Stoney Creek Community Center
please

United States

#45 Oct 12, 2012
Towneeee wrote:
In do time you will see what this Messiah (Bart) will lead you to, and then take from you. Fools, can't see the forest for the trees !!
Give it up towneeee. Now you're just being foolish
relax

United States

#46 Oct 12, 2012
Bart wrote:
People are the foundation of a community. The most important component of any structure is the foundation. Bart is helping to strengthen the foundation/structure of this community, figuratively and literally.
Bart, if you haven't already noticed, a lot of people in this community do not like to see change. They fear change whether it is necessary or not. What you have accomplished with this group of women and men eclipses any acclompishment I have witnessed by any other individual in this town.
Why people would criticize an individual who's goal is to help his peers have a better quality of life is disturbing and puzzling.
-Jeremy Boyer
Its not like you're gonna get a free membership for kissing his ass. Calm down
Bart

Ithaca, NY

#47 Oct 12, 2012
"relax"
Haha, no ass kissing going on here. It's called giving credit, where credit is due. What have you done for your community lately out there in Framingham, MA no-name?
Frosty Pitcher

Long Eddy, NY

#48 Oct 12, 2012
What flavor Kool Aid is being served?
The Thin Man Advocate

Ilion, NY

#49 Oct 13, 2012
Frosty Pitcher wrote:
What flavor Kool Aid is being served?
Ask Bart. Go ahead. you can do it. Nothing to fear. You might learn something. I'll go with you if you like. And if it is too much for you, i'll console you. you've nothing to fear.
Frosty Pitcher

Long Eddy, NY

#50 Oct 13, 2012
The Thin Man Advocate wrote:
<quoted text>
Ask Bart. Go ahead. you can do it. Nothing to fear. You might learn something. I'll go with you if you like. And if it is too much for you, i'll console you. you've nothing to fear.
Spoken like a true born again. Now run along. Go be "saved".
Curious

Framingham, MA

#51 Oct 13, 2012
If he is so honest why has he been red flagged on scamvent.com ?
Frosty Pitcher

Long Eddy, NY

#52 Oct 13, 2012
This has the same ring as the line Charlie Soucup spun to our community when he bought the Mill and surrounding buildings. I remember attending the meetings and presentations Charlie made. Tell me what happened to all those promises Charlie made? Why should we believe the current bluster? Charlie had millions to his name. Does this group? Just asking.

**********

WOW!! Linda Fake just sent me the first draft of our proposed building for the Stoney Creek Community Center...I am speechless, encouraged and the HIGH octane energy switch just flipped on!

We have got to make this a reality....it will change Central New York in so many ways!! Think about 80+ Jobs coming to Dolgeville and the surrounding area! Or the family center for daycare, before and after school, summer programs, 365 Farmer's Market, Coffee house, Golden Age Club, Athletic Training Center, Weddings, Parties, Celebrations...COME ON...Let's make this community building a reality...we cannot do it without you! Will you help?
Frosty Pitcher

Long Eddy, NY

#53 Oct 13, 2012
Curious wrote:
If he is so honest why has he been red flagged on scamvent.com ?
Read this any you will find out why. Is this why he went back into the Service? Just be forewarned and be aware. Make your own decisions. Once a scammer always a scammer.

http://www.csi.mt.gov/legal/securities/pdf/S0...
Billy Joe Bob

Ilion, NY

#55 Oct 14, 2012
I recken after you get one bad pickle out of the pickle jar you think all the pickles are bad. Pay no mind and try again. The next pickle may be the sweet one you have been waiting for! Than you'll be happier than a bumble bee in a flower shop!
Sad Advocate

Ilion, NY

#56 Oct 14, 2012
Frosty Pitcher wrote:
<quoted text>
Read this any you will find out why. Is this why he went back into the Service? Just be forewarned and be aware. Make your own decisions. Once a scammer always a scammer.
http://www.csi.mt.gov/legal/securities/pdf/S0...
Good people make bad choices. And people learn from their choices...or don't. But posting that info on a public forum was one of the most disgusting forms of fear-biting I have witnessed. I wonder how many of you have ever interacted with Bart; voiced your concerns; asked questions. And who appointed you Mommy to the folks who choose to support his vision? This is sad. Very, very sad. I'm done here.
Unbiased

United States

#57 Oct 14, 2012
I think the person who posted it is only doing it as a warning. this is all stuff that can be found by a public internet search. Maybe these people blindly put their faith in him and were lead to financial ruin. We are a small town that could not bounce back from something like this. It isn't sad, it is education. Was he open with his new investors bout his past misdeeds. I suppose his disciples will continue to make excuses when facts are put out in black and white. It is not being "appointed mommy" to care about the people in our community and shame on you for saying that. I believe the person posted this with every intention of saving their fellow neighbors of financial and emotional despair. As I said all this stuff is public record if anyone had bothered to look before joining this questionable crusade.
Nelly

Ilion, NY

#58 Oct 14, 2012
Frosty Pitcher wrote:
What flavor Kool Aid is being served?
I don't know but I hope its got lots of sugar, I can't stand the diet kind.
sad folks

New Hartford, NY

#59 Oct 14, 2012
To say they are a cult? Ridiculous! To say that person posted that link as a warning? Absurd! No one is being asked for money or to invest in anything besides their health and community. If you knew anything at all about the Murnions or the Community Center, you would know what they promote and practice -kindness, positivity, community... what is bad about this? NOTHING! Instead of sitting on your asses, throwing out criticism - I take a walk to SCF, meet them or any of us changing our lives. Educate yourselves on what's going on there and you will be happily suprised with what you find. I don't care how nany articles you dig up from wherever - the Murnions are making more positive contributions to our community that anyone in a very long time! That is what's happening NOW! NOW is all that matters!
funny

Little Falls, NY

#60 Oct 14, 2012
sad folks wrote:
To say they are a cult? Ridiculous! To say that person posted that link as a warning? Absurd! No one is being asked for money or to invest in anything besides their health and community. If you knew anything at all about the Murnions or the Community Center, you would know what they promote and practice -kindness, positivity, community... what is bad about this? NOTHING! Instead of sitting on your asses, throwing out criticism - I take a walk to SCF, meet them or any of us changing our lives. Educate yourselves on what's going on there and you will be happily suprised with what you find. I don't care how nany articles you dig up from wherever - the Murnions are making more positive contributions to our community that anyone in a very long time! That is what's happening NOW! NOW is all that matters!
Educate yourself!!!! People are just saying be careful-they are taking ppls money and I'm sure that the next thing coming is how much grant(free) money can we get to do this or that? Especially if they have scammed people before in the past!!!!Just saying be aware....
Curious

Boston, MA

#61 Oct 14, 2012
sad folks wrote:
To say they are a cult? Ridiculous! To say that person posted that link as a warning? Absurd! No one is being asked for money or to invest in anything besides their health and community. If you knew anything at all about the Murnions or the Community Center, you would know what they promote and practice -kindness, positivity, community... what is bad about this? NOTHING! Instead of sitting on your asses, throwing out criticism - I take a walk to SCF, meet them or any of us changing our lives. Educate yourselves on what's going on there and you will be happily suprised with what you find. I don't care how nany articles you dig up from wherever - the Murnions are making more positive contributions to our community that anyone in a very long time! That is what's happening NOW! NOW is all that matters!
You are wrong they are looking for money. I bet the people they took advantage of before thought they were doing good things. Have we not learned from.our past mistakes of people coming in and making all sorts of promises that have been left unfulfilled. What do we really even know about these people besides that they helped some overweight people lose weight with money which was paid for by DONATIONS from area businesses?
buyer beware

Boston, MA

#62 Oct 14, 2012
Frosty Pitcher

Long Eddy, NY

#63 Oct 14, 2012
buyer beware wrote:
http://m.helenair.com/mobile-t ouch-2/?disableTNStatsTracker= 1&asset=bbb36f80-bd79-5f69 -b735-27ff9b6f12ae#bbb36f80-bd 79-5f69-b735-27ff9b6f12ae
Would you be so kind as to provide this link again? It's not working. Thank you
buyer beware

Boston, MA

#64 Oct 14, 2012
It can be found on Helenair.com . It is an entire article on how he and his wife ripped people off. Insurance fraud etc.
Frosty Pitcher

Long Eddy, NY

#65 Oct 14, 2012
buyer beware wrote:
It can be found on Helenair.com . It is an entire article on how he and his wife ripped people off. Insurance fraud etc.
Thanks so much. You have to put keywords in to find the article - type his name in. I have to tell you, I was really taken aback.

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