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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#183343 Mar 14, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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I clearly stated that procreation is ONE of the reasons that people get married. It, however, IS NOT the only reason that people marry.
If the only reason for marriage is procreation, then the government should ONLY be handing out licenses to fertile couples who clearly want to have children.
The government could even wait until the couple produces a child. People who feel it's wrong to have sex before marriage could have a religious ceremony before having sex.
veryvermilion wrote:
Using your stupid perspective, those who are infertile due to medical problems or age and those who are simply uninterested in having children SHOULD NOT be issued a license to marry.
These people, as you point out, are only arbitrary friends.
If you're going to refuse same-gender couples the right to marry due to their inability to "naturally" create life, then you're going to have to refuse marriage to those heterosexual couples who cannot have or do not want to have children as well.
Is that a step you're willing to take?
You won't get an answer. Well, maybe that stupid apple/walnut tree analogy.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#183344 Mar 14, 2013
Dorn wrote:
Gay married couples who do not have their own children are helping the Plant Earth decrease population growth rate.
Some countries are doing that on their own.
Gay married couples who have the natural urge to nourish children and adopt unwanted children should be applaulded.
Absolutely. Any person who adopts a child should be applauded
Big D

Modesto, CA

#183345 Mar 14, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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It works both ways. Not everyone is a secular saint on the other side.
In what way are same sex couples trampling the happiness of others? Unless...these others happiness is derived from denying happiness to other people?

It doesn’t matter which way you look at it does it?

One side is trying to deny happiness to others, while the other side is just trying to find their own happiness with no effect on anyone else.

There are 18,000 legally married same sex couples in California right now, didn’t hurt me, or my marriage to my wife in any way at all, no one has ever explained what harm it has done to anyone, not to me, and certainly not in court.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#183346 Mar 14, 2013
Procreation is a benefit of marriage, that's why government privileges marriage. Procreation isn't a requirement for marriage anymore than requiring people to eat only what they shoot would be a requirement for a hunting license.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#183347 Mar 14, 2013
Big D wrote:
The Taliban has an opening for you, you would like it there. Religion is mandated, anyone not conforming to social norms is not tolerated and harshly punished.
Pietro Armando wrote about procreation and marriage, not about religion.

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Big D wrote:
Just your style I prefer the land of the free, where equality and justice is more important, but that is just me.
Equality isn't the same as freedom, any law that enforces equality restricts someone's freedom. There is no gender equality right in the Constitution.

Since: Jan 12

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

#183348 Mar 14, 2013
Texas Senator files bill to legalize civil unions

http://dailytexanonline.com/blogs/the-update/...

Same sex couples would have access to many of the benefits and legal protections afforded to heterosexual married couples if a bill and several resolutions filed in the Texas Legislature gain approval.

The bill, filed by state Sen. Juan Hinojosa, D-McAllen, would partially repeal the Texas Defense of Marriage Act of 2003, which prevents Texas from recognizing same sex unions.

In a statement, Hinojosa cited a 2012 public opinion poll conducted by UT and The Texas Tribune showing that a majority of Texas voters favored some legal recognition of same-sex couples.

"Texans are now realizing the importance of providing same-gender couples the same protections that married couples receive," Hinojosa said.

The bill would provide same sex couples certain legal protections including property rights, adoption rights and worker compensation benefits.

One of the three constitutional amendments proposed last week by state Sen. Jose Rodriguez, D-El Paso, state Rep. Rafael Anchia, D-Dallas, or state Rep. Garnet Coleman, D-Houston, must pass in both the House and the Senate by a two-thirds majority vote and then approved by Texas voters in order for Hinojosa’s bill to take effect in 2014.

The proposed constitutional amendment would repeal the 2005 Texas Marriage Amendment to the Texas Constitution, which defines marriage as the union of one man and one woman and prohibits recognition of civil unions.

Chuck Smith, executive director of Equality Texas, an organization that lobbies for gay and transgender rights, said in a statement that Hinojosa’s legislation is the first step on a path toward recognizing rights for same-sex couples in Texas.

"We believe that every Texas family should be able to take care of those they love," Smith said.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#183349 Mar 14, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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The government could even wait until the couple produces a child. People who feel it's wrong to have sex before marriage could have a religious ceremony before having sex.
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You won't get an answer. Well, maybe that stupid apple/walnut tree analogy.
Oh maybe the government could say, "marriage is the union of husband and wife". That's it. Simple right? It covers it all. Men, women, sex, consummation, procreation, conception, presumption of paternity, etc. Both sexes involved.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#183350 Mar 14, 2013
I support civil unions, that is the perfect compromise to keep marriage male/female. If the Constituion prohibits calling same sex unions "civil unions", why not call it domestic partnerships and leave out the rights that require taxpayers provide benefits for same sex partners?

Same sex marriage means more wasteful government spending on entitlements for same sex dependent beneficiaries. If you want to cut spending and keep government from intruding into marriage, keep marriage as is, one man and one woman.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#183351 Mar 14, 2013
Big D wrote:
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In what way are same sex couples trampling the happiness of others? Unless...these others happiness is derived from denying happiness to other people?
It doesn’t matter which way you look at it does it?
One side is trying to deny happiness to others, while the other side is just trying to find their own happiness with no effect on anyone else.
There are 18,000 legally married same sex couples in California right now, didn’t hurt me, or my marriage to my wife in any way at all, no one has ever explained what harm it has done to anyone, not to me, and certainly not in court.
My answer was in response to:
Big D wrote:
Oh no, that perfectly describes religious types, they do evil and don’t care, they hurt others without any remorse and they don’t think the law or any morality or decency of this country of justice, equality and freedom apply to them, or to their efforts to trample on the happiness of others different from themselves.
It fits them perfectly.
Prop 8 Unconstitutional

Tempe, AZ

#183352 Mar 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
I support civil unions, that is the perfect compromise to keep marriage male/female. If the Constituion prohibits calling same sex unions "civil unions", why not call it domestic partnerships and leave out the rights that require taxpayers provide benefits for same sex partners?
Same sex marriage means more wasteful government spending on entitlements for same sex dependent beneficiaries. If you want to cut spending and keep government from intruding into marriage, keep marriage as is, one man and one woman.
There are over 1,000 rights that legally married couples enjoy that are NOT afforded to civil unions!What you're saying therefore is that gays are not good enough to have a fully legal marriage like there is now in 10 states by the way! Just love your bumper sticker posts! Hilarious,thanks for the laughs! Next!
Forkedya

Covina, CA

#183353 Mar 14, 2013
Roll On, it's going to be fun.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#183354 Mar 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Procreation is a benefit of marriage, that's why government privileges marriage. Procreation isn't a requirement for marriage anymore than requiring people to eat only what they shoot would be a requirement for a hunting license.
Damn, you are dumb.
Look, procreation just isn't a requirement for marriage. Period.
And it's not a benefit of marriage. You don't have to be married to procreate.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#183355 Mar 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
I support civil unions, that is the perfect compromise to keep marriage male/female. If the Constituion prohibits calling same sex unions "civil unions", why not call it domestic partnerships and leave out the rights that require taxpayers provide benefits for same sex partners?
Same sex marriage means more wasteful government spending on entitlements for same sex dependent beneficiaries. If you want to cut spending and keep government from intruding into marriage, keep marriage as is, one man and one woman.
LOL! Just admit you are a bigot!
Why do you homophobes talk about "taxpayers" as if gay people don't pay taxes?
And government intruding into marriage? Too late, stupid!

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#183357 Mar 14, 2013
Hey, Brian_G, what about this idea? The government will only recognize a marriage after the couple spawns. After all, you say "Procreation is a benefit of marriage, that's why government privileges marriage."
If the couple has an irrational belief that sex before marriage is wrong, they can get some sort of religious marriage that has no legal status, come on G, what do you say?

Since: Feb 13

San Jose, CA

#183358 Mar 14, 2013
In the judgment of the measures unconstitutional. Appeal process will begin, for the first time in 9 federal circuit court and then, if they decide to hear the case, the Supreme Court of the United States. this case, a vote was trying to define marriage. The voters passed the measures by 52% thinner.Now, not be decided at the Ballot box or on these forums. The Judges will decide it and we will Abide.http://iosvn.vn http://www.seoitc.com
Burnece

Chesapeake, OH

#183359 Mar 14, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
Hey, Brian_G, what about this idea? The government will only recognize a marriage after the couple spawns. After all, you say "Procreation is a benefit of marriage, that's why government privileges marriage."
If the couple has an irrational belief that sex before marriage is wrong, they can get some sort of religious marriage that has no legal status, come on G, what do you say?
Wow, you're one nasty a.ss queer.
Prop 8 Unconstitutional

Tempe, AZ

#183360 Mar 14, 2013
vanphammanh wrote:
In the judgment of the measures unconstitutional. Appeal process will begin, for the first time in 9 federal circuit court and then, if they decide to hear the case, the Supreme Court of the United States. this case, a vote was trying to define marriage. The voters passed the measures by 52% thinner.Now, not be decided at the Ballot box or on these forums. The Judges will decide it and we will Abide.http://iosvn.vn http://www.seoitc.com
And the Supreme court has in fact taken up this case and will make their final decision come this June! I personally believe they will rule on the side of equality,and also strike down DOMA as Unconstitutional! It's the Constitutional thing to do and the right thing to do! So,yes we shall see!
Randy-Rock-Hudso n

Westland, MI

#183361 Mar 14, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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WTF are you going on about, Bigfoot? Socialism?
So, you have a hard time remembering your posts, eh?

"
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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LOL. Con dumb parroting. You don't even know what socialism is! Why are you against the Constitution and equal rights?"

I believe that you were trying, yet again, to sound superior to someone....

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#183367 Mar 15, 2013
Prop 8 Unconstitutional wrote:
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There are over 1,000 rights that legally married couples enjoy that are NOT afforded to civil unions!What you're saying therefore is that gays are not good enough to have a fully legal marriage like there is now in 10 states by the way! Just love your bumper sticker posts! Hilarious,thanks for the laughs! Next!
Gays are good enough to marry just like everyone else. What makes you so special? Bumper sticker post? This from the crowd that puts rainbow bumper stickers on their cars.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#183368 Mar 15, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Damn, you are dumb.
Look, procreation just isn't a requirement for marriage. Period.
And it's not a benefit of marriage. You don't have to be married to procreate.
Damn you are dumb. Procreation is the reason marriage exists in the first place. There are TWO sexes, they have sex, the coital intercourse kind, and presto change o, a baby, or babies are made. Even one's named Rosie No Ho. Even babies who turn out gay are made this way. Hey that rhymes.

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