Coal Power in Benhill County, where i...

Coal Power in Benhill County, where is the outrage?

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#1 Jun 6, 2010
It seems like the only people freaking out about the prospect of a Power Plant getting dropped in the middle of one of the few remaining pristine areas in Georgia is coming from everybody BUT the people its going to effect!

I live in the 50 mile red zone, which is the toxic circle of a Coal Burning Power Plant. Most of Coffee County is going to fall into this area which means we are going to be under the constant fall-out of the stacks. This is going to ruin South Georgia.

Heres a article I just read..

The Brantley County Commission has gone on record opposing plans to build a coal-fired power plant in Ben Hill County.

The commissioners aren't worried about the smoke. It's the mercury produced from coal combustion that could settle in the headwaters of the Satilla River and flow downstream through the middle of Brantley County.

During its regular meeting Tuesday night, the commission unanimously passed a resolution opposing the 850-megawatt plant proposed for the Fitzgerald area.

"We asked Ben Hill County to reconsider," Commissioner Mike Edgy said. "We don't need any more pollution in the Satilla River."

When coal is burned, mercury is emitted into the air and falls to the ground, often miles away from the plant, said John Carswell, acting executive director of the Satilla Riverkeeper organization.

That mercury is ingested by fish, making some species dangerous to eat, he said.

The Georgia Department of Natural Resources puts out an advisory on which species are safe to eat. From the Satilla, it advises that large flathead catfish not be consumed at all, and smaller ones only once a month because of a high mercury content.

Other species also are affected.

"My main concern is the Satilla," Edgy said. "It really worries me that they want to keep putting mercury into our river."

Carswell noted that, in some ways, Brantley County is on the cutting edge of the "green" revolution. Two new industries in the area will convert forest products to biofuels that can be used as an alternative to coal.

He suggests that Ben Hill consider a biofuel plant instead of one that uses coal for fuel, as does Edgy.

"We've asked them to use biomass to support our forestry industry," Edgy said. "It makes more sense than an old-fashioned coal-burning plant that pollutes our rivers and streams."

Power4Georgians, a consortium of electric industries, wants to build the Ben Hill plant.

A company spokesman has said that the proposed $2 billion dollar facility would create 1,500 construction jobs, 130 plant jobs and 120 other positions related to the coal plant in a county whose industrial base has been decimated in recent years.

But it makes better economic sense to go with a biofuel, Edgy said.

"Why import coal from Pennsylvania when you can use wood from Georgia?" he asked.

Former Satilla Riverkeeper Gordon Rogers said a coal-burning plant in Ben Hill County would have far-reaching implications, and would harm the river he currently oversees as the Flint Riverkeeper.

"This absolutely would affect the Flint," he said. "It will affect anything within 50 miles intensely and anything up to 100 miles moderately."

Edgy said he is encouraging commissioners from other counties in the area to come out against the plant, too.

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#2 Jun 6, 2010
Bellow is from Reuturs and explains why all this is happening. Next year a moratorium is expected to pass, so A Southern COmpnay is trying to get as many Plants on the books as possible.

Georgia bill proposes moratorium on new coal plants

HOUSTON
Wed Feb 4, 2009 1:23am GMTHOUSTON (Reuters)- Georgia legislators introduced a bill on Tuesday that, if passed, could limit utility use of certain Appalachian coal beginning in 2011 and place a moratorium on new coal-plant construction in the state.

Interest in coal-fired power plants, which produce about half the electricity consumed in the United States, surged when natural gas prices rose in 2002, but have come under attack from environmental groups.

Coal emits more carbon dioxide than any other fuel so public concern about greenhouse gas emissions and climate change has resulted in cancellations of dozens of coal plants by utilities in the past two years.

Two new coal plants are under development in Georgia and more coal plants are under construction in the U.S. than in the previous two decades.

House Bill 276 calls for utilities to eliminate the burning of Central Appalachian coal mined by "mountaintop removal" by mid-2016 and would suspend permits filed before July 2009 to build new coal-fired generation.

The bill drew a quick response from Power4Georgians, a coalition of 10 electric co-operatives that wants to build a $2 billion coal-fired plant in Washington County.

"A moratorium on new coal-fired power plants would only ensure that the cost of energy would increase substantially," the co-op group said in a statement.

Permit applications were filed in January 2008 to develop the 850-megawatt Washington County Power Station near Sandersville, Georgia, about 60 miles southwest of Augusta.

"We simply cannot forgo development of new clean-coal projects for the next five years and expect that we will then be able to catch up," the group said.

The Washington County station will burn a mix of pulverized low-sulfur coal from the Powder River Basin and Appalachian coal, the group said when announcing the project.

Privately held LS Power is also working to develop the 1,200-MW Longleaf coal plant in Early County, Georgia.

Currently, LS is appealing a state court's rejection of the air permit issued by the Georgia Department of Resources last year.

Georgia is also home to 10 coal-fired generating stations owned by Southern Co's unit Georgia Power, the state's largest utility. Georgia Power uses coal to produce about 75 percent of power produced in the state.

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#3 Jun 6, 2010
Legal Challenges Filed to Stop Georgia's Coal Rush

Environmental groups filed petitions Monday for hearings challenging permits for two major proposed coal-fired power plants in Georgia.

Attorneys from GreenLaw and the Southern Environmental Law Center (SELC), acting on behalf of seven citizens’ groups, are fighting the proposed plants with claims against the water and air pollution permits proposed for Plant Washington, to be built in Sandersville, and against the air pollution permit for Longleaf Energy Station, to be built in Early County.

The groups said they are acting in response to an "unprecedented wave" of permits issued by the state Environmental Protection Division (EPD) in April.

EPD issued these permits at a time when citizens across the nation are actively questioning the safety, financial wisdom and energy efficiency of generating electric power from burning pulverized coal. Plans to construct coal-burning plants in North Carolina, South Carolina, Mississippi, and Louisiana have all recently been canceled.

"Georgia is moving backward with the issuance of permits for two more coal plants that will bring additional air and water pollution to the state," GreenLaw said in a release.

Longleaf, which is being contested by Friends of the Chattahoochee and the Sierra Club of Georgia, with representation solely from GreenLaw, is a project of New Jersey-based LS Power.

In the 1200 megawatt (MW) Longleaf permit, EPD classifies Longleaf as a minor source of pollution, while the other proposed coal-fired plant, the 850 MW Plant Washington (in a permit issued the day before), is classified as a major source. Listing Longleaf as a minor source allows the power plant to avoid critical requirements that would ensure that the Plant operated in compliance with the law, GreenLaw said, adding that EPD also failed to allow the public to comment on the decision.

EPD also granted Longleaf an extension on when it must begin construction. This extension will allow the Plant to be built with outdated technology, GreenLaw attorneys said. They are asking that EPD ensure that the permit is up-to-date.

Plant Washington is being contested by the Fall-line Alliance for a Clean Environment (FACE) and Sierra Club’s Georgia Chapter, as well as Altamaha Riverkeeper (for the water permit only), and Southern Alliance for Clean Energy (SACE) and Ogeechee Riverkeeper (both organizations for the air permit only). The plant is a project of Power4Georgians, a company composed of Cobb EMC and four other EMCs.

The environmental groups claim the Plant Washington air permit fails to set safe limits on harmful air pollutants that would be emitted by Plant Washington, including sulfuric acid mist and particulate matter. Particulate matter is linked to respiratory illnesses, heart disease and even premature death.

Similarly, the state water withdrawal permit fails to set necessary limits on the amount of water the plant can take from the Oconee River for use at a proposed plant located in the Ogeechee River watershed. Without adequate limits, communities such as Dublin, area farms and other downstream users along the Oconee River could be left without sufficient water resources.

In addition, the state water discharge permit fails to limit the temperature of heated wastewater discharged by the proposed plant into the Oconee River, changing the river’s ecology, depleting available oxygen in its waters, and harming fish and other wildlife that depend on the river system.

Georgia already has 10 coal-fired power plants, one of which, just north of Macon, is Plant Scherer, often cited as the most polluting coal-fired plant in the nation. These plants would be the eleventh and twelfth to pollute Georgia’s air and waterways. The EPD has seven days to send the cases to the Office of State Administrative Hearings, where they will be assigned to administrative law judges. Court dates are expected later this summer.
pops

Flowery Branch, GA

#4 Jun 6, 2010
I would like them to dam up the river produce power that way.

Since: May 08

Athens,ga.

#5 Jun 6, 2010
what we need is fast track nuclear power plants.They could put triple the crews on building it and build it in half the time.

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#6 Jun 6, 2010
Bigsexy52 wrote:
what we need is fast track nuclear power plants.They could put triple the crews on building it and build it in half the time.
You are right. The Union is pushing for these Power Plants because the Union has been hurting and Longleaf is pushing because the price of Coal has collapsed, giving them new cash reserves to dump into more of these Coal Burning wrecks. I am behind Nuclear Power 100%, as a short term solution, but this comes down to money. They can build Coal Plants cheap and quick.

THomas Edison once said "Coal is a short term solution to a longterm problem." Nearly One Hundred and thirty years later, all we have managed to accomplish is "building massive Coal Burning Power Stations really quick!". Its really really sad, and it goes to show how wasted human ingenuity has been, especially here in America, where Old Money rules.

Since: May 08

Athens,ga.

#7 Jun 6, 2010
I thought they were gonna clean up the coal plants to burn more efficiently if that would happen maybe it would be worth it .

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#8 Jun 6, 2010
Bigsexy52 wrote:
I thought they were gonna clean up the coal plants to burn more efficiently if that would happen maybe it would be worth it .
Yeah, up until last year that was a big sales pitch for the Co-Opts and A Southern Company. That was until it came to light the promise of clean-coal was a lie and the technology in the scale required doesnt exist. It was just pushed in mainstream media to sell the public on the idea that "Coal has a clean future that doesnt kill people and destroy the envirnment".

They say the technology for com-scale clean Coal is years away, but even if it happens, only something like 20 or 30% of the Nations Coal Burners will even be able to use the technology because most, even some of the new Plants are being put together with outdated technology. Its truely incredible.

Not sure if you remember or heard about it but they tried to build a big Power PLant West of Albany. It was being sold as a clean-coal Power plant up until a Judge reviewing the case realized that what the public was being told about it was a sham. The Plant was abandoned after the Court ruled against it. Same thing happened in Taylor County Florida were my Dad lives. That Plant was nearly completed when construction was terminated.

But unlike Florida, most of the Plants they are trying to build in Georgia are getting built which is such a shame. If people don't start getting angry, we are going to have one of the most polluting power plants in the state, right next door.

Since: May 08

Athens,ga.

#9 Jun 6, 2010
You know mentality behind these things is, well as long as they build it somewhere else its OK . Like my politician is OK but yours stinks .

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#10 Jun 8, 2010
Bigsexy52 wrote:
You know mentality behind these things is, well as long as they build it somewhere else its OK . Like my politician is OK but yours stinks .
We arent talking about a Prison though, we talking about something that can effect peoples Health, hundreds of miles away. I'm not ok with them moving the Plant to another County, like they've been doing. We dont want anymore Coal Plants in Georgia, period.
mommyin fitz

Moultrie, GA

#11 Jun 8, 2010
There is a meeting tonight at the Courthouse Annex in Fitz at 6:30. I heard the coal plant will be first on the agenda. Come let everyone hear your opinions.

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#12 Jun 8, 2010
mommyin fitz wrote:
There is a meeting tonight at the Courthouse Annex in Fitz at 6:30. I heard the coal plant will be first on the agenda. Come let everyone hear your opinions.
THANK YOU for the heads up!

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#13 Jun 12, 2010
Did anybody make it to the meeting in Benhill on the 8th?
BoatdockFSU

Tallahassee, FL

#14 Jun 14, 2010
David_Banner,

I am a graduate student working on an environmental communication research paper focused on the proposed Plant Ben Hill and its (lack of) media coverage. Your forum caught my attention.
The title of your forum (Coal Power in Ben Hill County, Where is the outrage?) is painstakingly great. I am asking for permission to use that in my research paper. I have agreed to provide all my findings and work to the Fitzgerald group against the coal-fired plant for their assistance.

I would appreciate your permission to use your 'wording'.

Thank you.
Cooter

Kittanning, PA

#15 Jun 14, 2010
Nothing wrong with coal. Lime scrubbing technology works, and emissions are little. It brings jobs, and coal is abundant. Quit bitching.

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#16 Jun 14, 2010
BoatdockFSU wrote:
David_Banner,
I am a graduate student working on an environmental communication research paper focused on the proposed Plant Ben Hill and its (lack of) media coverage. Your forum caught my attention.
The title of your forum (Coal Power in Ben Hill County, Where is the outrage?) is painstakingly great. I am asking for permission to use that in my research paper. I have agreed to provide all my findings and work to the Fitzgerald group against the coal-fired plant for their assistance.
I would appreciate your permission to use your 'wording'.
Thank you.
Indeed, whatever you need, its yours.

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#17 Jun 14, 2010
Cooter wrote:
Nothing wrong with coal. Lime scrubbing technology works, and emissions are little. It brings jobs, and coal is abundant. Quit bitching.
Haha, yeah, keep fooling yourself. If Lime tech worked, North Georgia wouldnt be the toxic waste dump that it is. Emissions are little, who do you work for, Georgia Power? The Plant in Ben Hill is going to likely produce upwards to 7 MILLION Tons of CO2 each year in, thats in BEN HILL COUNTY. Thats not a "little bit" of emissions bro.

As for Coal being abundant, thats like saying Oil is abundant. The Coal Companies are ravaging the North, from Strip mining to deep mining, Coal production is "abundant" right now because there are more Companies Mining. Coal is on a clock and it makes little sense the develope a National power grid based on NON RENEWABLE ENERGY but thats exactly what they're trying to do. Why? Because its about quick and easy money. If you think for a second its about giving Americans "jobs" then you are a fool. Power4Georgians didnt come to Ben Hill because they care, they came because they believe Ben Hill to be desperate. It's a deal with the Devil.

carma.org and www.sierraclub.org/environmentallaw/coal/plan... have all the stats.
Strong Coffee

Alexandria, VA

#18 Jun 14, 2010
Nuclear power is the cleanest and the safest!

Strong Coffee

Since: May 08

Athens,ga.

#19 Jun 14, 2010
A oxygen/hydrogen electric plant would be the cheapest and safest way to go. The technology is there it just is not been invested in.
WaitAminute

Flowery Branch, GA

#20 Jun 14, 2010
David_Banner wrote:
<quoted text>
Haha, yeah, keep fooling yourself. If Lime tech worked, North Georgia wouldnt be the toxic waste dump that it is. Emissions are little, who do you work for, Georgia Power? The Plant in Ben Hill is going to likely produce upwards to 7 MILLION Tons of CO2 each year in, thats in BEN HILL COUNTY. Thats not a "little bit" of emissions bro.
As for Coal being abundant, thats like saying Oil is abundant. The Coal Companies are ravaging the North, from Strip mining to deep mining, Coal production is "abundant" right now because there are more Companies Mining. Coal is on a clock and it makes little sense the develope a National power grid based on NON RENEWABLE ENERGY but thats exactly what they're trying to do. Why? Because its about quick and easy money. If you think for a second its about giving Americans "jobs" then you are a fool. Power4Georgians didnt come to Ben Hill because they care, they came because they believe Ben Hill to be desperate. It's a deal with the Devil.
carma.org and www.sierraclub.org/environmentallaw/coal/plan... have all the stats.
Amen!

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