Oprah

United States

#1 Jun 18, 2014
With vacation and personal time firefighters work 91 days a year receive full benefits great pensions amazing pay they have plenty of time to open small businesses or work other jobs they tend to be wealthy there are years in the ridge that there isn't even one fire

Since: May 14

Matteson, IL

#2 Jun 18, 2014
Oprah wrote:
With vacation and personal time firefighters work 91 days a year receive full benefits great pensions amazing pay they have plenty of time to open small businesses or work other jobs they tend to be wealthy there are years in the ridge that there isn't even one fire
It's a proven fact that the stresses of a fireman or police officer strips years off your entire life, time you can never get back. Also, firemen work 24 hours straight and then two days off. Do the math and see how many days a year that equates to when dividing by 8 hours. Remember, everybody finds reasons to complain until you need somebody to risk their lives like a fireman or police officer!!
Mean streets cr

United States

#3 Jun 19, 2014
Don't lump, firefighters and police together. Police have it a lot tougher.
Sister Zealia

Tinley Park, IL

#4 Jun 19, 2014
I don't care how much firefighters and police are making, they are not RICH.

A little perspective ...

Using the Forbes 400 list for 2013, we see that the wealth of six of Sam Walton’s descendants continues to grow.

Here are their rankings and their wealth:

No. 6 Christy Walton (daughter-in-law),$35.4 billion

No. 7: Jim Walton (son),$33.8 billion

No. 8: Alice Walton (daughter),$33.5 billion

No. 9: S. Robson Walton (son),$33.3 billion

No. 95: Ann Walton Kroenke (niece),$4.7 billion

No. 110: Nancy Walton Laurie (niece),$4 billion

Total Walton family wealth:$144.7 billion.

The Walton family owns more wealth than the bottom 40 percent of America. That's RICH!
Sister Zealia

Tinley Park, IL

#5 Jun 19, 2014
Firefighters, police, and teachers provide a valuable service for the community and should be paid a good salary. These people then spend that money in the community, which stimulate economic growth ... small businesses thrive, more jobs are created, property values rise.

In contrast, Walmart wages are so low that many of its workers rely on food stamps and other government aid programs to fulfill their basic needs. This actually costs taxpayers as much as $900,000 for just one Walmart Supercenter. The money that Walmart makes goes to a handful of super rich people who accumulate it in off shore accounts where they can keep from paying taxes on it. It doesn't stimulate the local economy, just the opposite, it causes the local economy to stall ... small busineses close, jobs are lost, and property values go down.

Think about that the next time you are shopping at Walmart.
Marcos

Chicago, IL

#6 Jun 19, 2014
Sister Zealia wrote:
Firefighters, police, and teachers provide a valuable service for the community and should be paid a good salary. These people then spend that money in the community, which stimulate economic growth ... small businesses thrive, more jobs are created, property values rise.
In contrast, Walmart wages are so low that many of its workers rely on food stamps and other government aid programs to fulfill their basic needs. This actually costs taxpayers as much as $900,000 for just one Walmart Supercenter. The money that Walmart makes goes to a handful of super rich people who accumulate it in off shore accounts where they can keep from paying taxes on it. It doesn't stimulate the local economy, just the opposite, it causes the local economy to stall ... small busineses close, jobs are lost, and property values go down.
Think about that the next time you are shopping at Walmart.
If you want to make more than Walmart wages... Go to school and get an education. Nobody is forced to work at Walmart.
Sister Zealia

Tinley Park, IL

#7 Jun 19, 2014
Marcos wrote:
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If you want to make more than Walmart wages... Go to school and get an education. Nobody is forced to work at Walmart.
LOL ... Thanks, but I have an education and I don't work for Walmart.

But getting an education is a great idea. In your case I suggest a program to improve your reading and comprehension skills.

Since: May 14

Matteson, IL

#8 Jun 19, 2014
Mean streets cr wrote:
Don't lump, firefighters and police together. Police have it a lot tougher.
Obviously police have a tougher job, but firemen put their lives on the line with each fire they respond to. If your profession requires you to take risks that involve your life, you should be well compensated.
Axel FoolMe

Midlothian, IL

#9 Jun 19, 2014
Jews
anonymous

Midlothian, IL

#10 Jun 20, 2014
Sister Zealia wrote:
Firefighters, police, and teachers provide a valuable service for the community and should be paid a good salary. These people then spend that money in the community, which stimulate economic growth ... small businesses thrive, more jobs are created, property values rise.
Your first sentence is right on target, but to assume these people spend their money in the same municipality they earned it from? I can think of quite a few police officers in Midlothian who don't live anywhere near this community, let alone teachers (one at OFHS commutes from downtown Chicago).

Also, what helps small businesses thrive is acquiring traffic from consumers who do not live in the same community, i.e. the business is considered a destination location. Midlothian does not have any true destination locations to patronize, let alone promote, as our business mix is heavy on state/national chain stores similar to that of Walgreens, CVS, McDonald's, Harris Bank and even Title Max and a handful of niche businesses that tend to succeed in virtually any type of community, such as beauty salons, restaurants/pizza, etc.

Therefore, if we were to apply your formula of avoiding the businesses owned "rich people," Midlothian would lose a significant chunk of its potential income...no matter how many ways and means a company uses to transfer the money to and from a storefront.

Do police and fire personnel deserve wages that can provide them a decent quality of life when they are not on the job? You bet! To attempt to bag and tag them as "rich" in the negative because of how they choose to invest their money and time? That doesn't mean they are lazy and their job positions are unneeded. It means they are willing to take risks with their income in the hopes of building more wealth, something many people are unwilling to do for a variety of reasons.

Too bad the original post had absolutely nothing to do with Midlothian and was just a generic rant thrown into our community boards.
Sister Zealia

Tinley Park, IL

#11 Jun 20, 2014
anonymous wrote:
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Therefore, if we were to apply your formula of avoiding the businesses owned "rich people," Midlothian would lose a significant chunk of its potential income...no matter how many ways and means a company uses to transfer the money to and from a storefront.
I don't recall offering a "formula" of avoiding businesses owned by "rich people". I was only pointing out how having a Walmart in a community actually contributes NEGATIVELY to the local ecomomy.
Mean streets cr

Portage, MI

#12 Jun 20, 2014
Chicago Ridge hasn't had a fire in two years please give our out-of-town firefighters a big honking raise . 91 days a year. But when there's there most of the time is spent, eating, sleeping, watching TV, or perhaps doing some paperwork related to their outside businesses. Give me more more more.
BooHoo

Chicago, IL

#13 Jun 20, 2014
Cops have a hard job lol, that is funny! they risk their live to save yours bla bla bla,

It must be hard shaking down the citiczens and running red lights to make it to the local dunkin donuts.

Shot first and ask questions later, that is the police nowadays they walk around in military gear and push the people around with facking arrogant attitudes. They are not like police of yesteryears where they were respected and liked and actually helped people.

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