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Lost in the Sixties

Bensenville, IL

#317 Oct 13, 2010
walter wags wrote:
I've been gone for a long time. why have all these place closed?
Because the Section 8's moved out south after they tore the projects down in the city. People started moving out of Roseland, Altgeld Gardens...the riff raff, get it? Everything is gone Bummie's, Fin & Feather, Garfalo's, Simnick's Amoco, Frosty Hut, Felix's, Westerfield's you name it someone can vouch for it to be gone. The only thing that looks the same is the IC stations, Riverdale Park, Ivanhoe area. What a shame!

Since: Dec 09

Lowell, IN

#318 Oct 20, 2010
I have memories of going to the Model Foods on Sibley and eating at the cafateria there , also playing there arcade games. Never having to lock up my bicycle. Then we used to ride the trails along the river on the south side of sibley "what fun we had!". Ice skating at Town and Country Park playing ball there in the summer. Probably the worst thing for me was being transported to Thornton H.S. when Thornridge was closer "what were they thinking"?
stew pidaso

Schaumburg, IL

#319 Oct 21, 2010
Booker T wrote:
<quoted text> Man I can't remember any pizza place on 144th Indiana off hand you got me scratching my head.
prolly, giovanni's
Mahoney Home

Springfield, IL

#320 Oct 21, 2010
old dolton dude wrote:
I have memories of going to the Model Foods on Sibley and eating at the cafateria there , also playing there arcade games. Never having to lock up my bicycle. Then we used to ride the trails along the river on the south side of sibley "what fun we had!". Ice skating at Town and Country Park playing ball there in the summer. Probably the worst thing for me was being transported to Thornton H.S. when Thornridge was closer "what were they thinking"?
They had that bakery at Model Foods with the disgusting loooking "display cakes" that looked to be a million years old. Did you ever run across the roof there MB? McDonalds was another good hangout around there. There weren't a ton of places to go around there, but downtown Riverdale was closeby! I remember e remnant of witch's woods in the back of Town & Country Park.
Jackie_Robinson

Memphis, TN

#321 Oct 22, 2010
Wow! This page is cool. I moved to Riverdale In 1992 and even since then so much has changed. The old thrift store is a beauty supply, Washington Elementary was extended,I hate that they turned the old post office into a daycare and the old police dept into a school. I missed the way it used to be in the 90s. So much has changed. There was a murder a week ago. A business man was killed in his home. Sad to say, Riverdale has become a slum. I also miss Michael Js:(

“Riverdale News”

Since: Oct 10

Riverdale IL

#322 Oct 31, 2010
Jackie_Robinson wrote:
Wow! This page is cool. I moved to Riverdale In 1992 and even since then so much has changed. The old thrift store is a beauty supply, Washington Elementary was extended,I hate that they turned the old post office into a daycare and the old police dept into a school. I missed the way it used to be in the 90s. So much has changed. There was a murder a week ago. A business man was killed in his home. Sad to say, Riverdale has become a slum. I also miss Michael Js:(
We all must work to improve our community for this is what we call home.

“Riverdale News”

Since: Oct 10

Riverdale IL

#323 Oct 31, 2010
Lost in the Sixties wrote:
<quoted text>Because the Section 8's moved out south after they tore the projects down in the city. People started moving out of Roseland, Altgeld Gardens...the riff raff, get it? Everything is gone Bummie's, Fin & Feather, Garfalo's, Simnick's Amoco, Frosty Hut, Felix's, Westerfield's you name it someone can vouch for it to be gone. The only thing that looks the same is the IC stations, Riverdale Park, Ivanhoe area. What a shame!
Yes Riverdale has it share of problems with the riff raff and what have you but we going to see if we can get its standard back up to par, but every community has its problem some just more than others.
Dusty

Schaumburg, IL

#324 Nov 2, 2010
Actually, the old IC Stations (now it's the Metra Electric)with the wooden platforms have been replaced for years. The old stations at 137th/138th ST and at 144th ST (Ivanhoe) use to have a lady selling train tickets in the booth before the ticket machines were installed. Those stations even had bathrooms, but were closed after being vandalized all the time. The warming houses on the platforms stunk from people peeing in them all the time. It was long overdue that they were replaced.
Yes, a lot of stuff is gone from 20+ years ago, but Riverdale Park still looks the same as well as many of the houses. Much of Ivanhoe and Ivanhoe Parks, still looks the same...as well as Queen of Apostles, St. Mary's church, etc. There's been some big changes too-CCA gone from 144th & Indiana AV, Elk's Club, Sola's all gone, Jewel is something else, Chuck's Gun Shop still there though.
Hard to believe this topic is still going after a year with well over 300 posts! Thanks everyone, I never thought it would take off and last like this! Let's keep it going and keep it positve. If anyone has any questions about the old Dolton, Riverdale and the surrounding areas, please keep them coming, they all seem to get answered here!
Ben There

Springfield, IL

#325 Nov 5, 2010
Dusty wrote:
Actually, the old IC Stations (now it's the Metra Electric)with the wooden platforms have been replaced for years. The old stations at 137th/138th ST and at 144th ST (Ivanhoe) use to have a lady selling train tickets in the booth before the ticket machines were installed. Those stations even had bathrooms, but were closed after being vandalized all the time. The warming houses on the platforms stunk from people peeing in them all the time. It was long overdue that they were replaced.
Yes, a lot of stuff is gone from 20+ years ago, but Riverdale Park still looks the same as well as many of the houses. Much of Ivanhoe and Ivanhoe Parks, still looks the same...as well as Queen of Apostles, St. Mary's church, etc. There's been some big changes too-CCA gone from 144th & Indiana AV, Elk's Club, Sola's all gone, Jewel is something else, Chuck's Gun Shop still there though.
Hard to believe this topic is still going after a year with well over 300 posts! Thanks everyone, I never thought it would take off and last like this! Let's keep it going and keep it positve. If anyone has any questions about the old Dolton, Riverdale and the surrounding areas, please keep them coming, they all seem to get answered here!
It's been a good post! Remember all the parades, not just the 4th of July. There was a Memorial Day Parade that went from 137th St in Riverdale, to Leyden Av/Lincoln Ave to Chicago RD. The Dolton-RiverdaleBaseball League at Thompsen Park, Needles Park and the field by Riverdale Park. The American Legion on 138th ST. The Knights of Columbus Hall on 138th ST by School ST.Too bad Parkview Bowling Alley is gone. I'm suprised the old Tri-City Bowling Building is still there in Dolton.
live in dolton

Chicago, IL

#326 Nov 6, 2010
Thornridge meeting on Monday, November 8th, 7 p.m. at the Dorchester. My understanding is, that the school district got a very huge grant (millions)! So the superintendant has decided, that they are going to bus the upper classmen to Thornwood and Thornton. The idea RUINS Thornridge! I'm not for it all and will be expressing my concerns! They aren't going to put any money into Thornridge, in regards to maintenance upgrades, technology, extra curricular activities - nothing. At this "academy" the children will not have any sporting activities, music/band, clubs, nothing at all! So what does this mean? It will be alot more trouble/traffic and dismay and we won't be getting the resources needed to handle it! There will be an influx of the new kids that have been moved from the inner city. Everything regarding funding, will be going to Thornwood and Thornton! They are implementing some type of new foreign language progam; I believe Japanese and have already hired a Japanese teacher. Thornridge will be left like a motherless child! No more graduations - no more championships in football, basketball, baseball, etc. They have no idea how many more buses they will need. They have no idea how much longer students will be riding around in buses.

Parents of Thornridge need to take a stand! How dare the school district receive all this money but they abandoned Thornridge and make it a one grade academy! However, when residents don't take an interest in anything this is how stuff gets slid in! Parents moved here so their children could attend Thornridge.

First of all, everyone, their move is illegal. It was done under the guise of parental and community involvement and consent. Did anyone ask you what your thoughts were? This move involves dismantling the schools which turn them in to non-traditional high schools, thus bringing our property values down in all communities in Thornton Township. Additionally, after the SIG is over three years from it's inception, the taxpayers must foot the bill. Did anyone ask you? The Board, who, by the way never read the grant, simply signs and does whatever Dr. Buckner wishes to our children's demise. Monday, November 8th, 7 p.m. at the Dorchester. Even our Mayor Lewis is concern about this matter. Come out bring neighbors, it affects every community that feeds into the three Thorns. Bring your questions and see if you get the answers. Together, we can send a strong message to the Board and Dr.B., who has been allowed her and her administration to fail our children for over 12 years with salary increases starting at over 120k now at 250k plus for her continuing complete failure. Come to the Board meetings. Last week they tried to pass a TIF for Mayor Webb in Markham where they do not have to pay taxes for 20 years. We have fliers starting to vote them out of office. Three seats are up for re-election April, 2011, DR. CARL E. King, VANESSA BRADLEY, AND DR. SALLIE D. PENMAN. WE MUST VOTE THEM OUT. They are bringing in 19 schools into our communities, more gangs, endangering our streets, homes and children. I can tell you much and they are facts. If you don't like what's happening put up or sit back and allow them to take over. We need to work together to save what we have worked so hard for. No one wants to move into a community that doesn't provide amenities like traditional four-year high schools. Our homes will be hard to sell again, and with the economy the way it is our property value is already low. With this dramatic change in our communities our property values will be much, much lower. That's one of the reasons they conveniently failed to bring this idea to the table. I am fighting, will you fight with us? Please the children need you!!!!!

“Riverdale News”

Since: Oct 10

Riverdale IL

#327 Nov 6, 2010
Ben There wrote:
<quoted text>It's been a good post! Remember all the parades, not just the 4th of July. There was a Memorial Day Parade that went from 137th St in Riverdale, to Leyden Av/Lincoln Ave to Chicago RD. The Dolton-RiverdaleBaseball League at Thompsen Park, Needles Park and the field by Riverdale Park. The American Legion on 138th ST. The Knights of Columbus Hall on 138th ST by School ST.Too bad Parkview Bowling Alley is gone. I'm suprised the old Tri-City Bowling Building is still there in Dolton.
Back in the day they had parades going down 137th. Give me that old time Riverdale back. I use to take my kid in the kid bowling league on 138th on Saturday in Riverdale in the fall. I remember boweling there in adult league and boweling one of my highest game ever about 269 or something. Give me some of that old time Riverdale back.
Dusty

Schaumburg, IL

#328 Nov 12, 2010
Booker T wrote:
<quoted text>
Back in the day they had parades going down 137th. Give me that old time Riverdale back. I use to take my kid in the kid bowling league on 138th on Saturday in Riverdale in the fall. I remember boweling there in adult league and boweling one of my highest game ever about 269 or something. Give me some of that old time Riverdale back.
The area 0f 137th St and Indiana AVE was the Downtown Riverdale, although looking around there now, there isn't too much now. At the turn of the last century, there were stores, bars, a theatre, hotel, bank, a street car (with tracks), restaurants, laundry, etc. What I remember was the old Felix's Colonial Club that was a restaurant and bar with apartments above that were hotel rooms. There was a dry cleaners across the street from Felix's. There was an ancient bar called the Wonder Inn just a little to the west of Felix's. On the other side of the tracks and across the street was the old Village Hall, Police Station with a jail in the basement, Fire Dept., etc. Later, the Village Public Works and Civil Defense were in there. It was a big older building between the tracks and Wabash, but it's empty now. A lot of parades were started from there! At State and 137th st. you had Louis $ Mario's Restaraunt that served Italian meals. A little further past there was the old Acme Tap bar-the building is still there but under a different name. Going back to the RR Tracks, there was an old freight House and maintenance shacks. 137th St doesn't look like much happened there now, but it was very active back in the day! Maybe someone else can help out with posting what was there at one time that I might have missed, forgot, or didn't know about.
Dusty

Schaumburg, IL

#329 Nov 12, 2010
Also forgot to mention that there were two double sets of RR tracks crossing 137th ST near Wabash, not just the one double set (CSX) that you have now. Illinois Bell also had a big office towards Indiana AVE and Riverdale Bank was a real busy place too! If you go online and type in "historic riverdale il photos" or something like that on google, you should be able to find some nice old photos of 137th ST. The difference between how it is now and way back when is like night and day!

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#330 Nov 13, 2010
Dusty wrote:
Actually, the old IC Stations (now it's the Metra Electric)with the wooden platforms have been replaced for years. The old stations at 137th/138th ST and at 144th ST (Ivanhoe) use to have a lady selling train tickets in the booth before the ticket machines were installed. Those stations even had bathrooms, but were closed after being vandalized all the time. The warming houses on the platforms stunk from people peeing in them all the time. It was long overdue that they were replaced.
Yes, a lot of stuff is gone from 20+ years ago, but Riverdale Park still looks the same as well as many of the houses. Much of Ivanhoe and Ivanhoe Parks, still looks the same...as well as Queen of Apostles, St. Mary's church, etc. There's been some big changes too-CCA gone from 144th & Indiana AV, Elk's Club, Sola's all gone, Jewel is something else, Chuck's Gun Shop still there though.
Hard to believe this topic is still going after a year with well over 300 posts! Thanks everyone, I never thought it would take off and last like this! Let's keep it going and keep it positve. If anyone has any questions about the old Dolton, Riverdale and the surrounding areas, please keep them coming, they all seem to get answered here!
Jewel is now a school for bad kids. Theres cameras all around it.
Dusty

United States

#331 Nov 13, 2010
Jackie_Robinson wrote:
<quoted text>
Jewel is now a school for bad kids. Theres cameras all around it.
Thanks!
Dusty

United States

#332 Nov 13, 2010
I was looking at some old photos on "Webshots" of 137th ST last night. There was an old photo of the Illinois Central Crossing, before it was elevated. It was right next to the old Acme Tap. Metra electric runs on the elevated track nowadays. Riverdale Park was built to "wow" railroad passengers as they went through Riverdale. It was and still appears to be a nice park that looks kept up. I don't know if the old fountain is still there or if it still works. Before the ICRR was elevated, Riverdale Park would have been at eye level with passing trains. Leyden Ave seemed to be a continuation of 137th ST, but was and still is within Chiago City Limits. I really don't know too much about the "Chicago" neighborhood east of Indiana, north of Leyden Ave and south of the Calumet River. The housing looks ancient so there must be some interesting history about that area.
arby

Lansing, IL

#333 Nov 14, 2010
i went to papa damiani's last night. it's now located in the NORTHWOODS resturant in st. john, in. go in the front door and turn left. they have a lot of the old tables and chairs in there, not to mention, pictures of the old place. while eating there, i heard bits and pieces of conversations going on about dolton. the sausage on the pizza seemed a little saltier than i remember, but, i'm also a bit older and maybe more salt sensitive these days. the pizza was still good and i will definitely go back. i will also spread the word to my old dolton-riverdale friends.
Ben There

Springfield, IL

#334 Nov 22, 2010
arby wrote:
i went to papa damiani's last night. it's now located in the NORTHWOODS resturant in st. john, in. go in the front door and turn left. they have a lot of the old tables and chairs in there, not to mention, pictures of the old place. while eating there, i heard bits and pieces of conversations going on about dolton. the sausage on the pizza seemed a little saltier than i remember, but, i'm also a bit older and maybe more salt sensitive these days. the pizza was still good and i will definitely go back. i will also spread the word to my old dolton-riverdale friends.Is Northwoods on RT 41, south of US 30? Damiani's had real good pizza!
I see that Predle Wodworking is still there across the street from the former Papa Damianis. It was an old bank building at one time! Leyden Avenue was a continuation of 137th ST and an off shoot of Indiana Ave. Leyden Ave turns into Lincoln Ave once you get into Dolton on the southside of 138th ST. There were 3 closeby communities that the business districts were interconnected(Chicago, Riverdale, Dolton) and that's how Tri-City Bowling got its name! 138th St continued east to the clay pits and brick factories. the Trophy Shop is still on Licoln Ave in Dolton, but there aren't too many business's left from the old days!
Dusty

Schaumburg, IL

#335 Nov 26, 2010
arby wrote:
i went to papa damiani's last night. it's now located in the NORTHWOODS resturant in st. john, in. go in the front door and turn left. they have a lot of the old tables and chairs in there, not to mention, pictures of the old place. while eating there, i heard bits and pieces of conversations going on about dolton. the sausage on the pizza seemed a little saltier than i remember, but, i'm also a bit older and maybe more salt sensitive these days. the pizza was still good and i will definitely go back. i will also spread the word to my old dolton-riverdale friends.
Thanks for the update Arby! That ought to be the last of the old-time "family owned" restaurants in Dolton (that I can think of). I've seen that "new" location, I might have to find an excuse to "go there!"
Dusty

Schaumburg, IL

#336 Nov 26, 2010
Ben There wrote:
<quoted text>I see that Predle Wodworking is still there across the street from the former Papa Damianis. It was an old bank building at one time! Leyden Avenue was a continuation of 137th ST and an off shoot of Indiana Ave. Leyden Ave turns into Lincoln Ave once you get into Dolton on the southside of 138th ST. There were 3 closeby communities that the business districts were interconnected(Chicago, Riverdale, Dolton) and that's how Tri-City Bowling got its name! 138th St continued east to the clay pits and brick factories. the Trophy Shop is still on Licoln Ave in Dolton, but there aren't too many business's left from the old days!
There are pictures online also showing a street car running on Leyden-Lincoln Avenue. It use to run to and from Roseland. I forget the website, but there was a photo of a streetcar on 137th Street also. By looking at the houses in the "Valley" section of Dolton, that looks to be the "old" part of town, much like the 137th Street area of Riverdale and the area just north of Leyden Avenue, east of Indiana Ave. There are some ancient houses in that neghborhood just northeast of the bridge going across the Calumet River on Indiana Ave.(You wouldn't think to look at it now, but that area was the beginning of Dolton and Riverdale.) I remember driving through there a few times going to parties at Skip's Marina. If I remember right, there seemed to be a bit of farming going on way back in there.

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