Four facing charges for selling alcohol to minors in Dolgeville

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Concerned Parent

Herkimer, NY

#1 Sep 6, 2012
If you work at a place that sells alcohol, don't you think it would be smart to ID the little 17 yr olds and 14 yr olds that set down a fricken thirty pack on the counter in front of you... Stop looking at tits and facial hair, and stop trusting people you don't know... now your lives are ruined for ever having a job that sells alcohol, or working with children... If any of you ever sold my children at 14 or 17 I would assume you wanted to get them drunk and take advantage of them...
SinceWeAssume

Herkimer, NY

#2 Sep 6, 2012
Concerned Parent wrote:
If you work at a place that sells alcohol, don't you think it would be smart to ID the little 17 yr olds and 14 yr olds that set down a fricken thirty pack on the counter in front of you... Stop looking at tits and facial hair, and stop trusting people you don't know... now your lives are ruined for ever having a job that sells alcohol, or working with children... If any of you ever sold my children at 14 or 17 I would assume you wanted to get them drunk and take advantage of them...
Since this is about assuming, if your 14 or 17 year old tried to buy alcohol I would assume you messed up parenting somewhere alone the way. Just sayin'
Dopey

Canajoharie, NY

#3 Sep 6, 2012
The cops talk 20 year old kids who look thirty to buy beer at local stores, These dumb kids think they are something. I know my son was 19 and with beard looked 30 they tried to talk him into this crap. I told him you could ruin someone life, do not do this. These too many cops are just looking for headline, why dont they do there own jobs. I think this is entrapment, how much does it cost taxpayers for this crap. Why don't the cops sit in their cars and do what they do best. Collect pay, build pensions, and look like John Wayne. I'm sorry, catch someone talking on cell or no seat belt.
legallord

Little Falls, NY

#4 Sep 6, 2012
Concerned Parent wrote:
If you work at a place that sells alcohol, don't you think it would be smart to ID the little 17 yr olds and 14 yr olds that set down a fricken thirty pack on the counter in front of you... Stop looking at tits and facial hair, and stop trusting people you don't know... now your lives are ruined for ever having a job that sells alcohol, or working with children... If any of you ever sold my children at 14 or 17 I would assume you wanted to get them drunk and take advantage of them...
It's nice how a concerned parent assumes they know the whole story and have nothing better to do but bash others for honest mistakes. Yes they are mistakes but as far as I knew we are all human and make mistakes as NO ONE is PERFECT whether they think they are or not. I wish to restate this as there are really no mistakes in life but lessons. As long as you learn from them they are lessons. There is not a soul on this earth who hasn't made a wrong decision in their lives and hopefully learned from them. Granted some lessons are harder learned but with that being said as long as one is learned life goes on. Haven't you ever heard that when you assume you make an ass our of you and me. I have to agree with the comment about if someone sold alcohol to a 14 or 17 year old that they couldn't have been a very good parent to have their child trying to buy the alcohol. Right back at you! For your information these people have not had their day in court yet so you can not say they will never get a job that sells alcohol again or work with children. Remember innocent until proven guilty. A lot can happen in court with a good attorney. You would be surprised! Yes these individuals may have lost their jobs where they were caught but it is my belief that not one of them intentionally sold the beverages to hurt another or cause a problem. Just put yourself in their shoes and see how the shoe fits if you were the ones this happened to instead. Don't forget there is a fine line between which side you may end up on in instances like this. So what your saying is you would never have made such a silly mistake. Well lets see now, maybe you'll be put to the test one day and then lets see who's barking up the tree. Personally I realize everybody is entitled to their opinion but gossip is purely evil and hurtful. Resentment toward others will not get you any where in life so don't forget your time may come one day and then the cards will be turned.
well done

Herkimer, NY

#5 Sep 7, 2012
Well done Stewart's & Fastrac for not selling to minors!!! JW-why wasn't the old D-R included in there?
DIGUSTED

Little Falls, NY

#7 Sep 7, 2012
None of these people intended to sell to a minor. These sting operations attempt to trick the bartenders.They probably even have make-up on the moniors to make them look older.
d-ville dan

Herkimer, NY

#8 Sep 7, 2012
Why do you care
Know it all

Canajoharie, NY

#9 Sep 7, 2012
Cops teach kids to be liars and cheats, Just what do the kids get out of playing the game? They learn how to buy booze when not legal. Thats something they may never thought of. The police look like heroes because they caught the criminals who sold beer to a guy 20 who looked 30. The clerk working a minimum pay job gets fired, the store owner pays a lawyer, then a fine, Fake John Wayne feels pround. What has this country become.? They then put arrest in paper, to give creditability to keep excess police in all these small towns. The taxpayers stand by helpless and unwilling to question the over cost of police cars driving up down empty streets 24-7.
just saying

Herkimer, NY

#10 Sep 7, 2012
easyMart does sell to under aged kids! They need to get caught! I dont agree with how they do this setup and put kids into their games when all they need to do is go undercover themselves sit and watch it all go down instead of involving our kids to do something theyve been brought up not to do!
just sayin as well

Little Falls, NY

#11 Sep 8, 2012
Easy Mart does sell to minors! its a well known fact among the kids.. they dont even ask for id!
Check

Cicero, NY

#12 Sep 8, 2012
EasyMart is out of the village limits, kiddies. The Dolgeville police have no jurisdiction over them. Check to see where the village limits signs are located before mouthing off.
Check

Cicero, NY

#13 Sep 8, 2012
Know it all wrote:
Cops teach kids to be liars and cheats, Just what do the kids get out of playing the game? They learn how to buy booze when not legal. Thats something they may never thought of. The police look like heroes because they caught the criminals who sold beer to a guy 20 who looked 30. The clerk working a minimum pay job gets fired, the store owner pays a lawyer, then a fine, Fake John Wayne feels pround. What has this country become.? They then put arrest in paper, to give creditability to keep excess police in all these small towns. The taxpayers stand by helpless and unwilling to question the over cost of police cars driving up down empty streets 24-7.
The last time I checked IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES TO MINORS. Let the police do their job. How would you like it if all the establishments who were caught lost their licenses to sell alcohol for an extended period of time? Because that's the next step.

Did you see any of the business who were caught in the past 2 years on that list? Nope.... I wonder why?
legallord

Little Falls, NY

#14 Sep 8, 2012
Check wrote:
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The last time I checked IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES TO MINORS. Let the police do their job. How would you like it if all the establishments who were caught lost their licenses to sell alcohol for an extended period of time? Because that's the next step.
Did you see any of the business who were caught in the past 2 years on that list? Nope.... I wonder why?
I think it wouldn't be a half bad idea to have all establishments not sell alcohol so then there won't be this problem. Let it stay in the bars and not the stores. Let those that want to drink go to the bars! Or better yet maybe the stores that do sell alcohol set up a register just for those purchasing alcohol that has to have the ID scanned and presented before purchasing the alcohol. This whole bunch of crap is ludicrous. Most people employed at these places work part time for very little trying to get ahead in the world while maybe having to support their family and having to take on a second job or maybe helping them while they put themselves through college and this is the shit they get in return for maybe trusting someone a little too much. I guess maybe they should have just collected welfare and lived off the working class like so many others in this village do. Knock a person for working and trying to make a go of it. This world is ridiculous. Didn't hear of these things happening years ago now did we and god only knows half of the people who were employed in similar type of work would have lost their jobs years ago as well. It shows just how much this world has changed when we are inundated with selling this drug, like cigarettes everywhere. Next thing you know they'll be doing stings on cigarette sales to minors. Solution to it all is don't sell it in stores. Let it be found in the places it should be in such as bars. If the people feel they need it then that's where they need to go to purchase it. It's unfortunate that those places that everyone knows sells to minors doesn't get caught but those who usually don't get caught that one time a bad decision is made. The whole thing is wrong, but there we go the system has to find a way to get money somehow, so lets do some alcohol stings. Wow, that will raise some money from the charge, legal fees, you name it. The whole world is going to hell. Let's try cracking down on some of these illegal drug users and providers in this town. Oh yeah that's right we're too afraid of them and what they'll do so let's stick with the ones that can try to discredit a person and business. I hope the drug and liquor authority and local police are happy now! Personally I don't think they'll be getting any pats on the back from lots of people in this village when they could have our tax dollars better spent on getting the crack heads, rapists, illegal welfare recipients off the street. Enough said!!!
Dayum

Syracuse, NY

#15 Sep 8, 2012
If they sold pot instead of beer we wouldn't be having all these drunk kids around.
DolgeFan

Herkimer, NY

#16 Sep 8, 2012
A 20 year old is not a minor being sent in to a bar or store. They are just underage to buy alcohol. If these people were caught this time what makes you think they haven't done it before? They are obligated to check Id's. If they didn't that's their own fault. I've seen businesses card people who are obviously not under the age of 21. I'm 55 and I've been carded. I might think it's funny that I'm being carded but I also know they are just doing their jobs so I don't mind. The employees who got caught knew they weren't doing their jobs but they went ahead and sold it anyway. They knew this could happen at any time but they still sold the stuff. They screwed up and will now pay the price for it. DO YOUR JOB AND THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN!
Tips

Canajoharie, NY

#17 Sep 8, 2012
I agree business should not sell to under age people. I don't agree with enticing young people to lie and cheat, by the police of all people. The small town police don't have a lot to do, they should know who the kids are buying booze, if they got out of the gas burners they hate to shut off. Walk the streets and engage in conversations and bond a little with the public. Then sit in front of a suspected business and watch known underage kids walk out with booze, do their job. You same people who think this type of operation is ok ,drive 70 on thruway and complain when you get ticketed. You talk on cell phones while driving, you roll thru stop signs . You could kill people as well as a drunk driver. Hypocrites you are.
d-ville dan

Herkimer, NY

#18 Sep 8, 2012
oh damn who are the daredevils that would be crazy enough to do 70 on the thruway, my lord.
Tips

Canajoharie, NY

#19 Sep 8, 2012
It is against the law to drive 70 on thruway, same as selling beer to minors. I know we all drive 72 there and don't get tickets, but it still is breaking the law over 65. As I said hypocrites.
bout time

Little Falls, NY

#20 Sep 10, 2012
Check wrote:
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The last time I checked IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES TO MINORS. Let the police do their job. How would you like it if all the establishments who were caught lost their licenses to sell alcohol for an extended period of time? Because that's the next step.
Did you see any of the business who were caught in the past 2 years on that list? Nope.... I wonder why?
well dopps inn had never been caught with this before, n i dont wonder why, i know why.....because they do not serve minors, but on a busy night when you send in a kid looking 30 it happend, big deal!!!!
Facts

Cicero, NY

#21 Sep 10, 2012
bout time wrote:
<quoted text> well dopps inn had never been caught with this before, n i dont wonder why, i know why.....because they do not serve minors, but on a busy night when you send in a kid looking 30 it happend, big deal!!!!
It's illegal and they got caught. Now they have to deal with the ramifications. It's the cost of doing business until their liquor license is revoked. Those are the facts.

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