is just as easy for the legal immigrants to go to a more friendly agricultural area where their families won't be harrassed..
I spent two weeks last summer at Yellowstone National Park on Business. I noted that most of the waitresses, cooks, cleaners and groundskeepers at the hotels and restaurants were from Asia, Eastern Europe, or Latin America. I would have thought there would be plenty of Americans willing to spend the summer washing dishes in this economy, especially since they provide a dorm room. But not so.

One of the big problems with our economy is that the available jobs do not match available skills or preferences. Americans either lack the skill and training to do the good jobs, or the willingness to do the menial ones.
Linda

Cumming, GA

#38 Jun 11, 2011
@mugsy --hiding slaves, teaching them to read, etc was illegal also. That law was changed. Some laws are just plain wrong and need to be changed to reflect better who we are as good, decent Americans.

When the law is wrong it takes people with backbone to say so and to choose to disobey. I can tell you right now that I WILL help people get medical help. I WILL help people who need food, I WILL help people get an education. My conscience would not let me do otherwise.
And I believe that there are a lot of good people in the U.S. who will do the right thing --maybe not the legal thing.
Linda

Cumming, GA

#39 Jun 11, 2011
@longing ---We are seeing more and more multi family housing units. People are losing their jobs, moving in with a brother, sister, other family member and the families double up. Teachers are telling about students who are living 2-3 families in an apartment/house. These are not illegals - just unemployed.
Linda

Cumming, GA

#40 Jun 11, 2011
@ clueless --are you not able to contribute to the conversation? Or is it just your style to throw insults?

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