Police: 1 Dead After Driver, 70, Caus...

Police: 1 Dead After Driver, 70, Causes Wrecks 4 Hours Apart

There are 21 comments on the NBC 5i Dallas/Fort Worth story from Jul 18, 2008, titled Police: 1 Dead After Driver, 70, Causes Wrecks 4 Hours Apart. In it, NBC 5i Dallas/Fort Worth reports that:

A 70-year-old driver caused a fatal rollover accident after an illegal left turn, then started an eight-car pileup four hours later by rear-ending a stopped car, police said.

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2 old 2 drive

Fort Worth, TX

#2 Jul 18, 2008
after age 65, a new driving test and mental competence test should be required.
Devils Advocate

Smyrna, TN

#3 Jul 18, 2008
"To be running at a high rate of speed and not see vehicles stopped in front of him, raises questions on Mr. Milstid's ability to drive safely," Diboll Police Chief Kent Havard told the Lufkin Daily News.
Duhhhhhhhhhhhhh - Ya think????

Take the license and the car away and lock him up!!!
nissa

United States

#4 Jul 18, 2008
Okay, two serious wrecks within four hours? This person is not capable of driving anymore. WHY WAS HE NOT RELIEVED OF HIS KEYS/VEHICLE AFTER THE FIRST ONE?

After age 65 we should ALL be required to take a road test AND a mental competency test.

He should be charged with murder!
STARGAZER

Irving, TX

#5 Jul 18, 2008
Aww c'mon folks lighten up, it just wasn't his day....probably thinking about other things like his Viagra prescription and his hot date that evening.
70 ain't old I hate to tell ya....my mother still drives her car and she is 80.....<of course, we warn everyone to get off the road before she does>.
There has to be extenuating circumstances in this guy's case...perhaps he's on meds...if there is a medical reason, he should face appropriate charges..if he was just acting the fool and there is nothing wrong..then throw him in the clinker and lose the key...
happy medium

Lewisville, TX

#6 Jul 18, 2008
They always to wait for someone to get killed before they finally do anything about a dangerous elderly driver. Families have GOT to step in. Funny quick story: When my grandpa's driving skills started getting questionable we took his truck and said we were having the oil changed. He would forget that we took it for an "oil change" and would ask again every couple days. He always bought the story that it was getting an "oil change". Bless his heart but at least we kept him from killing himself or anyone else. RIP Grandpa.
Buddy

Keller, TX

#7 Jul 19, 2008
Come on people, what has age have to do with it? lock up all the red light light runners, lock up all the police-officers that have or cause wrecks, take away the license of all the teenagers that speed, remove all the drunks from the road, how old is the police chief in Luffin, maybe we should take his license, if he has a father or mother that drives lock all of them up, lets get stupid with our assumptions
Buddy

Keller, TX

#8 Jul 19, 2008
nissa wrote:
Okay, two serious wrecks within four hours? This person is not capable of driving anymore. WHY WAS HE NOT RELIEVED OF HIS KEYS/VEHICLE AFTER THE FIRST ONE?
After age 65 we should ALL be required to take a road test AND a mental competency test.
He should be charged with murder!
You should be required to take a mental competency test for the stupid remarks you have made, in print, no less, for the world to see. if we took away the license of everyone that has had a wreck, we would have about 75 percent fewer officers on the street to protect people like you
Disgusted

Denton, TX

#9 Jul 19, 2008
He probably pooped in his Depends and needed to change before a refill....
RPM

Fort Worth, TX

#10 Jul 19, 2008
"let's get stupid with our assumptions"

Assumptions? One innocent person is dead, multiple people are injured, and thousands of dollars in property damage occurred. We are way past "assumptions" here, don't you think? What do you say to that innocent person who simply got in their vehicle with their family for a small outing, not knowing that would be their last moments on earth? And for what? All because no one wants to confront the issue of the natural decline in ability due to advancing age? This is not a question of an individual's right to drive or make his own decisions. This is about recognizing it's time to accept we all have limitations whether we like it or not. Anyone who contributed to allowing this individual to continue to operate a motor vehicle...voters, state law makers,law enforcement officers, family members, doctors...all share responsiblity for this death.
WWHD

Dallas, TX

#11 Jul 19, 2008
Buddy wrote:
Come on people, what has age have to do with it? lock up all the red light light runners, lock up all the police-officers that have or cause wrecks, take away the license of all the teenagers that speed, remove all the drunks from the road, how old is the police chief in Luffin, maybe we should take his license, if he has a father or mother that drives lock all of them up, lets get stupid with our assumptions
What about the immigrants who drive like they have never driven before? On my way to work and back I have to creep through with full attention around Spring Valley and Preston Rd. because of all these people in SUV's and junk cars darting in and out of the apartment complexes and gas stations. They don't even look at where they are going. They probably have no DL, insurance, or have fake ID's. Has nothing to do with age, as they are all teens thru 40's.

I have also noticed hommies driving like that in their late model caddies, all dented and banged up with their spinners going round and round. They don't look old to me.
nissa

United States

#12 Jul 19, 2008
Way to go, Buddy, show the world what you've got upstairs. At no point did I indicate anyone who has an accident should lose their license automatically.

For the record, many elderly people have been in the news the past two years for killing people because they are no longer competent to drive, yet are allowed to continue to drive until they HAVE KILLED SOMEONE.

MY POINT was a mandatory review of this age group would save lives! Everyone loses ability as they age. That is a fact, not my opinion. We are also faced with the largest number of senior drivers in history on the roads. To do nothing and allow innocent live to die is scandalous and irresponsible.
Buddy

Keller, TX

#13 Jul 19, 2008
nissa wrote:
Way to go, Buddy, show the world what you've got upstairs. At no point did I indicate anyone who has an accident should lose their license automatically.
For the record, many elderly people have been in the news the past two years for killing people because they are no longer competent to drive, yet are allowed to continue to drive until they HAVE KILLED SOMEONE.
MY POINT was a mandatory review of this age group would save lives! Everyone loses ability as they age. That is a fact, not my opinion. We are also faced with the largest number of senior drivers in history on the roads. To do nothing and allow innocent live to die is scandalous and irresponsible.
so as long as you are under the age of 65, you think it is ok to go around driving drunk, speeding, running red lighs, and killing people, ck of statists show that the senior driver is the safest on the road, teens are the worst as far as speeding and accidents, and the 21 to 65 crowd are the most likly to drive drunk, have no insurince and speed and run red lights, which group do you fit in???
Rosie M

Lewisville, TX

#14 Jul 19, 2008
Forget revoking his license, this guy needs to go to jail!
nissa

United States

#15 Jul 20, 2008
Whoa, Buddy, at no time has anyone stated that risky/dangerous driving behavior is OKAY!(Especially when lives are lost.) I'm not much under 65, but I see a tragic trend and know something must be done to protect the public on the roads.
Give this article a read and see what you think:
"There have been a number of stories on the topic of elderly drivers recently, tied to the tragedy in California. "Crash Renews Debate on Older Drivers: 86-Year-Old Motorist Had Clean Record, Officials Say," is the headline to this story in the Washington Post. Some quotes:
"This is becoming a huge issue," said Susan Ferguson, senior vice president for research at the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. "We know that the baby boomers are going to be in this age group in a few years. They've been driving all of their lives and won't want to give it up. The elderly are going to represent more of a problem on the road than they currently do."
In recent years, several states have passed laws requiring senior drivers to comply with licensing regulations that are more stringent than those imposed on most other motorists. Some forbid motorists older than 70 from renewing their driver's licenses by mail, or test their visual and mental competence every few years. Maryland, Virginia and the District do not have special renewal requirements for older drivers.
Groups representing senior citizens have denounced other proposals such as requiring the elderly to take regular road tests as discriminatory and blocked their passage. "Yes, things happen to people as they age, but they happen to different people at different times -- it's hard to pinpoint an age where someone should be subject to more driving limits," said Cheryl Matheis, director of state affairs for AARP, the nation's largest senior-citizen lobby.
National studies show that teenagers, and not the elderly, present the greatest risks to themselves and other motorists on the road. But that is partly because seniors drive less frequently and fewer miles than those in other age groups. When those factors are considered, their rate of accidents exceeds that of other age groups."
That lady the old man killed would have liked to live a little longer, don't you think?
Charlie

Grand Prairie, TX

#16 Jul 20, 2008
Too bad he didn't have Hector Montenegro and Tillie Burgin from Mission Arlington in the car with him.
Ray

Conroe, TX

#17 Aug 1, 2008
My grandfather asked me to drive him to the local DL office shortly after his 73rd birthday. Naturally, I figured he was going to renew his license. What happened totally amazed me. When his turn came up, he walked up to the counter, took his driver's license out of his wallet and handed it to the examiner. He said, "Ma'am. I am turning in my driver's license and ask you to revoke it." The lady looked at him in disbelief. He turned around walked back to me and said, "Let's go." The examiner was still staring at him as we walked out the door. As we were driving home I asked him why in the world he would turn in his license when he was in great physical shape. His response, "Son. Part of being a good driver is knowing when you can no longer operate a motor vehicle with out endangering others. My eyes are bad and reflexes are too slow. I have no business driving a car now."
TxGirl

Stephenville, TX

#18 Aug 1, 2008
2 old 2 drive wrote:
after age 65, a new driving test and mental competence test should be required.
Yes I agree
TxGirl

Stephenville, TX

#19 Aug 1, 2008
Ray wrote:
My grandfather asked me to drive him to the local DL office shortly after his 73rd birthday. Naturally, I figured he was going to renew his license. What happened totally amazed me. When his turn came up, he walked up to the counter, took his driver's license out of his wallet and handed it to the examiner. He said, "Ma'am. I am turning in my driver's license and ask you to revoke it." The lady looked at him in disbelief. He turned around walked back to me and said, "Let's go." The examiner was still staring at him as we walked out the door. As we were driving home I asked him why in the world he would turn in his license when he was in great physical shape. His response, "Son. Part of being a good driver is knowing when you can no longer operate a motor vehicle with out endangering others. My eyes are bad and reflexes are too slow. I have no business driving a car now."
That is really cool of him...I know that alot of elderly people feel like they will lose their freedom if they lose their license..its really sad yes..but your grandfather sounds like a very wise man
maddashell

Rosharon, TX

#20 Aug 1, 2008
wasn't his day? He took lives. He does not need to be driving and he doesn't need a drivers license.
What did he think when he had the first wreck? Sick your butt down somewhere. He didn't learn his lesson. So he continued to do what he wanted to do and look what it caused him. He was a threat to anyone in his path that day. I bet now he will sick his butt down. They have all sorts of transportation services for the elderly he should have taken advantage of that. No had to keep driving. He needed a horse and a buggy. 2 wrecks in 1 day. My God.
STARGAZER wrote:
Aww c'mon folks lighten up, it just wasn't his day....probably thinking about other things like his Viagra prescription and his hot date that evening.
70 ain't old I hate to tell ya....my mother still drives her car and she is 80.....<of course, we warn everyone to get off the road before she does>.
There has to be extenuating circumstances in this guy's case...perhaps he's on meds...if there is a medical reason, he should face appropriate charges..if he was just acting the fool and there is nothing wrong..then throw him in the clinker and lose the key...
maddashell

Rosharon, TX

#21 Aug 1, 2008
I had to misspelled words in my comments. He needed to sit his butt down somewhere. And I bet he will sit down somewhere now. I don't recommend jail time for the old guy, but he must never get behind the wheel of another car for the remainder of his natural life. He should have to pay for the damages he caused. He should have to pay a penalty for his crimes. Age does not matter. You commit a crime you must pay for it. So if he went out and shot and killed someone, don't put him in jail? Well he did kill someone and should be charged with involuntary vehicular homicide.

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