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Cost too high for Pennsylvania to add front license plates

There are 23 comments on the The Morning Call story from Feb 13, 2009, titled Cost too high for Pennsylvania to add front license plates. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Q: With increased use of video cameras for traffic monitoring and road surveillance, one can envision instances where being able to identify a car from the front, via one of these cameras, might benefit public ...

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“This just in”

Since: Apr 07

Originally Queens NY

#1 Feb 13, 2009
What of many vehicles that even lack front plate mounting brackets? Like one of mine!

Let this idea go.
Professor Cheops

United States

#2 Feb 13, 2009
Give us all RFID implants in our skulls too. That might benefit public safety as well.
no front plates

Ambler, PA

#3 Feb 13, 2009
it's too late to do a front plate law in pa. how many of those 11.2 million registered vehicles are lacking front plate bracketry, or even mounting holes?

30 years ago when vehicles actually had bumpers this might not have been a big deal, but with all the urethane bumper covers on vehicles now, you would need to buy mounting brackets from the dealers, and potentially drill holes in the front of cars, etc.

For cars older than 10 years, the dealerships may not even stock those parts, so those people would need to scour eBay or find aftermarket parts or build custom bracketry.

no thanks.

if there are going to be any license plate changes done, build EZ-pass into the plates itself. it would make life easier for everyone on toll roads, and the police could be equipped with scanners to scan plates instead of having to type them in. a metal stamped plate is like 1930's technology.
Dave H

Lewisville, PA

#4 Feb 13, 2009
If Pennsylvania required a front plate where would people put their Eagles or NASCAR plate? The state would lose sales tax because nobody would buy them anymore.
Allen

United States

#5 Feb 13, 2009
It's amazing that there are people out there just asking the government for more control, bureaucracy, and added expense.
Unhappy in Lehigh

Newtown Square, PA

#6 Feb 13, 2009
I'm surprised the bureaucrats haven't considered passing the additional costs along to the "consumer"... There's got to be at least one of those money grubbers who thought about jacking up the annual registration a few bucks in the name of "it needed to cover the dual-plate initiative" (knowing full well that any fixed-annual increase would cover the cost of the new plates in the first year, then stuff an extra few million in the coffers each year after that...
Unhappy in Lehigh

Newtown Square, PA

#7 Feb 13, 2009
Dave H wrote:
If Pennsylvania required a front plate where would people put their Eagles or NASCAR plate? The state would lose sales tax because nobody would buy them anymore.
No they won't--I've seen "front platers" that find ways to mount them (e.g. strapped to the grill).

Crap--if they ever do this in PA, the phase "oh, it was a front-plater... now I understand why he can't drive" will be meaningless...

Since: Feb 07

Weatherly, PA

#8 Feb 13, 2009
Doing this would just be an excuse to make vehicles more easy to identify in speed camera and red light camera locations. Hopefully they leave well enough alone.

Also think about the gas mileage reduction due to the front plate, when multiplied over millions of cars in PA.
Captain Lovestar

Washington, DC

#9 Feb 13, 2009
Dave H wrote:
If Pennsylvania required a front plate where would people put their Eagles or NASCAR plate? The state would lose sales tax because nobody would buy them anymore.
LOL. Don't forget the air brushed names, and I love my retard dog plates.
Big Blue Wrecking Crew

Keyport, NJ

#10 Feb 13, 2009
Dave H wrote:
If Pennsylvania required a front plate where would people put their Eagles or NASCAR plate? The state would lose sales tax because nobody would buy them anymore.
That would be the only reason I would support the front plate requirement. Nobody should be allowed to put Eagles or NASCAR plates on their cars in the first place. Why would someone want to put their IQ right on the front of their car for everyone to see? If you are an Eagle or NASCAR fan you should keep that to yourself and see if there is some help for the sickness.
carelessfills

United States

#11 Feb 13, 2009
When we play the licence plate game, it's particularily helpful that cars have front plates, both on the interstates and even more so on two lane roads.
Big Blue Wrecking Crew

Keyport, NJ

#12 Feb 13, 2009
That might not seem like much in light of PennDOT's $6 billion annual.

Am I reading this correctly? 6 billion doolars a year? Where does it go? Pennsylvania, in a resent study had some of the worst bridges in the country and the highways are more like back roads. Pot holes everywhere. They hardly ever clear the roads when it snows.
Sound Reasoning

San Jose, CA

#13 Feb 13, 2009
Charlie on the PA Tpk wrote:
What of many vehicles that even lack front plate mounting brackets? Like one of mine!
Check your trunk. All cars come with one, but in PA, the dealers typically just leave it in the trunk (if the car isn't being sold to NJ customer).

If it isn't in your trunk, then somebody has it.
Sound Reasoning

San Jose, CA

#14 Feb 13, 2009
Big Blue Wrecking Crew wrote:
Nobody should be allowed to put Eagles or NASCAR plates on their cars in the first place.
Nobody should be allowed to put a "real" plate from another state on the front of their PA registered car.

I can't you how many times I see a car with a NJ plate (or a TX plate for that matter) on the front of their car, only to later see a PA plate on the rear.

While PA cops might not do anything, I am surprised that NJ don't do something.
Jeez O Wiz

Allentown, PA

#15 Feb 13, 2009
What the heck for? You can't catch a speeder from the front and the cops will no go after anything else because there is no money in it.
West End Resident

Allentown, PA

#16 Feb 13, 2009
Unhappy in Lehigh wrote:
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[snip] Crap--if they ever do this in PA, the phase "oh, it was a front-plater*... now I understand why he can't drive" will be meaningless...
* Meaning from NY, NJ, VA, MD, etc. Good point !
West End Resident

Allentown, PA

#17 Feb 13, 2009
Big Blue Wrecking Crew wrote:
<quoted text>
[snip] Nobody should be allowed to put Eagles or NASCAR plates on their cars in the first place. Why would someone want to put their IQ right on the front of their car for everyone to see? If you are an Eagle or NASCAR fan you should keep that to yourself and see if there is some help for the sickness.
ROF,LMAO ! Because that serves as a warning to the rest of us to see them coming !
West End Resident

Allentown, PA

#18 Feb 13, 2009
Let's save the Road Warrior, his editor(s)- if any, the printers, and ourselves some time, and start a list of all the alleged reasons and excuses that PennDOT can't do something useful with itself. In the future, all they need to do is refer to "Excuse # X", instead of having to invent, explain, type and print a specious one. Here goes:

1. We're not required to.
2. We don't do that here.
3. Nobody else does that.
4. It's too new for us to know if it will work.
5. That's been around so long that we know it won't work.
6. It doesn't work anyway.
7. We used to do that, but now we do something else instead.
8. We had that, but it broke, and nobody fixed it.
9. We don't have the money.
10. We need more money.
11. We spent the money on something else.

You know, I thought this was going to be a lot harder than it was. Can you add something to this list ? Thanks !!!
John-27

Long Beach, CA

#19 Feb 13, 2009
Oh, come on...

12. It wasn't my idea.
13. We'd have to get permission from (fill in appropriate authority)
14. Studies have shown that...
15. It's a great idea! Let's appoint a blue ribbon commission to study the concept's feasibility in preparation for a 2015 implementation.
16. This was already in the long-range PennDOT plan - check Appendix II, page II-49.
carelessfills

United States

#20 Feb 13, 2009
I hate that too, when playing th licence plate game. Half the Alaska plates I've seen in the front usually aren't. But unusually, I've seen at least ten real Alaskas in my travels over the last year, all east of the mississippi, including three differnt ones (including one repeatedly) in the last month.
Sound Reasoning wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody should be allowed to put a "real" plate from another state on the front of their PA registered car.
I can't you how many times I see a car with a NJ plate (or a TX plate for that matter) on the front of their car, only to later see a PA plate on the rear.
While PA cops might not do anything, I am surprised that NJ don't do something.

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