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Virginia State troopers are investigating a fatal crash in Buckingham County Friday.
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I wonder if he felt asleep?
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It doesn't matter what the cause was..2 people lost their lives...May God rest their weary souls..May their family find comfort in their time of sorrow...
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Jan 7, 2012
 
The rescue squad crossed the line and hit the concrete mixer, wasn't the mixer drivers fault, but I know anything that hits a mixer fully loaded is going to be fatal, 30,000lbs unloaded and you can imagine what it weighs loaded with concrete.
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Very sad. And completely avoidable. No charges only because the offender is deceased. I hope the concrete truck driver recovers quickly from the affects of such a horrible experience,and the injured as well. Lights and sirens, employed in this incident or not, do not give emergency vehicle operators the right to break the law that non emergency operators alike are responsible to. Countless times I witness an EV behave inappropriately. This incident was inevitable, and will be repeated unless the EV operators obey the rules of the road. My prayers to all those involved.

Very sad.
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OSOK wrote:
Very sad. And completely avoidable. No charges only because the offender is deceased. I hope the concrete truck driver recovers quickly from the affects of such a horrible experience,and the injured as well. Lights and sirens, employed in this incident or not, do not give emergency vehicle operators the right to break the law that non emergency operators alike are responsible to. Countless times I witness an EV behave inappropriately. This incident was inevitable, and will be repeated unless the EV operators obey the rules of the road. My prayers to all those involved.
Very sad.
Who said they were going lights and siren? The were bringing a Pt from a hospital to a nursing home. They would not have been going lights and sire.
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Here we go again wrote:
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Who said they were going lights and siren? The were bringing a Pt from a hospital to a nursing home. They would not have been going lights and sire.
You're a few sandwiches shy of a picnic my friend. No one said they were going lights and sirens, read the text properly.
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Great wrote:
I wonder if he felt asleep?
No ... he felt dead, you pinhead
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OSOK wrote:
Very sad. And completely avoidable. No charges only because the offender is deceased. I hope the concrete truck driver recovers quickly from the affects of such a horrible experience,and the injured as well. Lights and sirens, employed in this incident or not, do not give emergency vehicle operators the right to break the law that non emergency operators alike are responsible to. Countless times I witness an EV behave inappropriately. This incident was inevitable, and will be repeated unless the EV operators obey the rules of the road. My prayers to all those involved.
Very sad.
You sound a little confused. Whether or not this vehicle was being operated in emergency mode, you do realize that emergency vehicles are exempt from many traffic laws, when operating in emergency mode (lights, not necessarily siren); right? So the "rules of the road" do indeed allow them to do this under the conditions defined in the Code. Why don't you read for yourself.

46.2-920. Certain vehicles exempt from regulations in certain situations; exceptions and additional requirements.

A. The driver of any emergency vehicle, when such vehicle is being used in the performance of public services, and when such vehicle is operated under emergency conditions, may, without subjecting himself to criminal prosecution:

1. Disregard speed limits, while having due regard for safety of persons and property;

2. Proceed past any steady or flashing red signal, traffic light, stop sign, or device indicating moving traffic shall stop if the speed of the vehicle is sufficiently reduced to enable it to pass a signal, traffic light, or device with due regard to the safety of persons and property;

3. Park or stop notwithstanding the other provisions of this chapter;

4. Disregard regulations governing a direction of movement of vehicles turning in specified directions so long as the operator does not endanger life or property;

5. Pass or overtake, with due regard to the safety of persons and property, another vehicle at any intersection;

6. Pass or overtake with due regard to the safety of persons and property, while en route to an emergency, stopped or slow-moving vehicles, by going to the left of the stopped or slow-moving vehicle either in a no-passing zone or by crossing the highway centerline; or

7. Pass or overtake with due regard to the safety of persons and property, while en route to an emergency, stopped or slow-moving vehicles, by going off the paved or main traveled portion of the roadway on the right. Notwithstanding other provisions of this section, vehicles exempted in this instance will not be required to sound a siren or any device to give automatically intermittent signals.
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The text didn't say "lights and sirens" OSOK, but your comment certainly suggested that was the case. You did write "... do not give emergency vehicle operators the right to break the law ..." though. That may be true in PA, but emergency vehicles in Virginia are allowed by law to do things that private vehicle operators are not. Some of the numerous violations you refer to may in fact be sanctioned acts. I rarely see any emergency vehicle operators breaking the law.
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Just once, I would like people to think of the families involved. Send your prayers. People died, people got hurt. These people have families. For the past 10 years I have had the oppertunity to volunteer as an EMT and Driver. For both of these privilidges, I have gone thru numerous hours of training. These vehicles don't handle like your little hybrids. Rt 20 is a two lane road, not a lot of room for error. To OSOK.. have you never been in an accident? That is why they call them accidents. Stay up north and keep your opinions for those up there. Down here we see this as a loss to out community as well as to the families. If you need a hobby, try knitting.....
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All one has to do it take their eyes off the road for a nano second-whether one is driving a car, truck or ambo.
There is no reason to go "lights and siren" to a nursing home-they do not have an ED. IF the driver was going "lights and siren" he was going to a hospital.
I hope texting does not play a part here.
Maybe age and inexperience does, that's for the investigators to determine not us.
RIP
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My heart goes out to the families of the victims; but I must say - Who thought it was a good ides to put a 21 year old behind the wheel of an ambulance? Studies show that one does not have the COMPLETE ability to multi-task until they are 25 years old. With the era of cell phones, texting and facebook - all of which you can access from your phone riding down the highway at 80 MPH - these young folks should not be put in this position. I have a 21 year old son myself and I would not even think to encourage him to be put in this situation. I do hope that this young mans cell phone records are clear. Sad, Sad, Sad. I hope Priority Ambulance Service has a great insurance plan.
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wondering wrote:
The rescue squad crossed the line and hit the concrete mixer, wasn't the mixer drivers fault, but I know anything that hits a mixer fully loaded is going to be fatal, 30,000lbs unloaded and you can imagine what it weighs loaded with concrete.
Priority is Private Transport Company
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CvilleGordo wrote:
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You sound a little confused. Whether or not this vehicle was being operated in emergency mode, you do realize that emergency vehicles are exempt from many traffic laws, when operating in emergency mode (lights, not necessarily siren); right? So the "rules of the road" do indeed allow them to do this under the conditions defined in the Code. Why don't you read for yourself.
46.2-920. Certain vehicles exempt from regulations in certain situations; exceptions and additional requirements.
A. The driver of any emergency vehicle, when such vehicle is being used in the performance of public services, and when such vehicle is operated under emergency conditions, may, without subjecting himself to criminal prosecution:
1. Disregard speed limits, while having due regard for safety of persons and property;
2. Proceed past any steady or flashing red signal, traffic light, stop sign, or device indicating moving traffic shall stop if the speed of the vehicle is sufficiently reduced to enable it to pass a signal, traffic light, or device with due regard to the safety of persons and property;
3. Park or stop notwithstanding the other provisions of this chapter;
4. Disregard regulations governing a direction of movement of vehicles turning in specified directions so long as the operator does not endanger life or property;
5. Pass or overtake, with due regard to the safety of persons and property, another vehicle at any intersection;
6. Pass or overtake with due regard to the safety of persons and property, while en route to an emergency, stopped or slow-moving vehicles, by going to the left of the stopped or slow-moving vehicle either in a no-passing zone or by crossing the highway centerline; or
7. Pass or overtake with due regard to the safety of persons and property, while en route to an emergency, stopped or slow-moving vehicles, by going off the paved or main traveled portion of the roadway on the right. Notwithstanding other provisions of this section, vehicles exempted in this instance will not be required to sound a siren or any device to give automatically intermittent signals.
I thought recent laws made it a requirement to operate under lights and sirens when clearly trying to exempt one from certain traffic laws like going against a red?
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emt and a driver wrote:
Just once, I would like people to think of the families involved. Send your prayers. People died, people got hurt. These people have families. For the past 10 years I have had the oppertunity to volunteer as an EMT and Driver. For both of these privilidges, I have gone thru numerous hours of training. These vehicles don't handle like your little hybrids. Rt 20 is a two lane road, not a lot of room for error. To OSOK.. have you never been in an accident? That is why they call them accidents. Stay up north and keep your opinions for those up there. Down here we see this as a loss to out community as well as to the families. If you need a hobby, try knitting.....
Have been an EMT, you must have filled out numerous paperworks where you circled "Motor Vehicle Collison" not "Motor Vehicle Accident"

I truly feel bad for those involved and I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone but in most cases, someone is always at fault.
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Sunny wrote:
My heart goes out to the families of the victims; but I must say - Who thought it was a good ides to put a 21 year old behind the wheel of an ambulance? Studies show that one does not have the COMPLETE ability to multi-task until they are 25 years old. With the era of cell phones, texting and facebook - all of which you can access from your phone riding down the highway at 80 MPH - these young folks should not be put in this position. I have a 21 year old son myself and I would not even think to encourage him to be put in this situation. I do hope that this young mans cell phone records are clear. Sad, Sad, Sad. I hope Priority Ambulance Service has a great insurance plan.
I think it is completely rude to insinuate that this young man was texting or using his cell phone. Driving an orange crate on wheels cannot not be easy to maneuver. Also, there are many places on our two lane roads where there is barely enough space for two vehicles, much less an ambulance and a cement truck.
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Sunny wrote:
My heart goes out to the families of the victims; but I must say - Who thought it was a good ides to put a 21 year old behind the wheel of an ambulance? Studies show that one does not have the COMPLETE ability to multi-task until they are 25 years old. With the era of cell phones, texting and facebook - all of which you can access from your phone riding down the highway at 80 MPH - these young folks should not be put in this position. I have a 21 year old son myself and I would not even think to encourage him to be put in this situation. I do hope that this young mans cell phone records are clear. Sad, Sad, Sad. I hope Priority Ambulance Service has a great insurance plan.
You are asking.... "Why give a 16yo the right to operate a motor vehicle at all? They are obviously not an adult and can be considered as "not responsible" enough?" Amirite?

I would imagine most organizations have it that you need a # of years behind A VEHICLE (could be personal), a GOOD DRIVING RECORD, CERTIFIED IN EV Operations to garner the privilege to operate an EV.
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The fact that this vehicle was transporting a patient from a hospital to a nursing home indicates to me that this was no "emergency" situation, simply a case of reckless driving.These private ambulance companies need to exercise more care in whom they employ as drivers.
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Woulda, Shoulda, Coulda. It doesn't matter his age, it doesn't matter if he was texting, It doesn't matter if he was going lights and sirens.
Having known the two EMT's,what matters is the families of all involved. This morning the world is a little darker after having lost these people and heaven is a little bit brighter. And my heart goes out to the families period."Tis grace hath brought me safe thus far, and grace will lead me home.
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Great wrote:
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You are asking.... "Why give a 16yo the right to operate a motor vehicle at all? They are obviously not an adult and can be considered as "not responsible" enough?" Amirite?
I would imagine most organizations have it that you need a # of years behind A VEHICLE (could be personal), a GOOD DRIVING RECORD, CERTIFIED IN EV Operations to garner the privilege to operate an EV.
again - Multi-tasking becomes an issue 16 or 21> Need I say more?

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