New O'Hare runway prompts noise compl...

New O'Hare runway prompts noise complaints in Park Ridge

There are 256 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jul 9, 2009, titled New O'Hare runway prompts noise complaints in Park Ridge. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Park Ridge residents say their skies have turned decidedly unfriendly since O'Hare International Airport 's new northern runway opened in November.

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Nor

Willowbrook, IL

#247 Sep 11, 2009
The new runway opened late last year. I didn't notice "excessive" noise until this summer.July and August were especially noisy. My guess is people are trying to live with it if they aren't complaining.They just wait til we give up.Or they are not upfront about the complaints. Imagine that; government not telling tthe truth..... You really don't know when it will be 7 days straight, all day. It is very frustrating to not have access to information. The ONCC is supposed to be looking out for us but when I spoke to Brian G he stated firmly that this is what it is, get your home sound reduced, you live in an nice area. And you are not in the noise zone and maybe in the future you will be considered to be. Yeah, like 6 years down the road. So I fully agree with EPG, king Daley gets what he wants and doesn't care who if affects adversely.
Marisa

Chicago, IL

#248 Sep 11, 2009
Nor wrote:
I wish at least they'd shift them a couple of blocks as a rotation. It makes a big difference. I live 3 houses from the corner of Bryn Mawr and sometimes see them further down the block south. They are loud but not as bad as just above the house. So sometimes we get two paths very close to each other.
I went on the O'Hare Noise CC website to see what the future holds for our runway which is 9R-27L. According to the "chart" for the daytime we will be getting "arrivals" 0.0% DURING THE DAY. However, at nite (10PM-7AM) we will be getting 59.8% of arrivals! The most out of any runway for day or nite arrivals or departures! This is project full build out by 2014.

Talking about two paths very close to each other - the Gunnison corridor to the south of us will be getting NO ARRIVALS at all day or nite in the future - just departures from the west side. But a brand new runway just to the North of us and sandwiched between the new Park Ridge one (called 27C -9C)will have "arrivals" 22.1% in the day and 2.9% at nite.

I wonder what other cities have done about noise abatement and flight caps?
Aja

Chicago, IL

#249 Sep 11, 2009
EdisonParkGuy wrote:
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Just curious, how was the turnout at this meeting this a.m.? I went to them last spring and not too many residents showed up.
ONCC is controlled by the City of Chicago from my understanding. The city owns the airport and the expansion is Daley's baby.
ord-rest dot com just sent out an email blast about a meeting in september with Park Ridges new airport committee. Check out that website
I was somewhat disappointed with the turnout, but don't forget it's a work day (I went into work late) and I was up by 6AM because the arrivals woke me up. I realized about 5 minutes into it, that we were talking to no one. One gentleman from Park Ridge (on the board) was upset because soundproofing was promised for Carpenter school in Park Ridge and now it's being withdrawn. He asked "why" but couldn't get an answer. They also couldn't answer where the monies had gone that was allocated to parocial schools for soundproofing and the schools are no longer there. No answer. I thought this was their job - that's why I say it was a "farce". Saw one guy sleeping - I don't know what suburb he was from. Then it seems that Bensenville just joint the ONCC - I am sure they were in it before but probably dropped out and now they're in again. The rep from Representative Jan Schakowsky's office raised her eyebrows a little when I told her that on Saturday, August 29th, the planes were going over as arrivals from 6AM to 12:45AM - non-stop with less than two minute intervals.
Aja

Chicago, IL

#250 Sep 11, 2009
Nor wrote:
The new runway opened late last year. I didn't notice "excessive" noise until this summer.July and August were especially noisy. My guess is people are trying to live with it if they aren't complaining.They just wait til we give up.Or they are not upfront about the complaints. Imagine that; government not telling tthe truth..... You really don't know when it will be 7 days straight, all day. It is very frustrating to not have access to information. The ONCC is supposed to be looking out for us but when I spoke to Brian G he stated firmly that this is what it is, get your home sound reduced, you live in an nice area. And you are not in the noise zone and maybe in the future you will be considered to be. Yeah, like 6 years down the road. So I fully agree with EPG, king Daley gets what he wants and doesn't care who if affects adversely.
The "arrival blitz" didn't start over the three corridors until around July 16th. I know because I was outside the whole week before working on my house outside with "normal" noise. This is what the new runway people don't know - that this kind of runaway traffic is NEW - they think it's "normal". In the past, I always thought the Gunnison corridor got the most arrival blast. I wonder if they have a lawsuit against the City of Chicago because on the new airway map, they will be having NO arrivals like Marisa said.
Nor

Willowbrook, IL

#251 Sep 11, 2009
I was told by Brian G that the new runway has nothing to do with us along Bryn Mawr. Today as we were getting arrivals they were coming in from strange directions. If what Marisa read is going happen when will these overnight arrivals begin? Sometime between now and 2013? Are airlines going to begin flying many more flights during the night?
It's shown on the ONCC map that people that got a lot of noise in the past will get none or little and people who got less will get more. I see Bryn Mawr going further east on that map for more. We've always had our share of noise but it was tolerable and fairly spread out with the caps. I read recently that the Bensenville new runway project has no funds to start and is trying to raise some. So these schools etc are probably not going to get any relief for a long time. I strongly wish we had more access to info. Also the lawsuit question makes me curious because the thought of a lawsuit has crossed the minds of our neighbors. My friend who lives Foster/Austin said it's been quieter for her this summer.
Aja

Chicago, IL

#252 Sep 11, 2009
Nor wrote:
I was told by Brian G that the new runway has nothing to do with us along Bryn Mawr. Today as we were getting arrivals they were coming in from strange directions. If what Marisa read is going happen when will these overnight arrivals begin? Sometime between now and 2013? Are airlines going to begin flying many more flights during the night?
It's shown on the ONCC map that people that got a lot of noise in the past will get none or little and people who got less will get more. I see Bryn Mawr going further east on that map for more. We've always had our share of noise but it was tolerable and fairly spread out with the caps. I read recently that the Bensenville new runway project has no funds to start and is trying to raise some. So these schools etc are probably not going to get any relief for a long time. I strongly wish we had more access to info. Also the lawsuit question makes me curious because the thought of a lawsuit has crossed the minds of our neighbors. My friend who lives Foster/Austin said it's been quieter for her this summer.
What I have read is "Full Build Out" in others words - the runways and new configurations will be totally done in 2014 (in time, you know, for the Olympics).

Yea, the "arrivals" were coming in a funny angles this morning.

On Monday, September 21, 2009, the ORD-REST people will be having a meeting at the Park Ridge Public Library - 20 South Prospect (Northwest Highway) from 7PM-9PM.
joy

Fuzhou, China

#253 Sep 15, 2009
Nor

Willowbrook, IL

#254 Sep 24, 2009
Thank God for East winds.......................
frank

Glendale Heights, IL

#256 Oct 2, 2009
Nor wrote:
Thank God for East winds..........
Got that right!!! These past 11 months (since the new runway) have been the best, most quiet, ten months since we moved to DP 6.5 years ago! Amazing what a change in our stress level. Feel for those under the new(er) runway, but man it is good (and quiet) here!
Marisa

Chicago, IL

#257 Oct 5, 2009
I couldn't understand where all these extra pilots were coming from to man all these extra flights. This morning on the news they said there was a pilot's strike in London because the pilots are forced to work 14 to 16 hours days and they feel it's unsafe.

Good going, FAA!
Marisa

Chicago, IL

#258 Oct 5, 2009
I couldn't understand where all these extra pilots were coming from to man these extra flights.

This morning on the news they said there was a pilot's strike in London because they had to work 14 to 16 hour days and they felt it was unsafe.

Good going, FAA!
Mel

United States

#259 Mar 4, 2010
Saluki Rod wrote:
What'll be next? Moving next to a bar and complaining about the drunks?
Off topic---Unfortunately every small college town in America complains about that...now that's ridiculous, those colleges were built 100 years before airplanes existed, let alone O'Hare...someone tell them to quit complaining about their stolen lawn gnomes
NW Side of Chicago

United States

#260 Apr 10, 2010
Lost in the joy of acquiring federal money and short term jobs, is the issue of how the Noise and Air Pollution effects thousands of O'Hare's residential neighbors on the northwest side of Chicago and dozens of suburbs. Already a problem in the area, increased and expanded runways will aggravate the pollution for those currently affected and thousands of additional families soon to join the ranks of those whose lives are affected. Now is not the time nor is O'Hare the place for this expansion.

Need to remember that many of the newly affected residents were there before the bulldozing of neighborhoods and expansion. No matter how far away you are now, some day those big bastards will affect you too.
Nor

Willowbrook, IL

#261 Apr 10, 2010
I never see any positive news on how there will be any change or consideration for residents affected bu O'Hare. I will move when the time is right. I am trying to accept the noise best as possible. I hate the city I once loved. I told my husband that this spring, summer and fall will be on climate control if the winds are coming from the west. I don't care if my electric bill is $500 a month. No open windows anymore due to plane pollution and excess noise. We live directly under the arrival lane along Bryn Mawr.
Go Blue

Lake Worth, FL

#262 Apr 26, 2010
JOW wrote:
When my sister and brother-in-law were visiting a month to help me with a garage sale I was having, several 747s and other larger planes were on their approach to land. Jeff said how can you stand that noise? I said, I guess you just become immune to it after living in the Roselle area for more than 20 years. As to one post saying if you don't like it move: Much easier said than done. Have you checked the housing market lately???
Yeah but, how did the garage sale go?
Aja

Chicago, IL

#263 May 1, 2010
Nor wrote:
I never see any positive news on how there will be any change or consideration for residents affected bu O'Hare. I will move when the time is right. I am trying to accept the noise best as possible. I hate the city I once loved. I told my husband that this spring, summer and fall will be on climate control if the winds are coming from the west. I don't care if my electric bill is $500 a month. No open windows anymore due to plane pollution and excess noise. We live directly under the arrival lane along Bryn Mawr.
I also live off "Bryn Mawr" arrival runway course. Of course you know that the plan for the "Bryn Mawr" "Higgins" runway "27L" whatever you want to call it is going to be changed once the full expansion is completed around 2013(?). "Our" runway will have "0%" arrivals during the day/nighttime hours of 7AM - 10PM. We will have almost 60% arrivals during nighttime hours of 10PM to 7AM. But the "new" runway yet to be built called "27C" (along Granville Avenue)is very close to us - little north of Peterson and South of Devon and that will be running arrivals during the day. Overall, however, it would be better than it is now I suppose. When Dick Durbin took the flight caps off right before the Park Ridge runway opened, that's when things turned bad with flights coming over in 47 second intervals on arrival days.

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