Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#192083 May 14, 2013
The Exterminator 6 wrote:
<quoted text>You're kidding, right? The LGBT community can not be brought to court and neither can ActUp and BashBack, but both have FBI hate crime records.
No, if all we need was an agenda, then we could claim that Matthew Shepard's lover, McKinney,was religious and it was a hate crime, when in fact McKinney was bisexual and killed Matt over drugs and money. Meth was on McKinney's mind.
But, don't let the truth change your mind.
Yeah, right.... and I saw Elvis at a bigfoot convention.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#192084 May 14, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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So what are you implying? Do you think that gay hate crimes never occur?
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Easy there VeeVee, I never said they didn't. There's more to the Sheppard story than previously reported. Accuracy is a pillar if responsible journalism.

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Maybe I was dreaming that time that a group of thugs surrounded my partner and I at a local swimming hole--calling us "fags" and telling us that we'd better get the fuck out of the river.
See, I had the audacity to carry his inner-tube up the river for him while we were out tubing on the river. It's not like we were walking hand-in-hand, kissing, or anything. But we weren't in hiding either. I was just being a gentleman to my partner.
It was our first get-away as a couple. We'd gone up the night before and planned on staying the weekend at a nice hotel. But the experience ruined our trip. We packed up and left that afternoon.
That was about 23 years ago. I've grown a lot since. I won't back down if someone threatens me. It kind of helps that I'm bigger than almost everybody.
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Again slow down there big fella. See above.

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Nevertheless, hate crimes do occur. Don't kid yourself for one minute.
I agree. But let's not trump a crime as a "hate crime" if its not just to further a political agenda or movement. It's an injustice to the victim.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#192085 May 14, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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I agree. But let's not trump a crime as a "hate crime" if its not just to further a political agenda or movement. It's an injustice to the victim.
I see the concept of 'hate crime' escapes you. Why doesn't that surprise me?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#192086 May 14, 2013
The Exterminator 6 wrote:
<quoted text>Really, perhaps they need to stop sampling opinions of folks in the San Francisco gay district.
Newsmax: 500,000 polled....74% opposed SSM
Topix poll: 66% opposed SSM
I just conducted a poll...100% of the respondents said that you were an idiot.
so you are completely clueless as to what is going on in the country... understood
Big D

Modesto, CA

#192087 May 14, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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So what should they base their effort "to impose immorality on others"?
LOL how about not pushing immorality on others in the first place.

Hard to do I know, it is the business they are in.

The reason for the decline of religion in America is directly related to their becoming more partisan politically, but that is not a course that is easy for them to change.

Politics is power, and power over others behavior is what religion is all about
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#192088 May 14, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Soon there will be no place for you to spew your filth.
Welcome to 2013 Minnesota.
But you will still be spewing yours until you die. It's your nature.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#192089 May 14, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Yeah, right.... and I saw Elvis at a bigfoot convention.
That's because you're psychotic. Elvis is dead. And big foot is not real.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#192090 May 14, 2013
Big D wrote:
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so you are completely clueless as to what is going on in the country... understood
Sure Big D, sure.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#192091 May 14, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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I agree. But let's not trump a crime as a "hate crime" if its not just to further a political agenda or movement. It's an injustice to the victim.
a "Hate Crime" is simply a way of proving premeditation and forethought, nothing political although the media tries to make it so. It isnít that the punishment is greater, it is the same as any other crime with premeditation and forethought.

"Hate Crime" is a misunderstood concept
ThreeMore

Covina, CA

#192092 May 14, 2013
Just heard 3 more states have signed on for passage.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#192093 May 14, 2013
ThreeMore wrote:
Just heard 3 more states have signed on for passage.
With more in the works, Nevada is working to overturn their ban, California's Prop 8 will be dead either this June or in the next election cycle.

Minnesota is up next I think on the fast track, but it is hard to keep up, things are moving quickly

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#192094 May 14, 2013
The Exterminator 6 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, we all know that hate crimes do occur. In fact, gays experience more hate crimes from other gays by far. Especially black gays.
The fact is, you gays lie and that is duly noted, the Matthew Shepard crime was not a hate crime based on his orientation and what happened to you also was not a crime. It could have escalated to that, but it did not.
Nevertheless, the fact remains that hate crimes against blacks and hate crimes based on religion far exceed hate crimes against gays and that includes the ones in the hands of other gays.
BY the way, Roy and Silo were never gay penguins, they were always a straight. You gays forgot to tell the end of the story, Roy left her platonic friend, Silo, for Chappy, a female penguin.
Once credibility is lost, it can never be returned.
From the U.S. Dept. of Justice...

Hate crime is the violence of intolerance and bigotry, intended to hurt and intimidate someone because of their race, ethnicity, national origin, religious, sexual orientation, or disability. The purveyors of hate use explosives, arson, weapons, vandalism, physical violence, and VERBAL THREATS OF VIOLENCE to instill fear in their victims, leaving them vulnerable to more attacks and feeling alienated, helpless, suspicious and fearful. Others may become frustrated and angry if they believe the local government and other groups in the community will not protect them.

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I guess what happened to my partner and me was a hate crime after all...

As I've said to others, sometimes it helps if you do a minimum of research on an issue before posting. It can help you to avoid looking like a fool.
Rock Hudson

Landrum, SC

#192095 May 14, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Yeah. It was great! Getting welcome back PM's from these clowns etc. No matter what I said they liked it because they thought I was a member of the club. Then it dawned on someone. Wait a minute...This ain't the real Old SniffsButt Bill! BAM! Disappeared. Even got some hate PMs!
Try it! You'll like it.
Sounds like it was big fun...
:-D
Were those PM's all sappy and shyte? Bunch of gushing nonsense?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#192096 May 14, 2013
Big D wrote:
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a "Hate Crime" is simply a way of proving premeditation and forethought, nothing political although the media tries to make it so. It isnít that the punishment is greater, it is the same as any other crime with premeditation and forethought.
"Hate Crime" is a misunderstood concept
Common sense is a misunderstood concept to you Big D.
Rock Hudson

Landrum, SC

#192097 May 14, 2013
The Exterminator 6 wrote:
<quoted text>6? I don't get it. Why ban your opponent? If your cause is right, then you want all to see that your opponent is wrong.
I'm using my greybox tag, as I'm out of state right now, S.C., at a loading dock. The reasons for my bannings are mysteries to me, as the Topix staff have not responded to any of my posts, requesting clarification for said actions. My guess is that, although both sides say profane and hateful things, I'm not in the "Cool Kids Club", the new nationally-approved crew, the group of minorities that is steering our new identity.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#192098 May 14, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
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Sounds like it was big fun...
:-D
Were those PM's all sappy and shyte? Bunch of gushing nonsense?
I almost got diabetes from them. Of course I gave them a nice snappy reply!
Rock Hudson

Landrum, SC

#192099 May 14, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Yes there were a lot of religious people in the US, but the US was not founded upon any religion, not our constitution, not our laws.
Why donít you go get yourself an island and proclaim your religious country there.
Our founders coined the phrase "Separation of Church and state", The father of the revolution actually signed a document stating that this nation was not in any way founded upon Christianity while he was president.
You go live on your island if you want, I live in the land of the free, a land of justice and equality.
You may be in the wrong country, there are however countries that do enforce their religion, where religion controls the nations laws, perhaps the Taliban is accepting applications.
You wont have your theocracy here.
You can have your island in the middle of the Hurricanes and such.. your imaginary playmate will protect you
We're not the ones that are changing the rules, you are. We liked it the way it was, therefore, you are the ones who need the island, not us. Your statement that it is we who should move is a classic. The obvious analogy here is one of low-class types moving into a nice neighborhood, letting their unruly destroy the neighborhood, and then responding to the long-time residents that if they are unhappy with the neighborhood, they are free to move. We were here first, and I've suggested before that you go and from your own country, and call it "Libertine-istan"... I'll buy you a ticket. One-way, of course.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#192100 May 14, 2013
Big D wrote:
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LOL how about not pushing immorality on others in the first place.
Hard to do I know, it is the business they are in.
The reason for the decline of religion in America is directly related to their becoming more partisan politically, but that is not a course that is easy for them to change.
Politics is power, and power over others behavior is what religion is all about
And power over everything is what Big D is all about.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#192101 May 14, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
We're not the ones that are changing the rules, you are. We liked it the way it was, therefore, you are the ones who need the island, not us. Your statement that it is we who should move is a classic. The obvious analogy here is one of low-class types moving into a nice neighborhood, letting their unruly destroy the neighborhood, and then responding to the long-time residents that if they are unhappy with the neighborhood, they are free to move. We were here first, and I've suggested before that you go and from your own country, and call it "Libertine-istan"... I'll buy you a ticket. One-way, of course.
Bravo!
Big D

Modesto, CA

#192102 May 14, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
We're not the ones that are changing the rules, you are. We liked it the way it was, therefore, you are the ones who need the island, not us. Your statement that it is we who should move is a classic. The obvious analogy here is one of low-class types moving into a nice neighborhood, letting their unruly destroy the neighborhood, and then responding to the long-time residents that if they are unhappy with the neighborhood, they are free to move. We were here first, and I've suggested before that you go and from your own country, and call it "Libertine-istan"... I'll buy you a ticket. One-way, of course.
Yes we Americans are, we are rejecting big government that tells us who we can marry and who we cannot.

We are removing the influence of the low class and unruly believers in various religions from dictating immorality to everyone else.

If however you want to have your morality dictated to you by a religious controlled government, there are a few still out there in the world, granted that none of them are very well thought of. Or you can buy and island and pray to your imaginary playmate that things go well for you there.

Jim Jones did something similar, you could follow his example

But you wonít dictate immorality to us in this country.

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