Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Yes. Any study that puts you in a less than perfect light is bogus and right wing lies. It's in the rainbow handbook.
Frankie...

I have a bachelor's degree in Sociology. I have a master's degree in Social Work.

Since 1984 I have been exposed to scholarly studies that look at many aspects of social behavior and mental health. I've written papers on them, discussed them with friends and colleagues, and basically been elbow deep in evaluating the methods used by other social scientists to draw conclusions re: any number of topics.

I am not biased when it comes to looking at data from an experiment. However, I won't blindly accept the conclusions drawn from a study until I've seen and reviewed the data and look at the many facets that are involved in doing a study.

Read the following piece from Salt Lake City's "Desert News"...

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765581831/...

Kimare has taken one of the studies discussed in this article and ran with it. He claims it as fact; just it like he uses his ridiculous "epi-marker/genetics mistake" theory.

He's no scientist. He is a preacher with an education in ministry.

He doesn't let the "facts" get in his way.

The bottom line concerning the outcomes of children is as follows: A child who is raised in a stable, loving, supportive, resourceful environment is going to do better than one who is not.

And there will always be those kids who have issues that are not related to the family's makeup. Take, for example, that kid who killed all of those children in Newtown Conn. He came from a household with support, resources, encouragement, etc. But he also had a mental disorder that resulted in tragic outcomes.

Finally, it is insincere to claim that a child of an intact, heterosexual, biological family will always do better than a child of an intact, same-sex family.

There just isn't conclusive evidence to say that this is factual.

Don't be fooled by Kimare.

He pulls studies out of his behind and makes them say exactly what he wants them to say.

I don't do that. If I've referenced a study here, it's because I've read it entirely and believe that it is sound.

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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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OK.. you're not straight. Keep repeating that. Who are you trying to convince? You seek out straight men to abuse and that's supposed to convince everyone that you are gay?
If you truly believe what you just said to Xavier, then you must accept his claim about you.

If you think that he comes here as a gay man who is actually a "closeted straight man" (is there such a thing?); in order to abuse other straight men, then you must accept that you are a closeted gay man who comes here to abuse other gay men.

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So, you are against pedophilia, because, you are really a pedophile? I get it.
You can't make a conclusion about pedophiles based on the study I referenced. The study focused on "homophobic men" (for lack of a better term)--not pedophiles.

If what you're saying is true, you must also be a pedophile because I'm assuming that you don't openly support pedophilia either.
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veryvermilion wrote:
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Frankie...
I have a bachelor's degree in Sociology. I have a master's degree in Social Work.
Since 1984 I have been exposed to scholarly studies that look at many aspects of social behavior and mental health. I've written papers on them, discussed them with friends and colleagues, and basically been elbow deep in evaluating the methods used by other social scientists to draw conclusions re: any number of topics.
I am not biased when it comes to looking at data from an experiment. However, I won't blindly accept the conclusions drawn from a study until I've seen and reviewed the data and look at the many facets that are involved in doing a study.
Read the following piece from Salt Lake City's "Desert News"...
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765581831/...
Kimare has taken one of the studies discussed in this article and ran with it. He claims it as fact; just it like he uses his ridiculous "epi-marker/genetics mistake" theory.
He's no scientist. He is a preacher with an education in ministry.
He doesn't let the "facts" get in his way.
The bottom line concerning the outcomes of children is as follows: A child who is raised in a stable, loving, supportive, resourceful environment is going to do better than one who is not.
And there will always be those kids who have issues that are not related to the family's makeup. Take, for example, that kid who killed all of those children in Newtown Conn. He came from a household with support, resources, encouragement, etc. But he also had a mental disorder that resulted in tragic outcomes.
Finally, it is insincere to claim that a child of an intact, heterosexual, biological family will always do better than a child of an intact, same-sex family.
There just isn't conclusive evidence to say that this is factual.
Don't be fooled by Kimare.
He pulls studies out of his behind and makes them say exactly what he wants them to say.
I don't do that. If I've referenced a study here, it's because I've read it entirely and believe that it is sound.
WOW! Real proud of you fruitloops!

I have a masters in geology. Sociology is one of the majors people fall back to after they drop out of geology. Those that can't hack real science do well in the Psuedo ah, er, social sciences.

P.S. How good a parent someone is or isn't is irrelevant to marriage equality.
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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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WOW! Real proud of you fruitloops!
I have a masters in geology. Sociology is one of the majors people fall back to after they drop out of geology. Those that can't hack real science do well in the Psuedo ah, er, social sciences.
P.S. How good a parent someone is or isn't is irrelevant to marriage equality.
Condescending much? Don't be a Kuntmary; that troll role is already taken.

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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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WOW! Real proud of you fruitloops!
I have a masters in geology. Sociology is one of the majors people fall back to after they drop out of geology. Those that can't hack real science do well in the Psuedo ah, er, social sciences.
P.S. How good a parent someone is or isn't is irrelevant to marriage equality.
Goodness! I didn't realize I was talking to someone who studies "rocks". That must take some REAL training. After all, they have brains and are complex, thinking objects.

Wait... I'm mistaken. Rocks are rocks. I must have been thinking about people and how difficult it is to understand human interactions and how the mind functions.

By the way, I cut my teeth on physics. That was my initial field of study. But I found it too impersonal and uninteresting when compared to the social and psychological sciences.

And finally, a person or couple's ability to parent has been made a key issue in the Prop. 8 and DOMA arguments--by YOUR side.

You guys are the ones who claim that same-gender parents are inadequate when it comes to raising a child.

But, hey, if you don't want to make it an issue, that's fine by me.

By the way, I've been collecting rocks since I was a kid. I have a hell of a collection. They're all over my house.
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End CA war on idiots who sit on the Glendora, California city council.

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frankies still dead mommy wrote:
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Condescending much? Don't be a Kuntmary; that troll role is already taken.
Reported! Death threat to my mother! Bullying! Stalking! Condescending!

Grow up and get over me Jizzy.
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In 2010, the District Attorney's Office dismissed 79 cases in which Mullock, Sacramento police officer, the only witness.

Investigators found that his reports in those cases didn't match the in-car camera videos.

Prosecutors also said he lied under oath during hearings, the little lying rat basd is finally off the road and out of uniform his one year prison term started Friday April 19, 2013 until April 19, 2014.
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veryvermilion wrote:
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Goodness! I didn't realize I was talking to someone who studies "rocks". That must take some REAL training. After all, they have brains and are complex, thinking objects.
Wait... I'm mistaken. Rocks are rocks. I must have been thinking about people and how difficult it is to understand human interactions and how the mind functions.
By the way, I cut my teeth on physics. That was my initial field of study. But I found it too impersonal and uninteresting when compared to the social and psychological sciences.
And finally, a person or couple's ability to parent has been made a key issue in the Prop. 8 and DOMA arguments--by YOUR side.
You guys are the ones who claim that same-gender parents are inadequate when it comes to raising a child.
But, hey, if you don't want to make it an issue, that's fine by me.
By the way, I've been collecting rocks since I was a kid. I have a hell of a collection. They're all over my house.
The bottom line is the only real science is physics, all the others are stamp collecting.

I worked in geophysics for 43 years for the USGS. My title was geologist but geophysics is what I did.

I'm real proud of you like I said fruitcake! I don't give a sh!t if you're proud of me. I bet your not.
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veryvermilion wrote:
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Goodness! I didn't realize I was talking to someone who studies "rocks". That must take some REAL training. After all, they have brains and are complex, thinking objects.
Wait... I'm mistaken. Rocks are rocks. I must have been thinking about people and how difficult it is to understand human interactions and how the mind functions.
By the way, I cut my teeth on physics. That was my initial field of study. But I found it too impersonal and uninteresting when compared to the social and psychological sciences.
And finally, a person or couple's ability to parent has been made a key issue in the Prop. 8 and DOMA arguments--by YOUR side.
You guys are the ones who claim that same-gender parents are inadequate when it comes to raising a child.
But, hey, if you don't want to make it an issue, that's fine by me.
By the way, I've been collecting rocks since I was a kid. I have a hell of a collection. They're all over my house.
I don't think same gender parents are inadequate. I fully support same sex marriage and parenting. Kids need loving parents wherever they can get them.

Perhaps you should strap down your knee. It tends to jerk and make a fool of you.

Hope that helps tough guy!
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veryvermilion wrote:
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...bla bla bla...angry rant...bla bla...By the way, I've been collecting rocks since I was a kid. I have a hell of a collection. They're all over my house.
And in your head!
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I see DUCK. OrAnGe feet, Just easier to walk backwards ... QUACK V v
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frankies still dead mommy wrote:
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Condescending much? Don't be a Kuntmary; that troll role is already taken.
I went to boot camp in your area Jizzy. Great Mistakes Naval Training Center.

It sucks there! Cold, windy and gray. It was 25 below for a few days for chrissakes. No wonder your such a dumb jackass!

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Rock Hudson wrote:
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Now, you're appearing to gain a sense of humor. Me like. We don't hate you, where'd you get that from? We just enjoy setting you straight (no pun intended). And, I don't belong in your fold, why don't you join the straights? Defend the rational side?
Maybe he's a straight man trapped in a gay man's body.

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How would marriage law be "re-written" for everyone by removing unconstitutional laws created relatively recently to harm gay Americans?
Do you really think that everyone will be forced to marry someone of the same gender? I promise you that this is not the case.
Gay people are too caring and polite to want to come into your home and create laws to harm your family.
It's simple courtesy. If something can't harm YOU, don't create laws banning it that harm others.
What specific harm do u refer to?

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Keeping marriage one man and one woman causes the least harm. Far less than outlawing same sex cohabitation. Let's be reasonable.
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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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The bottom line is the only real science is physics, all the others are stamp collecting.
I worked in geophysics for 43 years for the USGS. My title was geologist but geophysics is what I did.
I'm real proud of you like I said fruitcake! I don't give a sh!t if you're proud of me. I bet your not.
You worked as a janitor within the USGS. You gave BJs to the gay geo-eggheads as you made your rounds from dept to dept.
43 yrs blowing dudes. You studied their rocks off!

Too funny!!
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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I went to boot camp in your area Jizzy. Great Mistakes Naval Training Center.
It sucks there! Cold, windy and gray. It was 25 below for a few days for chrissakes. No wonder your such a dumb jackass!
You were the Jerry Sandusky of your training platoon. Rhythmic slapping was what you did best.

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