Shouldn't the old school be condemned?

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sorrycharlie

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Aug 23, 2012
 
make the owner fix it. or tag it for the wrecking ball. its gotten to be an eyesore
citizen

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Aug 24, 2012
 

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It's gotten to be an eye so so tear it down?? Easy way out, average dolgevill mentality, I guess the Daniel greens buildings are eye sores too, they should be torn down. Ohhh The new DNR with all their underage drinkers is an eye sore tear it down. Why don't we cut off all exits and just flood the place, I think it will take care of the real problem.
notstuckinthepas t

Verona, NY

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Aug 25, 2012
 
why don't you put your money where your mouth is. buy it, and fix it. and find a useful purpose for it; and one that will help you get back the $$ you pour into it. oh, but there's one problem: you don't have 2 nickels to rub together..so go find someone who can. oh, thats right, the guy down the street at the Dolgeville Mill has done that. I'll bet he's glad he's made such a sound "investment.
When these buildings were built, they were built for a purpose.Now they don't have one (which is sad, but is reality).
I'll bet you keep all your old wore-out shoes, and clothes (that you don't fit in anymore) and probably your old car, too?
Those buildings are falling apart, and are already a liability to those "responsible" for them.
citizen wrote:
It's gotten to be an eye so so tear it down?? Easy way out, average dolgevill mentality, I guess the Daniel greens buildings are eye sores too, they should be torn down. Ohhh The new DNR with all their underage drinkers is an eye sore tear it down. Why don't we cut off all exits and just flood the place, I think it will take care of the real problem.
ohmy

Little Falls, NY

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Aug 25, 2012
 

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the problem with the old school, is that it is full of aspestos.. no one wants to put in the money to have it removed..
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Herkimer, NY

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Aug 25, 2012
 

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its needs to come down or the ppl who own it need to either fix it or be fined for the condition they allowed it to get into.Imagine if we allowed house 2 get like that we would b fined big time.Something needs to be done.
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Tully, NY

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Aug 26, 2012
 

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this building is in the center of town and is not a good remembrancer of its founder.
tear it down and make it a nice park. bring back the bust of AD and call it Alfred Dolge Memorial Park.
Let it be enjoyed, and then maybe people will remember AD for what he envisioned and strove for; not for what we see right now.
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Little Falls, NY

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#7
Aug 27, 2012
 
.. there are grants for everything else.. there isn't one that will help here?? I like the idea of extending the park. but it also needs something added for the kids to do.. they destroy the items in the playground.. and cry because there is nothing to do.. they do need entertainment ..
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Aug 27, 2012
 
agreed wrote:
.. there are grants for everything else.. there isn't one that will help here?? I like the idea of extending the park. but it also needs something added for the kids to do.. they destroy the items in the playground.. and cry because there is nothing to do.. they do need entertainment ..
Most grants are given to non profit or governmental agencies. The owner of the property and not the village has to apply for grants. You're never going to get the Corrigans to write a grant for any of the multiple old school building properties they own. The village would have to purchase the old school property in order to extend the park. Do you think they have the money to do that?

It took the village almost 5 months to get the Corrigans to board up multiple openings into the old school. The Corrigans are not our friends. They are too busy running that dumpy, moldy, horrid Lake House.
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Little Falls, NY

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Aug 27, 2012
 
i have no clue.>clueless< I was just asking..
notstuckinthepas t

Tully, NY

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Aug 28, 2012
 
so then, the village should use their authority and take the next step (the name of this post)
how much would an asbestos filled and CONDEMNED property be worth then?
What amount of effort will the owner want to put out to bring the building up to present NY building code standards?
The Corrigans need some MOTIVATION. See, there is no apparent $ making reason moving them to make improvements, but there are other legitimate "motivating" actions within the scope of the authority of the village, aren't there?
They may want to turn over the deed to the village when its all said and done..
then maybe something nice could be accomplished for the village. Hey Bruce, what do you think?
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Most grants are given to non profit or governmental agencies. The owner of the property and not the village has to apply for grants. You're never going to get the Corrigans to write a grant for any of the multiple old school building properties they own. The village would have to purchase the old school property in order to extend the park. Do you think they have the money to do that?
It took the village almost 5 months to get the Corrigans to board up multiple openings into the old school. The Corrigans are not our friends. They are too busy running that dumpy, moldy, horrid Lake House.
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Aug 28, 2012
 
notstuckinthepast wrote:
so then, the village should use their authority and take the next step (the name of this post)
how much would an asbestos filled and CONDEMNED property be worth then?
What amount of effort will the owner want to put out to bring the building up to present NY building code standards?
The Corrigans need some MOTIVATION. See, there is no apparent $ making reason moving them to make improvements, but there are other legitimate "motivating" actions within the scope of the authority of the village, aren't there?
They may want to turn over the deed to the village when its all said and done..
then maybe something nice could be accomplished for the village. Hey Bruce, what do you think?
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Do you have any idea how much asbestos removal costs? The village can barely afford to keep this place afloat let along take on the costs of asbestos removal. The best thing to do is to level the place. The building is far too damaged for restoration. The Corrigans aren't going to turn anything over to the village. Neither will they be motivated to do anything. Why not call them at the Lake House with your recommendations? Perhaps you have more persuasive ability than the codes officer.
notstuckinthepas t

South Butler, NY

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Aug 28, 2012
 
i guess i wasnt clear enough in my 2 posts. the best/only option is to tear it down no matter who owns it. but if the village did, then maybe something nice could be done with the property

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Aug 28, 2012
 
Since the village doesn't own the property nor is it in the position to purchase it, your premise is a fairy tale. Sorry about that.7387
snide

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Aug 30, 2012
 
who said anything about purchase it! now you know that things happen corrigan
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Since the village doesn't own the property nor is it in the position to purchase it, your premise is a fairy tale. Sorry about that.7387
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Aug 30, 2012
 
i think i noticed some loose bricks near the roof.
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Little Falls, NY

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Aug 31, 2012
 
when the mayor can make some money off it then it will be torn down.like the stewarts deal
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Herkimer, NY

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Sep 1, 2012
 
it should just be destroyed its unsafe for our children and makes our town look like garbage
sowhoareyou

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Sep 16, 2012
 
fairy tales.. fantasy/ reality.
ASBESTOS? whose problem is it? not the village. so then, theres nothing the owner can do with this building except pay taxes on it?
TAXES: how much do they pay in taxes each year anyway?
looks like their the ones not in a position to do anything that will make them any $
huh in LF wrote:
Since the village doesn't own the property nor is it in the position to purchase it, your premise is a fairy tale. Sorry about that.7387
Think

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Sep 17, 2012
 

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sowhoareyou wrote:
fairy tales.. fantasy/ reality.
ASBESTOS? whose problem is it? not the village. so then, theres nothing the owner can do with this building except pay taxes on it?
TAXES: how much do they pay in taxes each year anyway?
looks like their the ones not in a position to do anything that will make them any $<quoted text>
You make no sense. The current and previous owners knew that with the age of the building asbestos abatement and removal was needed. The Corrigans own at least 3 other local abandoned school properties that have buildings of the same vintage as the Dolgeville school. Owners of private buildings are responsible for asbestos removal.

Call Village Hall and ask what the taxes are on the Corrigan property. It's public information, you just have to ask for it.

It took the village over 3 months to get the Corrigans to board up some broken windows at the back of the property. Now this involved some boards, nails, a hammer and a guy to do the work. This alone speaks volumes on the "commitment" the Corrigans have on their property in our village.
sowhoareyou

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Sep 17, 2012
 
let me spell it out for you moron.
the corrigan's or you, whoever you are, are not gonna pay for the asbestos abatement or removal because 1.you likely can't afford to have it done, along with the cost to rehabilitate the building and 2. if you could afford to do it, you know that you never in a million years would be able to recoup what you put into it, right?

so, NO asbestos removal-NO useful purpose for this building.
so then YOU are the ones that are stuck aren't you?
stuck with the liability of ownership and
stuck paying taxes on a heap of trash eyesore that has YOUR name on it.
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You make no sense. The current and previous owners knew that with the age of the building asbestos abatement and removal was needed. The Corrigans own at least 3 other local abandoned school properties that have buildings of the same vintage as the Dolgeville school. Owners of private buildings are responsible for asbestos removal.
Call Village Hall and ask what the taxes are on the Corrigan property. It's public information, you just have to ask for it.
It took the village over 3 months to get the Corrigans to board up some broken windows at the back of the property. Now this involved some boards, nails, a hammer and a guy to do the work. This alone speaks volumes on the "commitment" the Corrigans have on their property in our village.

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