Why drug companies might be paying yo...

Why drug companies might be paying your doctor to tout their products

There are 20 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Oct 30, 2010, titled Why drug companies might be paying your doctor to tout their products. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

On Tuesday afternoon, Dr. James I. McMillen drove to Palmyra to talk to other doctors about Nucynta, a new acute pain medication.

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dchristine

York, PA

#1 Oct 30, 2010
Dr. Robert Glorioso would never, ever, do anything like this. He is the most honest and caring physician that I know. He cares more about his patients than he does "greasing" his own hand. Thank God for people like him.
geez

Forest Hill, MD

#2 Oct 30, 2010
No wonder our drugs are so high.
Working Mom

York, PA

#3 Oct 30, 2010
And do you think optometrists/ophthalmologists don't use particular contact lenses for a reason?
WILDCAT HOLLOW

Mount Wolf, PA

#4 Oct 30, 2010
dchristine wrote:
Dr. Robert Glorioso would never, ever, do anything like this. He is the most honest and caring physician that I know. He cares more about his patients than he does "greasing" his own hand. Thank God for people like him.
Next time Dr Bob goes to Tahiti on their dime, tell him you'd love to go along.
dlm

Forest Hill, MD

#5 Oct 30, 2010
Just goes to show that we really don't know people like we think we do. Also there could be different reasons why they go. Maybe they firmly believe in the product and want to share their experience with it.

Since: Oct 08

York, PA

#6 Oct 31, 2010
It's hard to know whether these lecturers are representing the truth when you don't even know what has been submitted to the FDA is accurate. I presume these doctors are parroting what the drug companies have told the FDA. So while they may be imparting only knowledge it is the quality of the knowledge that I question and not the doctors.
frustrated

York, PA

#7 Oct 31, 2010
Wow...when did the investigative reporter figure that one out? Where do you think all the lunches come from?
dchristine

York, PA

#8 Oct 31, 2010
WILDCAT HOLLOW wrote:
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Next time Dr Bob goes to Tahiti on their dime, tell him you'd love to go along.
Believe me, I will.
dchristine

York, PA

#9 Oct 31, 2010
Please don't question his integrity, or any other doctor for that matter. All I know is how caring he is. By the way, he is not the doctor(s) in question. All I made was a comment on his character. Thought I was doing a nice thing, okay.
Cindy Myerly

Etters, PA

#10 Oct 31, 2010
Dr. James McMillen is my rheumatologist and he has done wonders for my pain that no one else ever could. I do not think he would do anything unethical. Sharing knowledge and new product information that may help another person is a good thing as far as I am concerned.
boring

Kingston, PA

#11 Nov 1, 2010
this article is nothing new, and it's pretty lazy.
Most of the time these docs are specialists who have practice one part of medicine, they then take this knowledge and share it with the family practice doctors who may not be as specialized.
I'd rather have my doctor know about all the drugs out there, rather than just the few he/she may have prescribed in the past.
How else would you learn about new things? Other than to ask the experts?
Pablo

Hamburg, PA

#13 Nov 2, 2010
Absurdity wrote:
It's hard to know whether these lecturers are representing the truth when you don't even know what has been submitted to the FDA is accurate. I presume these doctors are parroting what the drug companies have told the FDA. So while they may be imparting only knowledge it is the quality of the knowledge that I question and not the doctors.
Big Pharm contributes millions to political campaigns. The politicians appoint FDA leaders. Those Leaders will do what the politicians say to keep their job. And the politicians tell them to approve the drug as “thank you” for the contributions.
Then the drugs companies give Doctors vacations for pushing their products. Everyone gets rich: the doctors, Big Pharm, the Politicians.
The only defense people have are lawyers willing to bring class action suits. But those lawyers a demonized and blamed for the increase cost of healthcare.

Since: Oct 08

York, PA

#14 Nov 2, 2010
Pablo wrote:
<quoted text>those lawyers a demonized and blamed for the increase cost of healthcare.
Very true. In Pennsylvania they tried to get Rendell to pass legislation that would cap lawsuits against the medical establishment - he refused to pass it. Rendell wasn't all bad.
Pablo

Hamburg, PA

#15 Nov 3, 2010
Absurdity wrote:
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Very true. In Pennsylvania they tried to get Rendell to pass legislation that would cap lawsuits against the medical establishment - he refused to pass it. Rendell wasn't all bad.
$250,000 cap on pain and suffering? What that does is deter lawyers from taking cases. It is also an arbitrary number. What about a person who had the wrong organ removed? What if they cut off your arm by accident? What if they screw up and paralyze you?

I don't think 250k would satisfy me if I could never walk again.
HumanSpirit

Alachua, FL

#16 Nov 3, 2010
Lets hope the doctors recognize the fraud in the pharmaceuticals for political power and profit.

Neurontin doesn't relieve pain. It's a mind drug in the contunation of "drug America"

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Neurontin Lawsuit Filed Over Fraudulent Marketing Charges


 Brought by Kaiser Foundation Health Plan, Inc. and Kaiser Hospitals, a lawsuit judgment of $142.1 million was entered against Pfizer for the charge of illegal advertising of the drug Neurontin.
Neurontin, also known as gabapentin, was originally intended as an anticonvulsant to help control epileptic seizures. Kaiser claimed that it paid $90 million for the drug because it was also marketed as effective for at least 11 other conditions, including attention deficit disorder (ADD), drug and alcohol withdrawal seizures, restless leg syndrome (RLS) and trigeminal neuralgia. It was also said to be effective for bipolar disorder, migraines and other psychological/neurological diagnoses, but the drug allegedly performed poorly for these conditions. It is not illegal for physicians to prescribe medicines to patients for off-label use.
After a trial that lasted one month, and deliberations that took two days, a United States District Court jury in Boston awarded the plaintiffs $47.36 million. The claim alleged that Pfizer also violated a federal crime – the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO)– so the monetary award is tripled automatically.
Neurontin has been on the market since 1983. It was FDA approved in 1994. In 2008, however, the FDA required that neurontin medicine bottles contain a label warning consumers that taking it might increase the risk of suicidal ideations. If the decision is upheld, Kaiser receives the $142 million; however, Phizer earned $387 million in 2008 from Neurontin alone. Total Neurontin sales are estimated at around $2.7 billion.
This isn’t the first lawsuit Pfizer faced regarding Neurontin, either. The first one came in 2004 when a woman using the drug committed suicide. The case was dropped before it reached court. The Boston decision also won’t be the last one the drug company is up against. An estimated 1,200 other lawsuits are pending against the drug manufacturer. The court is working to lump many of the cases together to save time and money. The other lawsuits are scheduled for hearings beginning next week.
Many of the outstanding lawsuits are from individuals claiming that they suffered from an increase in thoughts about committing suicide while on the drug. Plaintiffs usually ask for monetary rewards to help them recoup some of their financial loss due to medical costs, loss of work and wages and their pain and suffering.
If you or a loved one has experienced health complications or illness while using Neurontin or related drugs, contact Newsome Law Firm and fill out a case evaluation form today. Our team of attorneys has experience specific to complications associated with prescription medication. Not only can they give you the legal guidance you need, they can help you get the compensation you deserve.

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HumanSpirit

Alachua, FL

#17 Nov 3, 2010
Pfizer’s Headache
Lawsuit charges drugmaker was deceptive about Neurontin.
After it paid $430 million to settle a 2004 lawsuit over illegal promotion of its anti-seizure drug Neurontin, Pfizer, the world's largest pharmaceutical company, may have thought its legal troubles with that medication were over. Not so fast: A new lawsuit, brought by the same attorney, alleges that the company's misdeeds went much further than originally charged. According to newly unsealed court documents, not only did the company and its subsidiaries push Neurontin for unapproved uses—the practice at the center of the first suit, which Pfizer admitted to as part of its settlement—they did so knowing that the drug was ineffective for several of those conditions (the settlement involved allegations of both criminal and civil violations). Pfizer, according to the documents, engaged in "outright deception of the biomedical community, and suppression of scientific truth"—stalling or stopping the publication of negative study results; manipulating both trial designs and data to make the drug look more effective than it was; and using questionable tactics to enhance the drug's image and increase its sales.
These practices were "highly unethical, harmful to science, wasteful of public resources, and potentially dangerous to the public's health," writes Kay Dickersin, the author of the longest of the documents and the director of the Center for Clinical Trials at Johns Hopkins University.
On Tuesday, Pfizer released a statement saying that it was "committed to the communication of medically or scientifically significant results of all studies, regardless of outcome. Company policy requires that, in all cases, study results are reported by Pfizer in an objective, accurate, balanced, and complete manner with a discussion of the strengths and limitations of the study, and are reported regardless of the outcome of the study."
The lawsuit is in early stages; Boston attorney Thomas Greene (who represented David Franklin, the whistleblower in the first Neurontin case) is seeking permission to bring it as a class-action case. Judge Patti Saris rejected a request to that effect in August, but at the time, says Greene, she had not seen 12 expert reports that now comprise the bulk of the argument against the company. The reports, written by a wide variety of respected academics and submitted to the judge as part of the complaint, cite provocative emails sent by employees of Pfizer and its subsidiaries. They also analyze studies, both published and unpublished, that the company commissioned to test Neurontin's effectiveness at treating four conditions for which it is not approved: nociceptive pain ("think,'I just hit my finger with a hammer,'" says Greene), bipolar disorder, migraines and headaches, and neuropathic pain, a chronic condition resulting from an injury to the nervous system. A final report concludes that Pfizer encouraged doctors to prescribe Neurontin at higher doses than those approved by the FDA.
In the case of nociceptive pain, the documents suggest a simple pattern of misbehavior: commissioning tests but declining to publish results that showed the drug did not work. The documents list several randomized controlled trials of Neurontin for this acute form of pain. All were commissioned by Pfizer, all turned out negative, and none were ever published in journals.

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Since: Oct 08

York, PA

#18 Nov 3, 2010
Pablo wrote:
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$250,000 cap on pain and suffering? What that does is deter lawyers from taking cases. It is also an arbitrary number. What about a person who had the wrong organ removed? What if they cut off your arm by accident? What if they screw up and paralyze you?
I don't think 250k would satisfy me if I could never walk again.
Of course so there would be no lawsuits against the medical establishment and then they would lower their prices right? lol Yeah, fat chance. Just more money for expansions and bottom lines.
HumanSpirit

Alachua, FL

#19 Nov 4, 2010
How about Bush's answer to the lawsuits against the Pharmacutical Industry.

If the FDA excepted the drug then the government is at fault. You can't sue the government and so the Pharmacutical Industry can make billions in a qtr year and they are off the hook even if the person using the product is damaged for life.

Also don't forget the "Medical Privacy Act" that conceals the wrong doing of doctors and Psychiatrist and hides and conceals defective medical products and Pharmacutical drugs from the public or press. Can't make statistics without records.
local

Carlisle, PA

#20 Nov 8, 2010
maybe if they read the list of adverse side effects of some of these drugs they`d be less inclined to do this ! some of these drugs are dangerous ,with side effects that are very hard to justify , and god only knows why the fda passes them ! remember the hippocratic oath !
Precy

Redwood City, CA

#21 Aug 31, 2012
This is the reason why we should be careful about choosing doctors to take care for us. See http://www.vaginalmeshlawsuit.com for significant information

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