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duh

Blue Island, IL

#1 Feb 27, 2014
http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/231808...
did anyone else see this in the suntimes? no different than the last bunch...
Ethics

Forest Park, IL

#2 Feb 27, 2014
This is the poster child for everything wrong with local politics. With a little luck justice will someday be served. He could be cell-mates with Kellogg of Harvey.
Face it

Midlothian, IL

#3 Feb 27, 2014
Give me more, give me more, that's the name of the game.
When will the voter's get smart? Just make sure that tax bill
is paid on time.
SO WHAT

Chicago, IL

#4 Feb 28, 2014
duh wrote:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/w atchdogs/23180869-452/2-blue-i sland-brothers-in-line-for-6-g overnment-pensions.html
did anyone else see this in the suntimes? no different than the last bunch...
Who cares!
Interesting

Maywood, IL

#5 Feb 28, 2014
"The Ritas are Blue Islandís own version of Chicagoís Daleys."
No Kidding

United States

#6 Feb 28, 2014
Any you know there aren't going to be any laws passed to limit the number of pensions a person can get. Funny Rep. Rita, if you aren't doing it for the pensions, you say you are doing it because you like public service, why did you get a raise? Why don't you donate your salary back? Can't believe you are giving the township the attention it deserves, here's an idea, donate that salary back to the township to help people that are struggling to find one job. Wonder who in the Rita family is going to benefit from the casino.
Ray

Blue Island, IL

#7 Feb 28, 2014
duh wrote:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/w atchdogs/23180869-452/2-blue-i sland-brothers-in-line-for-6-g overnment-pensions.html
did anyone else see this in the suntimes? no different than the last bunch...
Send Bob Rita a message on March 18, 2014. Vote against him.
Developing Story

Maywood, IL

#8 Feb 28, 2014
The fate of Illinois taxpayers will be determined in the 2014 Elections. Voters should back away from the politically connected who failed to use their power for any good. The current unpaid tax bills in Illinois will undoubtedly enslave taxpayers for decades. Spingfield lawmakers are proven failures.
enough

Chicago, IL

#9 Feb 28, 2014
Why do you care if John Rita collects a pension he earned after giving 32 years of his life as a law enforcement officer protecting the people of Cook County ?
If Mayor Vargas feels John Rita is qualified to be the Director of Public Safety, and your elected officials, all 14 of them on the City Council approved the Mayors' choice, then why do you care ?
Please find something useful to do.
Larry

Blue Island, IL

#10 Feb 28, 2014
Bob Rita VOTED to raise our taxes in Springfield, and Calumet Township. Vote Him Out! Have you had enough yet?
Its your money

Blue Island, IL

#11 Feb 28, 2014
enough wrote:
Why do you care if John Rita collects a pension he earned after giving 32 years of his life as a law enforcement officer protecting the people of Cook County ?
If Mayor Vargas feels John Rita is qualified to be the Director of Public Safety, and your elected officials, all 14 of them on the City Council approved the Mayors' choice, then why do you care ?
Please find something useful to do.
We care because a Police Chief has not been appointed. And John Rita is not qualified to be a Police Chief. His qualification,( he donated at least One Thousand Dollars to the BIIP campaign}. He bought his job. The City of Blue Island is still for sale, nothing has changed.
Face it

Midlothian, IL

#12 Feb 28, 2014
Larry wrote:
Bob Rita VOTED to raise our taxes in Springfield, and Calumet Township. Vote Him Out! Have you had enough yet?
Although all of Blue Island is effected by team Rita Unfortunately, only half of Blue Island will have the vote to do this. We have to depend on the Calumet Township side of town to accomplish this.
unopposed

Midlothian, IL

#13 Feb 28, 2014
Ray wrote:
<quoted text>
Send Bob Rita a message on March 18, 2014. Vote against him.
You don;t even realize that he is running unopposed, how do you expect anyone to take serious anything you say.
BI voter

Toledo, OH

#14 Feb 28, 2014
enough wrote:
Why do you care if John Rita collects a pension he earned after giving 32 years of his life as a law enforcement officer protecting the people of Cook County ?
If Mayor Vargas feels John Rita is qualified to be the Director of Public Safety, and your elected officials, all 14 of them on the City Council approved the Mayors' choice, then why do you care ?
Please find something useful to do.
. It is called double .... Triple ... Dipping. Gimme A break ... Another life long politician milking the system. Vargas didn't have a choice in the matter or did the bobble-heads. What happened to merit based hiring ? Give some other qualified people a chance.
LOGIC

Chicago, IL

#15 Feb 28, 2014
Ok, so you want to apply that to Chief McCarthy, Retired U.S. Secret Service, who collects a pension (he earned by the way) for his years of service, who is now a police chief in south suburb ?
You want to apply that to former B.I. Chief,(who collects a pension he earned for 33 years of service) and is now chief in another town ?
You want to apply that to all of the retired commanders from Chicago P.D. who earned their pensions and became chiefs in other towns ?
Point is, it certainly appears perhaps you have a personal problem with the current Director of Public Safety, who spent 30 plus years with the Sheriff's P.D. and earned his pension fair and square, and went on to take another job which he is qualified to handle.
is J.R. supposed to just stay in his house and wait for his' monthly pension.(My only point is this) if a police officer, firefighter, school teacher, etc spends many, many years in their position and earns their pension, then who are you, me, or anyone to say those people are not qualified or do not have a right to serve in another capacity in which they spent several years or decades.
So, allow me to educate you a bit without sounding condescending, if so, I apologize.
When someone is collecting a pension they earned after many years of service is now in a new position, say, earning 50 thousand, or 100 thousand, that is in no way, shape, or form, double dipping.
Pension is for the time a person already worked, current salary is for hours they "currently" work.
This is not going to turn into a pissing match. I know I am right, if I was wrong, then all the people I referenced would be in eligible under the law to earn ANY additional money whatsoever.
I'm done talking about this. The law allows it, the Mayor made the appointment, the city council unanimously approved it and that's the way it is.
So I guess a retired school teacher collecting a pension could never go on to be a principal in another district ?
A retired firefighter collecting a pension could never become a fire chief. A retired police officer earning a pension could never become a chief of police. It goes with the territory pal. If you want a pension, go out there and serve, protect, save lives, teach kids, become a nurse, join the military and serve your country, build automobiles.
I will defend every cop, fireman, nurse, teacher, soldier, etc who earned their pension fair and square. Just because a man or woman earned the right to retire 15 years sooner than most by placing the community before themselves, does not mean their life ends at 50 or 55.
People have a right to seek higher education and move on to a new career where they (YES) earn money on top of the money they already earned.
Again, if I am wrong, please show me which state or federal law prohibits these folks from earning more money ?
Because, believe me, there are many thousands of men and women across this nation doing exactly what I just stated. Sorry if I sound condescending about this, just felt the need to clarify for you and everyone else that what Director Rita is doing is perfectly legal, it IS NOT double dipping, not even close.
Don't be mad, it's just the way it is.
Hop on the internet and research what I said here. If I am wrong, I will accept it. But if I am wrong, then many, many thousands of retired employees earning a pension and earning $$$ from their current job would be in the shit perhaps ?
Please get back to me about this. I gladly welcome debate about this, but after we finish the debate, I am done with listening to all of the non stop complaints. I almost feel sorrow for the bitter folks out there. Wish everyone all the best. Wish Blue Island all the best.
All done. Thank you. Good day all.
Clear Thinker

Blue Island, IL

#16 Mar 1, 2014
You are obviously a good little Rita apologist who stayed up late last night working on this latest attempt at damage control. You welcome discussion, and I will oblige. I think that most of us would agree with your statement about retired people, collecting pensions, having the right to hold a job. Many (and this word is important) "qualified" people have much to offer when continuing to work after retirement. What raises a red flag with Blue Islanders (who have a long history with this town) is the mistrust of the politically connected Rita family. Please take this into consideration:
JR's father was our former mayor.
JR's mother was a former alderman.
JR's sister is a current alderman.
JR's brother is a State Rep and Calumet Township supervisor.
Now we have JR himself running our police department.
When you allow that much control to one family, it can NOT be good for our town. I have an assignment for you as well. Look up the word "nepotism" in the dictionary. You will see why people are so upset with the politics in our town. It should not be one family's town. It is OUR town. But, thank you for educating us, as you put it. You have taught us that if one family yealds enough power, there will always be those beholding to them that will stay up late at night and attempt to persuade us to "go with the flow".
Sorry.......ain't happening.
Everyday Heros Watching

Maywood, IL

#17 Mar 1, 2014
Double and Tripple Dipping refers to eligibility for second and third pensions (paid for by taxpayers) which is currently legal and needs to be eliminated. Really embarassing political appointments for persons who donate $$$$$ wiithout qualifications, happen. Political Conflicts of Interest, certainly occurred and are worthy of prosecution.
What it Really Means

Maywood, IL

#18 Mar 1, 2014
Everyday Heros Watching wrote:
Double and Tripple Dipping refers to eligibility for second and third pensions (paid for by taxpayers) which is currently legal and needs to be eliminated. Really embarassing political appointments for persons who donate $$$$$ wiithout qualifications, happen. Political Conflicts of Interest, certainly occurred and are worthy of prosecution.
Taxpayers can not afford "The Dark World" offered by Quinn Cronies (including Rita) who failed to pass legislation to end "Double and Triple Dipping", "Liability and Risk of Harm from Unqualified Political Appointments", and "Conflicts of Interest" that cost precious taxpayer dollars.
The Bulldog

Blue Island, IL

#19 Mar 1, 2014
Clear Thinker wrote:
You are obviously a good little Rita apologist who stayed up late last night working on this latest attempt at damage control. You welcome discussion, and I will oblige. I think that most of us would agree with your statement about retired people, collecting pensions, having the right to hold a job. Many (and this word is important) "qualified" people have much to offer when continuing to work after retirement. What raises a red flag with Blue Islanders (who have a long history with this town) is the mistrust of the politically connected Rita family. Please take this into consideration:
JR's father was our former mayor.
JR's mother was a former alderman.
JR's sister is a current alderman.
JR's brother is a State Rep and Calumet Township supervisor.
Now we have JR himself running our police department.
When you allow that much control to one family, it can NOT be good for our town. I have an assignment for you as well. Look up the word "nepotism" in the dictionary. You will see why people are so upset with the politics in our town. It should not be one family's town. It is OUR town. But, thank you for educating us, as you put it. You have taught us that if one family yealds enough power, there will always be those beholding to them that will stay up late at night and attempt to persuade us to "go with the flow".
Sorry.......ain't happening.
Mayor John Rita Sr. Elected by the people
Alderman Rose Rita. Elected by the people
Alderman Nancy Rita. Elected by the people
State Representative/Calumet Township Supervisor Bob Rita. Elected by the people

Nepotism isn't elected. Those 4 all were/are elected to their respective positions by the people of Blue Island, Calumet Township, and the 28th district.

Sounds more like your jealous than anything else.
All In The Family

Blue Island, IL

#20 Mar 1, 2014
The nepotism pertains to John Rita Jr. He was not elected. He was chosen by his brother.

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