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May 9, 2010
 
My kids go to Dorton, as did I when I was young, and it is an OK school but there are many things they could work on. For one they need to watch the kids better. I know of alot of kids that are bullied everyday and the teachers dont so anything. Now keep in mind that I dont mean every teacher, but most dont care. Hasnt anyone learned yet that the school shootings that happened years ago came from children being bullied and no one doing anything.I know they say "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me", but that isnt true for young children. The words do hurt. Right now is when they devolope their self esteem and being bullied everyday doesnt help them. I know kids will be kids, but adults that are being paid to teach and watch kids should teach them that what they say can hurt people.
And also they have their picks that they treat better. Wether you know the parents or they come from money doesnt make that child better than a less fortunate child. My children are one of the richer ones but I still dont like the way the poorer kids are treated. No matter what they wear or who their parents are they should be treated the same. I used to think so much of Randy Burke when he was a teacher but now, not so much. I heard a few years ago a 13 yr old girl smacked a 8 year old in the face and they didnt do anything cause the 13 yr old was from a good family and on the honor roll and the 8 yr old isnt. How could he allow such a thing to go on?
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May 10, 2010
 
I can agree with some of the things you are saying but not entirely all of it. Yes, bullying goes on at the school as it does everywhere. Do I agree with it, No. Teachers have a hard job and are very underpaid for all they do. My child also attends Dorton and I have had a few upsets but I think overall the staff do alot for the safety of those children. I don't know anything about the child getting smacked that you mentioned but I just can't see Mr. Burke making a differnce in that situation due to social status. My child comes from a middle class family and we haven't ever been treated differently due to our financial situation. I also attended Dorton all my life and proudly graduated from there so as far as the safety of the children go, I am comfortable with that part of the staff. I always like to read comments from concerned parents so I don't feel as if I am the only one sometimes. Thank you for this post and I hope I didn't offend you in anyway as that was not my intentions.
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May 22, 2010
 
i agree
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May 22, 2010
 
which post do you agree with? I agree with the 1st completley. That school doesnt treat all the children fairly. Its all about who their parents are. And I know for a fact that an older child did smack a 7 year old. Why dont you ask Mr. Burke? He will tell you it happened. Then ask him why he didnt s anything. But I can answer that for you, becayse the 12 yr old is on the olley ball team and "has never been in trounble before" and comes froma a good family. The 7 yr old has a good family but the father is a well known drug dealer and user in the area. He is in prision now. Biut not only is he being punished, so are his children. All of you people turn your noses up to these kids that have a parent that isnt of good character, and thats not right. Its not the childs fault whay they do. And I know the little girls mother and she is a good woman. She has never been in any type of trouble and is raising her 3 kids on her own. She works hard to support her kids and never once did she get drug money from her ex before you try to say she did. I know that he didnt ever pay her child support. But yet you people want to defend Mr, Burke when he judged a child because of the way their father is, even though she has a good mother. He makes me sick and needs to change the way he treats them kids down at the school. I wont post the name of the family of either girls, but just because I dont know if they would want me to. But I know the mother is still hurt by the actions of the school and the child cries all the time and doesnt want to go to school because she is treated differently and doesnt know why.
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Pikeville, KY

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May 22, 2010
 
and to patient parent- it wasnt because the 7 yr old was poor, she isnt...its because her father is a well known drug dealer and theif and is in prision for it now. That isnt the fault of the child or the mother. I know she left him years before he started doing what he did. But I know she is still judged to this day for the actions of him. Even though she is nothing like him. I hear the way people talk about her around her and they just dont know her. And do you know why they dont know her? She is either at work or with her kids. She doesnt go out and party or socialize. And the rare school functions she goes to she has told me made her feel uncomftorable. She knows what people say about her and her children and it hurts them. They dont bother anyone but yet they are judged by the actions of a man that hasnt been in their lifes in years..I wish I could tell you their names, then you could understand. But I wont do that with out her permission. Just ask Mr. Burke about it. Lets see if he can even admit it happened, I do know the mother of the youngest called the school board and talked to a lawyer but had to let it go because she couldnt afford it. And if he denies it..I know her temper..she will let the world know it is the truth.
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May 23, 2010
 
It's not the teachers responsibility to teach the kids respect for each other that should be the parents job. =]
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May 23, 2010
 
You are right, it is the reponsibility of the parnet to teach the kids respect. But it is also the responsibility of the school to make the kids feel and be safe at school. They can make sure the kids behave the way they are supposed to at school and not be bullies or pick on children that are younger than them. I also heard of the smacking incident. I dont know the younger kids parents but I do the older one, she does get by with alot because she is on the honor roll and volley ball team. Its not right. She should have been punished in some way for smacking a little kid. Dorton should be ashamed for allowing it to happen and for not punishing the older girl. I hope the younger one transfered out of Dorton.
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May 23, 2010
 
I believe you are talking about my child, she is the younger one. Yes, it did happen. No, the older girl wasnt punished because Mr. Burke told me himself that she was a good girl and had never been in trouble before. Even though my daughter was 7 at the time and the other girl was 13. Then when I told him I would contact the school board he said he would just suspend both kids because my daughter does have a tendancy to act up and the older girl lied and said that my daughter kicked her. But there were alot of kids there that saw it and said that my daughter didnt do anything but say something smart to the older girl. But I guess in Mr. Burkes eyes its ok for an older child to hit a younger child if the older one has "never been in any trouble before". But please, dont talk about this anymore..my daughter is already treated unfairly enough at school..she doesnt need it any worse. And if Jenkins wasnt such a crappy school she would have been transfered the day Mr. Burke said what he did to me.
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May 23, 2010
 
I am family of the younger child, and she is that a child. And as for a child hitting one that is much younger than the other, she should have been punished. Mr. Burke said the child had never been in trouble, Well what does he call it when she hit the little girl? Was that not her being in trouble, yes it was. she has probably done other things that were never taken care of by him, and as for the younger child she is a good child and all kids do things that they are not suppose to,but like I said she is a child. And just because someone comes from a family that has a lot of money or they come from one that doesn't, should not make them any different than the other. The staff at the school have always made a difference in kids, one that has a lot of money and one that don't. Not only about money, but if you have one child that has been in trouble they automatically treat the rest of the family the same as they did the one that got in trouble a lot, Even if the child never causes a problem and is an honor roll child. And as for them being underpaid, well i think they are not, look at people that work in a coal mines now they are actually getting underpaid.The teachers at Dorton do have their picks because of the families either having money or they know them well. That's just my opinion, and i to went to Dorton all my years in school, it is the same now as it was then.
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May 23, 2010
 

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well when my kids went there the social workers were at my house every other day and my kkids went to school dressed just as nice as any other child . ME NOR THERE FATHER HAVE NEVER been into any trouble. YOU WANNA KNOW WHY THEY GOT CALLED MY LITTLE GIRL HAS ADHD THEY DIDNT WANT TO TAKE THE TIME OUT FOR HER INSTEAD THEY WANTED TO POINT FINGERS AND TRY TO MAKE IT SO HARD ON US THAT WE WOULD TAKE HER OUT OF THE SCHOOL. ITS OK LITTLE HITLER CAN HAVE HIS SCHOOL. BURK MADE HIS BRAGS ABOUT CALLING SOCIAL WORKERS ON ANOTHER GIRL 17 TIMES IN ONE MONTH . HOW CAN PEOPLE GET BY WITH THIS THEM KINDA PEOPLE BELONG IN HELL WITH THE DEVIL AND HITLER
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mother of three wrote:
My kids go to Dorton, as did I when I was young, and it is an OK school but there are many things they could work on. For one they need to watch the kids better. I know of alot of kids that are bullied everyday and the teachers dont so anything. Now keep in mind that I dont mean every teacher, but most dont care. Hasnt anyone learned yet that the school shootings that happened years ago came from children being bullied and no one doing anything.I know they say "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me", but that isnt true for young children. The words do hurt. Right now is when they devolope their self esteem and being bullied everyday doesnt help them. I know kids will be kids, but adults that are being paid to teach and watch kids should teach them that what they say can hurt people.
And also they have their picks that they treat better. Wether you know the parents or they come from money doesnt make that child better than a less fortunate child. My children are one of the richer ones but I still dont like the way the poorer kids are treated. No matter what they wear or who their parents are they should be treated the same. I used to think so much of Randy Burke when he was a teacher but now, not so much. I heard a few years ago a 13 yr old girl smacked a 8 year old in the face and they didnt do anything cause the 13 yr old was from a good family and on the honor roll and the 8 yr old isnt. How could he allow such a thing to go on?
UMM HUNNY ANY SCHOOL YOU GO TO ANT GONNA BE THE BEST YOU JUST NEED TO GET A LIFE!!!! NOBODYS PERFECT AND I GO TO THIS SCHOOL AND I LOVE IT! I HAVE WENT THERE FOR 9 YEARS AND IT IS A GOOD SMALL TOWN SCHOOL! SO SHUT THE HELL UP!:D
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May 24, 2010
 

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It's not the teachers responsibility to teach the kids respect for each other that should be the parents job.=]
AMEN SISTER OR BROTHER DONT BLAME THE SCHOOL FOR YOUR OWN "BAD PARENTING"
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I think there are a couple of issues that the school could work on. I know for a fact that the punishments that are handed down are not fair in most cases. Your childs punishment all depends on who you are. I also think that they need to put a stop to the bullying not only by the students but the bullying by the teachers as well. There are several teachers that like to try and bully the kids. That is more devestating to a child then having another child bully them. I also think they need to start helping the kids that need a bit of extra help and putting them in the extra programs that they need rather then scratching one off the list because they are not from money or as from as much money as they would like for them to be just to put a teachers child on the list in their place. Those are my thoughts and opinions on this matter. Those of you who are saying don't blame the school for you own bad parenting and saying that respect starts at home and all that bullsh*t. From my own personal experience its hard to teach your child at home the way they should act when other people don't teach theirs any better. Its also hard for a child to respect people that don't respect them. Respect is a 2 way street. I tell my kids all the time that they are to treat people the way they want to be treated. I also have to watch my children come home with broken hearts when they are trying to be nice and get treated like crap by spoiled brat kids that aren't taught to act any better and aren't taught how to treat people.
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May 24, 2010
 
WHAT THE HELL IS WITH YOU wrote:
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UMM HUNNY ANY SCHOOL YOU GO TO ANT GONNA BE THE BEST YOU JUST NEED TO GET A LIFE!!!! NOBODYS PERFECT AND I GO TO THIS SCHOOL AND I LOVE IT! I HAVE WENT THERE FOR 9 YEARS AND IT IS A GOOD SMALL TOWN SCHOOL! SO SHUT THE HELL UP!:D
Honey I also went there when I was younger so I know exactally how it is. And Mr Burke was my teacher in high school. I understand that they arent going to be the best, but they should strive to be. I do have a life..my children are my life. Im not going to be rude to you because you are a young child but I wonder if your parents know what kind of language you are using on here. And do they know you get on Topix? I would NEVER allow my child to get on this site. Maybe your mom and dad didnt teach you respect since you are on here telling me to get a life because I am upset about the disregard the school has for the saftey of my children and you telling me to "shut the H*** up". Thats not noce language for a child and MY KIDS do not talk that way. So I guess I am doing my job right. And BTW- if I knew who you were I would let your parents know that you are talking like this on here.

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May 25, 2010
 
It is the responsibility of the employees of the school to teach the children respect and good values. Even if the parent isnt teaching the kids the proper way to act the teachers should do so. And I dont think the mother of the younger child is at fault at all. Why is it her fault or the childs fault that a 13 year old girl hit her? Dorton needs to work on their staff and evaluate them to ensure they are doing their job properly. Not all of the staff is bad, but the ones that are..they are really bad.

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the schools must be teaching something right, because business is booming in Dorton.
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May 27, 2010
 
First of all, I would like to say that if a younger child was smacked, that is not okay, by no means. The older child definitely should have been punished. This incident must have been kept very quiet because I have been an active v-ball mom for several years and I haven't ever heard anyone speak of this. But I can assure those that think it went unpunished due to the older girl being on the v-ball team, you are wrong. It may have been due to who her parents were or something of that nature but not because of the v-ball team. I am sorry this happened to you and I hope this incident does not reflect on all girls on that team. My daughter has been punished for acts way less severe than this. She has stayed in break and wrote more school rules than most people would ever care to read. I would like to think that if our v-ball coach was made aware of this incident she may have suspended this girl from a few games or imposed some kind of punishment on her. Again, I am sorry this happened and I hope this doesn't reflect on all the girls on the team. We have some very nice young ladies on there and I just wish more girls would come out and play. It is a very fun and rewarding sport for them.
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May 27, 2010
 
Yes it did happen and Mr Burke did keep it quiet. I dont blame the volley ball coach at all because I know they didnt know it happend. It happened while the children were waiting for the buses to come and take them home. When I called the school and spoke to Mr. Burke he said right off the bat that the older child was an honor roll student and on the volley ball team and had never been in any trouble before. As if that made me think well ok, shes a good kid who cares if she smacked my baby. I think the real reason she didnt get punished is because he knows her parents and likes them. I know he knows my ex husband and hates him, but he shouldnt hold that against our children. They are great kids.The only person I blame is Mr. Burke, he is the only one to blame. He was the adult that dealt with this incident, if you can call talking to the girl in his office and telling her not to do it again is dealing with it. I dont even think he made her parents aware of what she had done. I dont blame any teacher there because they werent around when it happened. Mr. Burke was, 3 children ran and told him right when it happened and he ignored them. I didnt know about it until my kids got off of the bus both crying because the older girl hurt one of them and my other daughter is very sensitive and doesnt like violence or to see her sister get hurt.
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May 27, 2010
 
skeeter_girl wrote:
It is the responsibility of the employees of the school to teach the children respect and good values. Even if the parent isnt teaching the kids the proper way to act the teachers should do so. And I dont think the mother of the younger child is at fault at all. Why is it her fault or the childs fault that a 13 year old girl hit her? Dorton needs to work on their staff and evaluate them to ensure they are doing their job properly. Not all of the staff is bad, but the ones that are..they are really bad.
To me it is always and will always be the parents responsibility to teach their children respect and good values.

I do agree that you have your good and bad teachers at Dorton. Unfortuntely there are more bad then good. My kids went there for years. I thank GOD that they are now in Valley and I never have to deal with that place or those people again.
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May 27, 2010
 
The bad ones are mostly jr. high teachers. Most of the lower grade teachers really care about kids and are there for them. Only a very few of the jr. high have a heart for kids. There is one or two that do. Kids get no help when they ask, they stay in even with Dr. excuses, the kids grade their papers instead of the teacher, they write paragraphs instead of sentences for doing something wrong. I agree with the post above. I couldn't wait for my kids to get out of there. Those teachers Gets the school a bad rap.

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