VSP Investigates Fatal Crash in Buckingham County - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Sports a...

There are 20 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Jan 6, 2012, titled VSP Investigates Fatal Crash in Buckingham County - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Sports a.... In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Virginia State troopers are investigating a fatal crash in Buckingham County Friday.

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Sunny

Fredericksburg, VA

#21 Jan 7, 2012
Grande Rojo wrote:
Woulda, Shoulda, Coulda. It doesn't matter his age, it doesn't matter if he was texting, It doesn't matter if he was going lights and sirens.
Having known the two EMT's,what matters is the families of all involved. This morning the world is a little darker after having lost these people and heaven is a little bit brighter. And my heart goes out to the families period."Tis grace hath brought me safe thus far, and grace will lead me home.
Yes - true - but we also need to look at ways to avoid this from happening in the future.
Sunny

Fredericksburg, VA

#22 Jan 7, 2012
Momsy wrote:
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I think it is completely rude to insinuate that this young man was texting or using his cell phone. Driving an orange crate on wheels cannot not be easy to maneuver. Also, there are many places on our two lane roads where there is barely enough space for two vehicles, much less an ambulance and a cement truck.
Clearly you did not read the whole comment. Even if this young man was not texting - he still has to multi-task - for example - he has a patient he is paying attention to in the vehicle - he is driving a vehicle which is unlike his own private vehicle and he is trying to pay attention to all of his surroundings - THIS IS MULTI - TASKING. Try google and it will give you the definition if you are still unclear.
Waynesboro

Waynesboro, VA

#23 Jan 7, 2012
Sunny wrote:
My heart goes out to the families of the victims; but I must say - Who thought it was a good ides to put a 21 year old behind the wheel of an ambulance? Studies show that one does not have the COMPLETE ability to multi-task until they are 25 years old. With the era of cell phones, texting and facebook - all of which you can access from your phone riding down the highway at 80 MPH - these young folks should not be put in this position. I have a 21 year old son myself and I would not even think to encourage him to be put in this situation. I do hope that this young mans cell phone records are clear. Sad, Sad, Sad. I hope Priority Ambulance Service has a great insurance plan.
I think it is very disrespectful to ASSUME that this man was testing or using facebook while driving. Do not place judgement on every 21 year old based on the actions of your son. I am 22 and have been in two accidents since I started driving at 16, both were the fault of the other drivers. One 35 and the other 42 years old. My point, it does not matter what age you are, accidents happen and we all take that risk getting into a vehicle every day.
To answer your question. A 21 year old was behind the wheel of that ambulance because he was compassionate and wanted to save lives. Remember that the next time you need to call for help and a 21 year old responds to your call.
Peckerhead

Eagle Rock, VA

#24 Jan 7, 2012
All this bull talk, what does it matter 2 people are dead, can't ya at least pay your respects to those not among us anymore?
God rest ever one

United States

#25 Jan 7, 2012
My god two people died and and the other is injured and the driver of the cement mixer truck has to live with that for the rest of his life. and so does the family that lost there love ones. let them rest in pice. No one should put the blame one any one.
Scene enough

Charlottesville, VA

#26 Jan 7, 2012
Hey Sunny. Are you in EMS at all? then you have no idea what happens behind the wheel of an ambulance. Doesn't matter if it's private or public, volunteer or paid. We ALL take the EVOC course. Until you do, don't make assumptions. 2 people are dead and a third in critical condition ( last I heard ) and the families and coworkers are grieviing. If you have never worked a MVC , especially of those you know, then be quiet. Have respect for the families. Prayers to all involved.
God rest ever one

United States

#27 Jan 7, 2012
You are right the bull talk needs to stop and let them rest and give the family respect they are the ones that lost there loved ones and if this was you. You would want the same. God bless the family that lost there loved ones and God bless the driver who was diving the cement mixer truck because he has to live with what happen.
God rest ever one

United States

#28 Jan 7, 2012
Dont judge me all I was saying is let the family and coworkers let them be and give them some respect if you all have a heart. God knows that it is hard for them as it is with out pointing a finger at someone. I have a heart and I care about people to and it does matter to me. because they are hurting so much. My Prayer are out there to all is involved.
Typistgal

Charlottesville, VA

#29 Jan 7, 2012
I am never surprised at the outrageous comments I read regarding most everything that occurs in Charlottesville. It is obvious not many folks have very much compassion in this snob-ridden two-bit town.
Yoyo

Charlottesville, VA

#30 Jan 7, 2012
CvilleGordo wrote:
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You sound a little confused. Whether or not this vehicle was being operated in emergency mode, you do realize that emergency vehicles are exempt from many traffic laws, when operating in emergency mode (lights, not necessarily siren); right? So the "rules of the road" do indeed allow them to do this under the conditions defined in the Code. Why don't you read for yourself.
46.2-920. Certain vehicles exempt from regulations in certain situations; exceptions and additional requirements.
A. The driver of any emergency vehicle, when such vehicle is being used in the performance of public services, and when such vehicle is operated under emergency conditions, may, without subjecting himself to criminal prosecution:
1. Disregard speed limits, while having due regard for safety of persons and property;
2. Proceed past any steady or flashing red signal, traffic light, stop sign, or device indicating moving traffic shall stop if the speed of the vehicle is sufficiently reduced to enable it to pass a signal, traffic light, or device with due regard to the safety of persons and property;
3. Park or stop notwithstanding the other provisions of this chapter;
4. Disregard regulations governing a direction of movement of vehicles turning in specified directions so long as the operator does not endanger life or property;
5. Pass or overtake, with due regard to the safety of persons and property, another vehicle at any intersection;
6. Pass or overtake with due regard to the safety of persons and property, while en route to an emergency, stopped or slow-moving vehicles, by going to the left of the stopped or slow-moving vehicle either in a no-passing zone or by crossing the highway centerline; or
7. Pass or overtake with due regard to the safety of persons and property, while en route to an emergency, stopped or slow-moving vehicles, by going off the paved or main traveled portion of the roadway on the right. Notwithstanding other provisions of this section, vehicles exempted in this instance will not be required to sound a siren or any device to give automatically intermittent signals.
I'm not clear what argument you're trying to make. Are you saying the driver had the right to be on the wrong side of the road? If so, read sec. 1-7 again. In every case the exception is made ONLY IF DUE REGARD FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IS FOLLOWED. Clearly it was not in this case. Besides, that vehicle, in the stated capacity, was no more than a taxi service. It was not an emergency vehicle.
PerryMason

Charlottesville, VA

#31 Jan 7, 2012
Civil suit to follow for sure.
OSOK

Richmond, VA

#32 Jan 7, 2012
Sarg wrote:
The fact that this vehicle was transporting a patient from a hospital to a nursing home indicates to me that this was no "emergency" situation, simply a case of reckless driving.These private ambulance companies need to exercise more care in whom they employ as drivers.
Thank you. The person who made the point of typing the code of Va failed to read the code that was typed, or pasted. Emergency and due regard are important words. No question had the driver not been killed, and not been an EV operator, he would have been charged. EV operators drive improperly all the time. I saw an incident of this earlier today. An ambulance was approaching a red light with traffic, and kept the sirens blasting while hitting the pitch button at a feverish pace, forcing drivers in line at the intersection to do stupid things like actually pulling into the intersection in order to have enough room to pull out of their lane of traffic. Regardless of the nature of the emergency, this is dangerous and improper operation of an EV (emergency vehicle) and illustrates a lack of "due regard" while operating the vehicle. Particularly when I heard the sirens come on only when the driver approached the traffic with the red light in view. Having been EVOC certified and an operator for over 7 years, I assure you that no time was saved, and the risk the EV operator placed upon the civilian drivers was wrong and dangerous.
Great

Charlottesville, VA

#33 Jan 7, 2012
Sunny wrote:
<quoted text> again - Multi-tasking becomes an issue 16 or 21> Need I say more?
No, you pointed out that it was silly to put a 21yo as a driver of an ambulance... I merely pointed out that you are wrong and that is no different then letting a 16yo drive a car. Realistically, if the driver met all the safety "nets" in place, I see no wrong in Priority doing so.
Great

Charlottesville, VA

#34 Jan 7, 2012
Sunny wrote:
<quoted text> Clearly you did not read the whole comment. Even if this young man was not texting - he still has to multi-task - for example - he has a patient he is paying attention to in the vehicle - he is driving a vehicle which is unlike his own private vehicle and he is trying to pay attention to all of his surroundings - THIS IS MULTI - TASKING. Try google and it will give you the definition if you are still unclear.
Be aware-- the driver's main job is to drive the ambulance to its destination, not provide care for the patient in the back. That is why there is another skilled provider in the back whose job is solely to care for the patient.
Great

Charlottesville, VA

#35 Jan 7, 2012
Yoyo wrote:
<quoted text> I'm not clear what argument you're trying to make. Are you saying the driver had the right to be on the wrong side of the road? If so, read sec. 1-7 again. In every case the exception is made ONLY IF DUE REGARD FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IS FOLLOWED. Clearly it was not in this case. Besides, that vehicle, in the stated capacity, was no more than a taxi service. It was not an emergency vehicle.
Obviously you cannot read.

His pre-text clearly states that the vehicle has to be in "EMERGENCY" mode before laws can be "broken". He merely was answering the question of an individual who did not understand why ambulances constantly break the rules and not knowing the difference between emergent, and not-emergent.
John

Bethesda, MD

#36 Jan 7, 2012
When I opened the comment page I expected to see sympathy remarks. I'm amazed (but probably shouldn't be) that that isn't the case.

Truly a tragedy and I pray for all those affected.
Peckerhead

Waynesboro, VA

#37 Jan 7, 2012
It's a darn shame that all your judgmental sons of btchs can't let these 2 people rest in peace, Ya'll must be a bunch of snot nosed bunch of non believers, let them rest or go somewhere where the Devil will appreciate you.
Great

Charlottesville, VA

#38 Jan 7, 2012
OSOK wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you. The person who made the point of typing the code of Va failed to read the code that was typed, or pasted. Emergency and due regard are important words. No question had the driver not been killed, and not been an EV operator, he would have been charged. EV operators drive improperly all the time. I saw an incident of this earlier today. An ambulance was approaching a red light with traffic, and kept the sirens blasting while hitting the pitch button at a feverish pace, forcing drivers in line at the intersection to do stupid things like actually pulling into the intersection in order to have enough room to pull out of their lane of traffic. Regardless of the nature of the emergency, this is dangerous and improper operation of an EV (emergency vehicle) and illustrates a lack of "due regard" while operating the vehicle. Particularly when I heard the sirens come on only when the driver approached the traffic with the red light in view. Having been EVOC certified and an operator for over 7 years, I assure you that no time was saved, and the risk the EV operator placed upon the civilian drivers was wrong and dangerous.
If you feel this is unsafe, maybe you should call up their department and complain?
Eva

Charlottesville, VA

#39 Jan 7, 2012
Great wrote:
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If you feel this is unsafe, maybe you should call up their department and complain?
Perhaps you should spend more time in front of a writing tutorial and less time in front of comment section.
OOZONE

Waynesboro, VA

#40 Jan 7, 2012
I don't believe that no one has mentioned that maybe something broke or malfunctioned in the steering system, maybe the brakes failed, Everyone assumes it was the driver. My sympathies go out to the familys. Having known the driver, believe me he was a good kid and took his job seriously. May those involved find peace.

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