Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

Nov 30, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: CBS2

The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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However, my point has been that in regards to divorce, abortion and now the desecration of marriage, the Church is being pressured to be silent about an issues that every time the Court system has intervened there have been horrendous unintended consequences for children. This IS an interest and business of the Church in society!
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You confuse my words. I don't condemn homosexuality as a orientation.
No law restrains the Church from being censored from public free speech. In fact, the Constitution puts the bulk of restraint on the government!
Politics and the public platform are two distinct things.
Does a church of lets say this...CHURCH OF EVERLASTING GAYNESS....Does that church have same rights as your church?

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No, it is a very rational discretion.
It is a mindless rationalization to justify your own bigoted hypocrisy. You say you are not judging, and then immediately prove that you are lying by passing judgment.
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You are equating a political candidate to any public discourse. Fail.
No, I am saying that political participation by any church is highly regulated, and could jeopardize their tax exempt status, which is a matter of fact.
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Your opinion is 0 for 2.
In your opinion.
I Won't judge yours, as their lack of rational foundation is self apparent.

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It is a mindless rationalization to justify your own bigoted hypocrisy. You say you are not judging, and then immediately prove that you are lying by passing judgment.
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No, I am saying that political participation by any church is highly regulated, and could jeopardize their tax exempt status, which is a matter of fact.
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In your opinion.
I Won't judge yours, as their lack of rational foundation is self apparent.
I never said I don't judge. I do.

I did say, I don't condemn a orientation, I judge a behavior.

I wasn't talking about political discourse, I was always talking about public discourse.

You were deceptively trying to equate the two to deceive.

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I never said I don't judge. I do.
Actually, you have said just that.
"Actually, I don't judge homosexuality."
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/gay/TLJ1SRB73...
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I did say, I don't condemn a orientation, I judge a behavior.
Since the two cannot be separated, you do judge the person, which makes you a hypocrite.
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I wasn't talking about political discourse, I was always talking about public discourse.
"No law restrains the Church from being censored from public free speech. In fact, the Constitution puts the bulk of restraint on the government!"
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/gay/TLJ1SRB73...

If the church is making free public speech about political issues, then they can be in violation of their tax exempt status. Individuals may speak freely, institutions are not people, and don't have the same privilege. Ergo, a pastor can express his personal opinion freely concerning a political topic, because they are a citizen with a right to free speech, however they may not do so in their official capacity as a minister of the church.

Clearly you are drinking the citizens united "corporations are people" kool aide
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You were deceptively trying to equate the two to deceive.
No, I was merely trying to keep you on topic, but it appears that you are interested in nothing but spin and trying to roll back the inept comments you have already made.

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Actually, you have said just that.
"Actually, I don't judge homosexuality."
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/gay/TLJ1SRB73...
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Since the two cannot be separated, you do judge the person, which makes you a hypocrite.
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"No law restrains the Church from being censored from public free speech. In fact, the Constitution puts the bulk of restraint on the government!"
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/gay/TLJ1SRB73...
If the church is making free public speech about political issues, then they can be in violation of their tax exempt status. Individuals may speak freely, institutions are not people, and don't have the same privilege. Ergo, a pastor can express his personal opinion freely concerning a political topic, because they are a citizen with a right to free speech, however they may not do so in their official capacity as a minister of the church.
Clearly you are drinking the citizens united "corporations are people" kool aide
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No, I was merely trying to keep you on topic, but it appears that you are interested in nothing but spin and trying to roll back the inept comments you have already made.
However, this still remains;

At the most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

Ss couples are a defective complete failure of mating behavior, making ss marriage an oxymoron.

That's not judgment, that's fact.

Smile.
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However, this still remains;
At the most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Ss couples are a defective complete failure of mating behavior, making ss marriage an oxymoron.
That's not judgment, that's fact.
Smile.
You old farts will soon be dead and same sex marriage will be legal in all 50 states real soon.

SMILE!!!!!!!!

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You old farts will soon be dead and same sex marriage will be legal in all 50 states real soon.
SMILE!!!!!!!!
Just make sure you sign up for ObamaCare so you can pay to keep me alive!

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Just make sure you sign up for ObamaCare so you can pay to keep me alive!
LOL
No need I have my own insurance. Oh and medicare covers you old farts.

Now when you die in a few years die knowing your hate and bigotry dies with you old farts. Most people under 40 support SSM and find nothing wrong with it...BYE.

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However, this still remains;
At the most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Ss couples are a defective complete failure of mating behavior, making ss marriage an oxymoron.
That's not judgment, that's fact.
Smile.
Actually, it's not a fact. It is a claim made by a person who is not very intelligent.

a) Marriage is a legal contract to secure certain rights and protections.
b) Procreation is neither a prerequisite for, nor a requirement of legal marriage.
c) Infertile heterosexual couples are regularly allowed to legally marry.

You seem to have great difficulty in understanding what is factual. You certainly seem to have no clue what is rational.

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Actually, it's not a fact. It is a claim made by a person who is not very intelligent.
a) Marriage is a legal contract to secure certain rights and protections.
b) Procreation is neither a prerequisite for, nor a requirement of legal marriage.
c) Infertile heterosexual couples are regularly allowed to legally marry.
You seem to have great difficulty in understanding what is factual. You certainly seem to have no clue what is rational.
And after all that mumbo jumbo pontification?

A ss couple is still only ever a mutually sterile, pointlessly duplicate gendered half of marriage.
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And after all that mumbo jumbo pontification?
A ss couple is still only ever a mutually sterile, pointlessly duplicate gendered half of marriage.
Still no reason to suspend gay peoples civil rights.

Anyway soon you old farts will be dead.

SMILE!!!!!

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And after all that mumbo jumbo pontification?
A ss couple is still only ever a mutually sterile, pointlessly duplicate gendered half of marriage.
Which is still utterly irrelevant to a discussion of equal protection of the law for all.

Have you noticed how you didn't even attempt to offer a rational rebuttal?

Get help. You need it.

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And after all that mumbo jumbo pontification?
A ss couple is still only ever a mutually sterile, pointlessly duplicate gendered half of marriage.
Says the queen of pontification and verbosity.
No matter, when we file our taxes this year, the IRS won't be asking for your opinion on the validity of our union.

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Which is still utterly irrelevant to a discussion of equal protection of the law for all.
Have you noticed how you didn't even attempt to offer a rational rebuttal?
Get help. You need it.
Which is still utterly irrelevant to the reality that a ss couple is a counterfeit marriage obtained by fraud and denial.

Have you noticed how you don't even attempt to deal with reality?

Get help, you need it.

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Says the queen of pontification and verbosity.
No matter, when we file our taxes this year, the IRS won't be asking for your opinion on the validity of our union.
When you file your taxes, think of the mothers and children who are deprived of resources by two grown men pretending to deserve the same protections and rights.
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When you file your taxes, think of the mothers and children who are deprived of resources by two grown men pretending to deserve the same protections and rights.
90% of the time you demonic far righters want children cut off and starved to death..Why care now .

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90% of the time you demonic far righters want children cut off and starved to death..Why care now .
No one does more personally to care for children than conservatives. Liberals want to take that away and give government oversight.

duh.
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No one does more personally to care for children than conservatives. Liberals want to take that away and give government oversight.
duh.
CONSERVATIVES CUT WELFARE CUT FOOD STAMPS WANT MEDICAL CARE KEPT FORM POOR PEOPLES HANDS. AND conservatives are ones who always want minimum wage lowered or did away with.

OH YEA BIG HEARTS THERE VILE DEMONS.

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CONSERVATIVES CUT WELFARE CUT FOOD STAMPS WANT MEDICAL CARE KEPT FORM POOR PEOPLES HANDS. AND conservatives are ones who always want minimum wage lowered or did away with.
OH YEA BIG HEARTS THERE VILE DEMONS.
Liberals put half the country on food stamps, most of the country out of work and are taxes the rest to the same place.

While they skim the bulk off the top for themselves and their friends.

Duh.
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Liberals put half the country on food stamps, most of the country out of work and are taxes the rest to the same place.
While they skim the bulk off the top for themselves and their friends.
Duh.
NO GREED RICH GOP VOTERS WHO OUT SOURCED JOBS DID THAT IDIOT.....

Yes the rich GOP types did make a a lot of people out of work by out of work by outsourcing.

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