Teen Club Owner Wants to Go Country, ...

Teen Club Owner Wants to Go Country, Hopes You'll Love This Bar

There are 24 comments on the Patch.com story from Apr 27, 2014, titled Teen Club Owner Wants to Go Country, Hopes You'll Love This Bar. In it, Patch.com reports that:

The doors of a vacant teen nite club might soon swing open again-but as a country saloon.

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Joe

Tinley Park, IL

#1 Apr 28, 2014
It's been years since I've been in there. I remember it being small. I like the idea of a country bar but I don't know about this venue. It's just bad luck and the area is changing. I remember before Food 4 Less went in, it was a entertainment venue with several bars including a country bar. We will see.
Really

Oak Forest, IL

#2 Apr 28, 2014
Thought it was a Dominick's, and an Eagle before the new plaza was built in that site. I don't remember any Bars there.
Random Thoughts

Hanover Park, IL

#3 Apr 28, 2014
Is this the same building that was due to have a whole deal of overhaul on it? I believe before the Teen Club opened it was supposed to have Sprinklers placed in that building, did the city ever enforce that requirement? If our city would only enforce the building and zoning codes with a little more vigor I would think that we could attract more development! Now that it is going to be a Cowboy Bar, I guess the building codes don't have to be followed, construction has be ongoing for a while there, but I have yet to see any building permits for that building, I guess if the rules only need to apply to some folks and not all. Again I guess my question is "How Much Sales Tax Revenue is Generated from a new Tavern." Bring in another Tavern it is another business you can promote for the Fleadh, the Irish Cowboy Bar.
whoa

Forest Park, IL

#4 Apr 28, 2014
Didn't the owner and the Mayor swear to God when the teen club opened that this place would never request or receive a liquor license? Sounds like Hank told the guy "just wait a year and you will get your license". Typical Oak Forest lies.
chlo

United States

#5 Apr 28, 2014
did the teen bar ever even open. The country bar has the old mayor Malecy involved. more cash down the drain on that location, horrible surroundings. Oak Forest is falling apart fast.
Res

Chicago, IL

#6 Apr 28, 2014
Random Thoughts wrote:
Is this the same building that was due to have a whole deal of overhaul on it? I believe before the Teen Club opened it was supposed to have Sprinklers placed in that building, did the city ever enforce that requirement? If our city would only enforce the building and zoning codes with a little more vigor I would think that we could attract more development! Now that it is going to be a Cowboy Bar, I guess the building codes don't have to be followed, construction has be ongoing for a while there, but I have yet to see any building permits for that building, I guess if the rules only need to apply to some folks and not all. Again I guess my question is "How Much Sales Tax Revenue is Generated from a new Tavern." Bring in another Tavern it is another business you can promote for the Fleadh, the Irish Cowboy Bar.
The Mayor promised the teen club would never have a license. The teen club is gone, and the new tavern has requested a license. So what? The work requested by the city has been, or will be completed before the bar opens. The entire building will be brought up to code, of course you won't know being as you are to stupid to know one code from another. Personally, I look forward to a country bar, and wish the owners much success.
Kathy Rogge

Oak Forest, IL

#7 Apr 28, 2014
Back in the early 90's Silverado's Steak House was located in the plaza where Food For Less is, it had amazing food and line dancing, but when Country got less popular it closed. Now Country is popular again so we shall see...
JJR

Tinley Park, IL

#8 Apr 29, 2014
There was a Country bar, a dance club and a Sports Bar in the spot where Food 4 Less is.,it was a Dominick's after the bars closed.
Good thing

Oak Forest, IL

#9 Apr 29, 2014
It was The Blue Note before Silverado's Saloon &Steak House.
Random Thoughts

Hanover Park, IL

#10 Apr 29, 2014
Res wrote:
<quoted text>The Mayor promised the teen club would never have a license. The teen club is gone, and the new tavern has requested a license. So what? The work requested by the city has been, or will be completed before the bar opens. The entire building will be brought up to code, of course you won't know being as you are to stupid to know one code from another. Personally, I look forward to a country bar, and wish the owners much success.
So I guess you are the expert on all things Building Code in Oak Forest is that correct? If you would like to train the rest of us please feel free to let us know when the classes will be ready for attendance. As far as any indication of my intelligence or lack there of is an interesting way to approach this discussion, since the city did not have to do any background check for a teen club, but wonder if they will do one now that there will be a Cowboy bar. If you believe this is a great advancement in the "Upgrade" of the city's image then great for that, I really think that when someone starts building they really need to have the correct paperwork and not just an OK to proceed from city Administration, since an old mayor may have some interest in this business. You should not just tell the Building Department Director, "We were given the approval to proceed." That really smacks of the same old Good Old Boy, way Oak Forest has lived and died with in all past and present history! I hope also a business can come in and be successful, but I hope they do it the correct way. Oak Forest is a town that cannot continue to proceed with the "Good Old Boy" way of doing things, we have to be better than that old way of doing it! Any debate about any intelligence of you or I is not even needed in the process, but if you want to debate that issue we can certainly continue to debate that! When the Kuspa Regime came on to serve the community this way of business was going to change, but I guess with your attacks on intelligence of opinions you just really make the point of needing to change the way these actions happen!
Res

Chicago, IL

#11 Apr 29, 2014
Random Thoughts wrote:
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So I guess you are the expert on all things Building Code in Oak Forest is that correct? If you would like to train the rest of us please feel free to let us know when the classes will be ready for attendance. As far as any indication of my intelligence or lack there of is an interesting way to approach this discussion, since the city did not have to do any background check for a teen club, but wonder if they will do one now that there will be a Cowboy bar. If you believe this is a great advancement in the "Upgrade" of the city's image then great for that, I really think that when someone starts building they really need to have the correct paperwork and not just an OK to proceed from city Administration, since an old mayor may have some interest in this business. You should not just tell the Building Department Director, "We were given the approval to proceed." That really smacks of the same old Good Old Boy, way Oak Forest has lived and died with in all past and present history! I hope also a business can come in and be successful, but I hope they do it the correct way. Oak Forest is a town that cannot continue to proceed with the "Good Old Boy" way of doing things, we have to be better than that old way of doing it! Any debate about any intelligence of you or I is not even needed in the process, but if you want to debate that issue we can certainly continue to debate that! When the Kuspa Regime came on to serve the community this way of business was going to change, but I guess with your attacks on intelligence of opinions you just really make the point of needing to change the way these actions happen!
You can dress it up any way you want, but you still don't know what you are talking about., and to post without facts makes you stupid. There is no permit required until actual construction begins. I was a state certified building inspector for more than fifteen tears in another community, that makes me smarter than you, and why would I try to teach someone who is incapable of learning? There is no construction going on now, only cleaning unnecessary stuff out, and bringing some stuff in, and basic cleanup. They are still getting drawings drawn up, and as soon as they have them they will apply for a permit. The sprinkler system that was required to be installed for Oxygen within a year(they went belly up before that)will still have to be installed. I guess if you had your way the city would have a law that no former Official would be allowed to conduct business in town, even though they do have constitutional rights, but that would not bother a jerk like you. Perhaps you should contact the building Dept. as I did so you don't have to make ignotant posts, you might even stop in the bar as I did to see what is really going on. I have a hunch you were either turned down for a job, or fired from the city, maybe for being a bully.
Random Thoughts

Hanover Park, IL

#12 Apr 30, 2014
Res wrote:
<quoted text>You can dress it up any way you want, but you still don't know what you are talking about., and to post without facts makes you stupid. There is no permit required until actual construction begins. I was a state certified building inspector for more than fifteen tears in another community, that makes me smarter than you, and why would I try to teach someone who is incapable of learning? There is no construction going on now, only cleaning unnecessary stuff out, and bringing some stuff in, and basic cleanup. They are still getting drawings drawn up, and as soon as they have them they will apply for a permit. The sprinkler system that was required to be installed for Oxygen within a year(they went belly up before that)will still have to be installed. I guess if you had your way the city would have a law that no former Official would be allowed to conduct business in town, even though they do have constitutional rights, but that would not bother a jerk like you. Perhaps you should contact the building Dept. as I did so you don't have to make ignotant posts, you might even stop in the bar as I did to see what is really going on. I have a hunch you were either turned down for a job, or fired from the city, maybe for being a bully.
Your are correct about your assumption that there was not any construction going on, but when I visually witnessed construction materials being brought into and out of the facility I would just have to question if the construction process already started? Also, I never talked about any former Official conducting business, so I guess you do know much more than you are leading on about! I don't really care much about you attacks, the point is all businesses need to follow the same rules, if certain people are allowed to make their own rules in this town, then Garages start to fall on other buildings! I love this dialogue you & I are having it is great when someone knows more than all the rest of us, but I am also sad that you will not use your vast expertise to help the rest of us understand why some rules need to be followed by only a few and some folks don't have to follow the same rules? You don't need to answer, I would not want to continue to be the "bully" here. I hope this business gets going so I can attend an opening of some establishment in this town! Let's just hope that it doesn't go the same way as VIP or Oxygen!
Res

Chicago, IL

#13 Apr 30, 2014
Random Thoughts wrote:
<quoted text>
Your are correct about your assumption that there was not any construction going on, but when I visually witnessed construction materials being brought into and out of the facility I would just have to question if the construction process already started? Also, I never talked about any former Official conducting business, so I guess you do know much more than you are leading on about! I don't really care much about you attacks, the point is all businesses need to follow the same rules, if certain people are allowed to make their own rules in this town, then Garages start to fall on other buildings! I love this dialogue you & I are having it is great when someone knows more than all the rest of us, but I am also sad that you will not use your vast expertise to help the rest of us understand why some rules need to be followed by only a few and some folks don't have to follow the same rules? You don't need to answer, I would not want to continue to be the "bully" here. I hope this business gets going so I can attend an opening of some establishment in this town! Let's just hope that it doesn't go the same way as VIP or Oxygen!
Would you please be specific as to who exactly is getting preferential treatment, if this is happening I would be happy to join with you and do something about it, please name names? All of your previous attemps at character assasination of the building department and the administrstion have been shown to be lies, do you wish to contiue down this path of falsehoods, or give up? BTW, you did mention the former Mayor Malecky, he is a former official. You just showed your lack of knowledge of what happened in the past, no garage fell on a house, just the opposite, the house fell on a garage. He made a huge mistake, but the building department caught it and he had to rectofy it, cost himself a bundle of money, but the neighbors ended up with a new garage and were very happy when it was all over.
Res

Chicago, IL

#14 Apr 30, 2014
Random Thoughts wrote:
<quoted text>
So I guess you are the expert on all things Building Code in Oak Forest is that correct? If you would like to train the rest of us please feel free to let us know when the classes will be ready for attendance. As far as any indication of my intelligence or lack there of is an interesting way to approach this discussion, since the city did not have to do any background check for a teen club, but wonder if they will do one now that there will be a Cowboy bar. If you believe this is a great advancement in the "Upgrade" of the city's image then great for that, I really think that when someone starts building they really need to have the correct paperwork and not just an OK to proceed from city Administration, since an old mayor may have some interest in this business. You should not just tell the Building Department Director, "We were given the approval to proceed." That really smacks of the same old Good Old Boy, way Oak Forest has lived and died with in all past and present history! I hope also a business can come in and be successful, but I hope they do it the correct way. Oak Forest is a town that cannot continue to proceed with the "Good Old Boy" way of doing things, we have to be better than that old way of doing it! Any debate about any intelligence of you or I is not even needed in the process, but if you want to debate that issue we can certainly continue to debate that! When the Kuspa Regime came on to serve the community this way of business was going to change, but I guess with your attacks on intelligence of opinions you just really make the point of needing to change the way these actions happen!
Once again in this post you state a falsehood. There was a background check done on Oxygen, but contrary to rumor the owner was clear, investigators don't go by rumor. Background checks on persons listed on a liquor license are required by state law, and will be done.
Gina

Frankfort, IL

#15 Jun 20, 2014
I'm really excited about this new venue as well as my entire circle of friends. In order to go to a decent country bar we have to drive at least 30 to 45 minutes away. Country music, I'm happy to say is on a steady rise and this type of bar is needed in our area. I'm just really happy I won't have to drive far for good country atmosphere!!! Can't wait for it to open!!!!

Since: May 14

Matteson, IL

#16 Jun 21, 2014
Gina wrote:
I'm really excited about this new venue as well as my entire circle of friends. In order to go to a decent country bar we have to drive at least 30 to 45 minutes away. Country music, I'm happy to say is on a steady rise and this type of bar is needed in our area. I'm just really happy I won't have to drive far for good country atmosphere!!! Can't wait for it to open!!!!
I heard about this bar. Where and when is it supposed to open?
Res

Chicago, IL

#17 Jun 21, 2014
Welfare Country wrote:
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I heard about this bar. Where and when is it supposed to open?
I don't believe they have set a date yet, I'm sure when they decide you will know. The Bar is on the Northwest corner of 159th & Laramie in Oak Forest.

Since: May 14

Matteson, IL

#18 Jun 21, 2014
Res wrote:
<quoted text>I don't believe they have set a date yet, I'm sure when they decide you will know. The Bar is on the Northwest corner of 159th & Laramie in Oak Forest.
Thanks
John

South Holland, IL

#19 Nov 10, 2014
Welfare Country wrote:
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I heard about this bar. Where and when is it supposed to open?
sign out front says tonight is opening night!
Country gal

United States

#20 Nov 30, 2014
So what do all the naysayers have to say now? Seems pretty quiet. The place has been packed!
Joe wrote:
It's been years since I've been in there. I remember it being small. I like the idea of a country bar but I don't know about this venue. It's just bad luck and the area is changing. I remember before Food 4 Less went in, it was a entertainment venue with several bars including a country bar. We will see.

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