Vermont votes for rights

Vermont votes for rights

There are 25 comments on the Berkshire Eagle story from Apr 9, 2009, titled Vermont votes for rights. In it, Berkshire Eagle reports that:

Nine years ago, Vermont became the first state to adopt civil unions for same-sex couples, an act that seemed radical at the time but inadequate after Massachusetts legalized gay marriage.

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I know- but not all

Tucson, AZ

#23 Apr 14, 2009
I am back to comment esp. to people who say "what's the big deal." I am ANGRY. I finished reading about the RAPE and MURDER of 8 year-old Sandra Cantu by a 28 year-old woman, who also was the mom of her playmate AND a Sunday school teacher. As the mom of an 8 year old girl, this breaks my heart. It breaks my heart when ANYTHING like this occurs to a little one. Then, I go and read where an 18 year-old student from Chandler, AZ (I live in neighboring GIlbert, AZ) was killed by the 20-something boyfriend of the 48 year-old woman with whom the deceased was having a sexual affair. This woman was his MATH TEACHER! And the 20-something boyfriend, it says, had also been this woman's student at one time. WTF?!?!? This is not news anymore. This stuff has been happening, is happening and will continue to happen because this country if F*****-up when it comes to all matters dealing with sex. Sex out of the context it was meant for is a true poison. How can it be denied? How has it made this country better? It has not! It has broken more lives in more ways. and Vermont is one F***-up place with a bunch of looney-bins in charge who want to essentially give children a pass to be sexually inappropriate, all in the name of self-esteem. "we don't want them to be termed sexual predators." they say.
God help this country. I pray or my country every day, multiple times a day, esp when stuff like this comes up.
I am SO ANGRY that other people, esp people who would defend sexual freedom, which ultimately does allow crap like this to occur, choose to be blind to this for whatever personal reason they have.
We shall reap in the country what we sow. It is happening.
Religion Kills

Averill Park, NY

#24 Apr 17, 2009
Chartockian wrote:
Barack Obama does not support gay marriage. Why no criticism of him by Gay rights groups.
It seems that politics makes stranger bedfellows than gay marriage.
We are....I was very loud prior to his election and have never supported him. Now that he can't even hire an effective management team, and allows his subordinates (Gates) to spout off against DADT, against stated admin policy tells me what I saw before, he is an ineffective manager.

Many of us are speaking out against his total lack of support for GLBT issues including marriage equality (please stop calling it gay marriage...that is like "pro life" it is a politically chosen name to create adversity...the term is marriage equality thank you.)

I don't know where you've been, but we are very much protesting Obama's lack of action on DADT, DOMA, ENDA and FIRING Gates!

I call the white house constantly and write letters and implore my friends to do the same. Not being a party supporter, I don't have much of a voice.
Abe

Northville, NY

#25 Apr 17, 2009
Religion Kills wrote:
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We are....I was very loud prior to his election and have never supported him. Now that he can't even hire an effective management team, and allows his subordinates (Gates) to spout off against DADT, against stated admin policy tells me what I saw before, he is an ineffective manager.
Many of us are speaking out against his total lack of support for GLBT issues including marriage equality (please stop calling it gay marriage...that is like "pro life" it is a politically chosen name to create adversity...the term is marriage equality thank you.)
I don't know where you've been, but we are very much protesting Obama's lack of action on DADT, DOMA, ENDA and FIRING Gates!
I call the white house constantly and write letters and implore my friends to do the same. Not being a party supporter, I don't have much of a voice.
Hey Boss, I am all for equality. I did not vote for Barack Obama strictly on his collectivist theories. I have many gay friends that do not want marriage, only equality under the law like everyone else. Why are the GayLesbianBiSexualTransgender radicals trying to force the American public to accept their way when the easier way would be to take every new step as a victory and just wait until America sees things they way the rest of the world sees your point? If you force it, it will not come.(I could have used a differnet word right?) Slow down and think. Remember where in the world you live.
NevadaSam

Springfield, MA

#26 Apr 17, 2009
Religion Kills wrote:
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Not right, I agree with your outrage over the unintended consequences of this ill thought through bill.
However that is not the issue. The issue is our obsession with sex and nudeness, stemming from our long history of puritanism and religiosity.
It is what caused the priestly abuse scandals (oh my, my son might be gay...send him to the priesthood!) and it is what creates the strange situation in our society when so many people are labelled sex offenders for urinating in public or doing something stupid in high school.
In Europe and other enlightened countries they do not see their bodies as evil "raw meat" as we do in our society and thus don't have these strange machinations we have.
Of course an 18 year old should not be able to send nude pictures of himself to a 13 year old. But should a 14 year old idiot kid be labelled "sex offendor" for life for doing something similar?
A rethinking of how we see nudity and the beauty of the human body in a more healthy light would be a big step towards solving these silly issues.
That darn "nudeness" obsession. I hate when that happens.
Religion Kills

Averill Park, NY

#27 Apr 18, 2009
Abe wrote:
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Hey Boss, I am all for equality. I did not vote for Barack Obama strictly on his collectivist theories. I have many gay friends that do not want marriage, only equality under the law like everyone else. Why are the GayLesbianBiSexualTransgender radicals trying to force the American public to accept their way when the easier way would be to take every new step as a victory and just wait until America sees things they way the rest of the world sees your point? If you force it, it will not come.(I could have used a differnet word right?) Slow down and think. Remember where in the world you live.
Only marriage equality will give equality under the law, as you say.

It really is simply a matter of interpreting our existing constitution the way it has in a few states already.

No need to slow down, civil rights should not be something to "get used to over time".

But I'm glad you have gay friends, I've yet to meet anyone not intent on gaining marriage equality.

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