Tinley Park ponders ambulance contract

Tinley Park ponders ambulance contract

There are 40 comments on the Daily Southtown News story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Tinley Park ponders ambulance contract . In it, Daily Southtown News reports that:

A Tinley Park Village Board committee is considering whether to recommend renewing Trace Ambulance's contract or seek bids from other companies.

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Chitownmedic

Chicago, IL

#21 Jul 9, 2012
Duh wrote:
EMS geek what Bettenhausen are you referring too? Mike-Just as in any other town if an ambulance is out of town and one is needed another town will come to your town it is called mutual aide. Sounds to me like a few people that have no idea what the actual facts are and would rather spread rumor....
They don't ask for Mutual Aid. They do have something going on under the table out there in Tinley. I worked for them for years & they do not provide adequate coverage or professional service for that matter. I think it comes from the attitudes thyat most will be working for Chicago Fire & they start developing a ghetto attitude of in-difference towards their patients. Not all of the Trace people are like that, but the majority are from the way they get looked down upon by the upper Management. What do you expect from an Ambulance service that pays their people $11.75 an hour & expects them to provide quality care on a critically injured/ill patient in Van Ambulances that have very little room to work in ?!?
Chitownmedic

Chicago, IL

#22 Jul 9, 2012
caution when passing wrote:
If they keep these private ambulance, could they please install the octigan in them so the traffic lights will change (Green) for them when they approach an intersection.. Every other emergency vehicle has them, why not Trace ?
'Opticom' device or Pre-emptor device by Whylan Industries. BUD's has them but Trace don't wanna pay the $1300 it costs & that's the cheap one's that stick onto the windshield with the suction cups.
9-5

United States

#23 Jul 9, 2012
A lot of the issues would be solved if TP had ALS equipment on their engines and were dispatched with a trace ambulance to medical emergencies.
Tinley dog cop

Chicago, IL

#24 Jul 9, 2012
Or a lot can be solved if the fire dept. had a say in EMS. You see that is run by Tinley Parks EMA cause the OLD guard that oversees the Tinley Park FD is too much of a dinosaur to want to even touch EMS. It's not 1978 anymore, get with the times or GET OUT! Its funny how none of this is mentioned on Tinleys website! So if you got a complaint about Trace call Pat Carr. What a joke!
Medic

Blue Island, IL

#25 Jul 24, 2012
I have been a paramedic for 15 yrs for a private ambulance the very one that you are all bashing. Don't judge us just because we work for a private ambulance. Maybe I choose not to be on a fire department. It funny because probably one- third of our paramedics work for fire departments part time waiting on the day they will be hired on. For the people that have had a bad experience with trace. I truly feel sorry that you have had a bad experience. There is good and bad in every occupation out there. It's a shame what a bad rap we get because personally I can't help but take it on a personal level. I have held a lifeless infant in my hands and brought that infant back to life, I have had a child burned in a house fire. I have been on the scene of a mass murder. I have sat with a family whose 60 yr old father, son and husband was terminally Ill as they say goodbye to him. I have seen the best and worse of society. And just because I don't have an FD on my ambulance I'm less of a medic? Really. Let me judge you even though I don't know you? Really? There is good and bad everywhere. We have all scene it. Boy and for all those FD FF out there that continuously bash privates. have you seen the news about orland FD it's the second pedifiler on that department. Ther was a murderer on cfd embesslers by fire chiefs Grass isn't always greener on the other side. The fact is you never know who is showing up at your door but please give them the benefit of the doubt. I can personally say I have take pride in my job and do my very best. I'm not perfect but I'm a damn good paramedic. I have the same license as any FD paramedic.
9-5

United States

#26 Jul 24, 2012
Medic wrote:
I have been a paramedic for 15 yrs for a private ambulance the very one that you are all bashing. Don't judge us just because we work for a private ambulance. Maybe I choose not to be on a fire department. It funny because probably one- third of our paramedics work for fire departments part time waiting on the day they will be hired on. For the people that have had a bad experience with trace. I truly feel sorry that you have had a bad experience. There is good and bad in every occupation out there. It's a shame what a bad rap we get because personally I can't help but take it on a personal level. I have held a lifeless infant in my hands and brought that infant back to life, I have had a child burned in a house fire. I have been on the scene of a mass murder. I have sat with a family whose 60 yr old father, son and husband was terminally Ill as they say goodbye to him. I have seen the best and worse of society. And just because I don't have an FD on my ambulance I'm less of a medic? Really. Let me judge you even though I don't know you? Really? There is good and bad everywhere. We have all scene it. Boy and for all those FD FF out there that continuously bash privates. have you seen the news about orland FD it's the second pedifiler on that department. Ther was a murderer on cfd embesslers by fire chiefs Grass isn't always greener on the other side. The fact is you never know who is showing up at your door but please give them the benefit of the doubt. I can personally say I have take pride in my job and do my very best. I'm not perfect but I'm a damn good paramedic. I have the same license as any FD paramedic.
Medic
If you read the posts, you would notice that most of the posts are not bashing the medics. They are bashing the tpfd and trace management. You know in your 15 years that trace takes dedicated rigs that are meant for tinley park and make them run a quick nursing home or a dialysis run. That is pure greed that they are willing to take away an ambulance in tp for a quick buck. My problem is with the fd. I want them to have als equipment so they can assist trace on calls. You don't need to be so defensive. I'm glad you take a lot of pride in what you do, but no one was calling you(medics) out.
Mow Man

Chicago, IL

#27 Jul 24, 2012
Medic wrote:
I have been a paramedic for 15 yrs for a private ambulance the very one that you are all bashing. Don't judge us just because we work for a private ambulance. Maybe I choose not to be on a fire department. It funny because probably one- third of our paramedics work for fire departments part time waiting on the day they will be hired on. For the people that have had a bad experience with trace. I truly feel sorry that you have had a bad experience. There is good and bad in every occupation out there. It's a shame what a bad rap we get because personally I can't help but take it on a personal level. I have held a lifeless infant in my hands and brought that infant back to life, I have had a child burned in a house fire. I have been on the scene of a mass murder. I have sat with a family whose 60 yr old father, son and husband was terminally Ill as they say goodbye to him. I have seen the best and worse of society. And just because I don't have an FD on my ambulance I'm less of a medic? Really. Let me judge you even though I don't know you? Really? There is good and bad everywhere. We have all scene it. Boy and for all those FD FF out there that continuously bash privates. have you seen the news about orland FD it's the second pedifiler on that department. Ther was a murderer on cfd embesslers by fire chiefs Grass isn't always greener on the other side. The fact is you never know who is showing up at your door but please give them the benefit of the doubt. I can personally say I have take pride in my job and do my very best. I'm not perfect but I'm a damn good paramedic. I have the same license as any FD paramedic.
Nice post Steve!
Medic

United States

#28 Jul 25, 2012
When tinley park contracted out trace. They didn't contract out certain paramedics. Sure there are stipulations that tinley requires. Overall they are required 4 ambulances in town. There has been numerous instances in which tinley has had more than 4, 911 calls going at once and trace had been able to handle as many as 6 calls at once without calling in mutual aid. Not many municipalities can do that. I don't think there has been a time when tinley park has ever had a call in which trace hasn't been able to respond. Even in major situations such as lane bryant and the ashford house. They have managed to have ambulances in town at all times. Tinley park contracts trace ambulance to respond. Tinley park does not hire individual(tinley medics) to respond. I do become defensive because I show up in a trace ambulance wearing a trace uniform. It's hard not to take it personal. Some of these comments come from former employees but let's remember they are former
employees for a reason. there isn't an employee anywhere that doesn't see problems with there company. Everyone here has a right to there opinion. It is a public forum. But when you bash a company in general it does come down on the employees. In which. Our job can be hard enough as it is. Let our care speak for itself and our patients be the judge of how trace does. I know personally I have made a difference in people lives in a good way and walk away feeling good about the care I provide.
Former EMS

Chicago, IL

#30 Feb 19, 2013
I've worked as a paramedic at trace for about six years and have recently moved on to a different career. I don't recall a single instance where an ambulance from a neighboring town (mutual aid) had to come into tinley park and do their call. Trace takes Tinley extremely serious, they have it adequately staffed, and they grill us on getting to the scene of a call in less than six minutes after it was called in. Trace covers Tinley very well, and their paramedics are just as skilled, and I'd argue even more skilled, than those on Fire Dept's. Also why do all the Fire Dept. people think they're better than people who work on privates? It's ridiculous. Just because your daddy or uncle is a chief or lieutenant and handed you a job when you got a 72% on the test while other people got a 98%. Fire Dept's have become the biggest joke of them all. I think the residents of Tinley are in much better hands with Trace than all the retards who run the town and the TPFD.
Former EMS

Chicago, IL

#31 Feb 19, 2013
And as for the numbnuts who posted earlier saying something like "ohh but at least the TPFD people would care more about the people of Tinley and their hometown and Trace only cares about making money"...etc etc. First of all, not only are a lot of the veteran medics on Trace among the best I've seen, but many of them have been doing it, and serving the people of Tinley, for longer than most of the firefighters on TPFD have been alive. They know the town inside and out, have made relationships with all the "regular" patients, etc...where the TPFD is mostly made up of 21 year old kids who just want to wear their fruity FD shirts out to bars to hit on girls and overexaggerate how they're some kind of "hero" and how they get to fight fires once every two years.
former has no clue

Orland Park, IL

#32 Feb 19, 2013
Last year my mother passed out at the dollar store near Walt's on Harlem. The store called 911 and we waited 10 min. Finally ambulance 2 from Orland Fire showed up and then a Tinley fire engine right behind them. There was no Trace ambulance. Former EMS the ambulance service in Tinley Park is not good.
knower

Chicago, IL

#33 Feb 19, 2013
The fact of the matter is any ambulance in any town that has a mutual aid agreement will come into the agreed town if all ambulances are busy. Tinley has 3 ambulances in town at any one time. Guess how many towns around us have?! 2-3 is your answer. No difference people.
former has no clue wrote:
Last year my mother passed out at the dollar store near Walt's on Harlem. The store called 911 and we waited 10 min. Finally ambulance 2 from Orland Fire showed up and then a Tinley fire engine right behind them. There was no Trace ambulance. Former EMS the ambulance service in Tinley Park is not good.
just me

United States

#34 Feb 19, 2013
If they did this in every town it save a lot of money,
Vulcan

La Grange, IL

#35 Feb 20, 2013
Former EMS wrote:
And as for the numbnuts who posted earlier saying something like "ohh but at least the TPFD people would care more about the people of Tinley and their hometown and Trace only cares about making money"...etc etc. First of all, not only are a lot of the veteran medics on Trace among the best I've seen, but many of them have been doing it, and serving the people of Tinley, for longer than most of the firefighters on TPFD have been alive. They know the town inside and out, have made relationships with all the "regular" patients, etc...where the TPFD is mostly made up of 21 year old kids who just want to wear their fruity FD shirts out to bars to hit on girls and overexaggerate how they're some kind of "hero" and how they get to fight fires once every two years.
A little bit of info is a terrible thing because you actually think you know and then write things like this. The TPFD is NOT made up of "mostly" 21 year old kids. The majority of the TPFD is made up of dedicated and experienced firefighters who have devoted a lifetime to the fire servicd not only in their hometown but a variety of towns throughout the Chicagoland area. And many of these men and women are hero's, by the shear virtue of the willingness they have to do what they do. I am unclear why the likes of people such as yourself find it necessary to attack an individual or groups of individual's like this and generalize and make inaccurate statements. Very childish and immature!!!! Well that's my two cents worth, take it as you will, but I say keep up the good work TPFD!
Romulan

Estero, FL

#36 Feb 20, 2013
What he said! Very true, many have served for 20 plus years.
Knower not knowing

Orland Park, IL

#37 Feb 21, 2013
Dear Knower, the department next door doesnt have 2 or 3 ambulances. 5 als ambualnces and 6 als manned fire companies.

Vulcan you're right. What you failed to mention are alot of the Tinley guys are full time somewhere else and not wet behind the ears.
EMD

Tinley Park, IL

#38 Mar 3, 2014
I used to work in the dispatch at Trace. I'll tell you that they take Tinley seriously. That Tinley phone rings once. You get an ambulance in 6 minutes or less. 6 minutes 30 seconds? Were having a sit down conversation to figure out why that happened and how we're going to prevent it from happening again. Some of the most genuine and hardworking I've ever met in my life were Tinley medics. 2 of those medics saved my little brother. If you had a bad experience, I feel bad for you, but you are the minority.
ticker

Chicago, IL

#39 Mar 9, 2014
I WAS CHARg ED 1000 FOR A RIDE is this standard?
Joseph russo

Harvey, IL

#40 Apr 2, 2014
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sad

Chicago, IL

#41 Apr 23, 2014
Wow, setiously? Alot if these Trace medics trained alot of the surrounding town fire dept medics, Trace does have several employees who been here 15 years plus, and no, the money isnt great but guess what, This shows you how dedicated to ems we are. Some of us don't do it for just the money. Yes, I am a trace medic, been here forever, and I am proud to be here because this company has helped me out so many times. Trace is more like a family to me. We do have our bad seeds but they don't stay around long. As fir sending rigs out if town, guess what, one rig leaves they bring in another. Those ex employees who talk crap, you guys must of done something really stupid because Trace doesn't people unless you really mess up, they try to educate us on how to improve. We have the same education, so what, we choose to work here. I have worked with fd medics who are on Trace part time, most of them are lazy asses, they don't want to do anything. There is a difference in quality of care. For anyone who has bad experiences, on behalf of the company I apologize, please consult with management so they can improve on what went wrong.tpfd, tppd, I commend them on great jobs they do as well, we all need to get along, put your differences aside and remember why you got into this feild.

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