Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

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When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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litesong

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coal is kinking climate coughed:
What does it matter if the climate gets warmer?
In my opinion it would be a good thing. All that land in the north that is too cold for crops will be able to grow more food for more people.
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First, all the permafrost must thaw, the bacteria sending trillions of tons of methane into the air. Maybe "coal is kinking climate" can drape millions of square miles of methane trapping tarps on the permafrost & start a new industry. However, that still leaves millions of square miles of methane clathrate thawings in oceans to deal with. "coal is kinking climate" just says, "In for an ounce, in for trillions of tons!"

The following will cheer "coal is kinking climate".
http://theenergycollective.com/josephromm/215...

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fishface wrote:
New Discovery: NASA Study Proves Carbon Dioxide Cools Atmosphere
New discovery?

No, well know phenomenon.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/95...

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/Bright-G...
Bushwhacker

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It's -14 in Minnesota in mid April.

Global Cooling it is!!
litesong

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fishface flopped:
New Discovery: NASA Study Proves Carbon Dioxide Cools Atmosphere
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New discovery?

No, well known phenomenon.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/95 ...

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/Bright-G ...
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litesong wrote:
The flop of 'fishface' was so poor, it sounded like it was talking about something new. I'm glad that 'Fair Game' can interpret toxic topix AGW denier dialect so well......

Of course, toxic topix AGW denier dialect is normally wrong.
litesong

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Bushwhacker wrote:
It's -14 in Minnesota in mid April.
Global Cooling it is!!
Two days ago, it was -29degC on the north shores of Hudson's Bay. Warm fronts have been around the NP for 180 days out of the last 220 days, flushing cold Arctic air to the south. You should be cold.

However, from the southern tip of Greenland to northern Russia, temperatures have been above freezing, as high as 21 degC.(70degF).

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litesong wrote:
fishface flopped:
New Discovery: NASA Study Proves Carbon Dioxide Cools Atmosphere
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New discovery?
No, well known phenomenon.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/95 ...
http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/Bright-G ...
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litesong wrote:
The flop of 'fishface' was so poor, it sounded like it was talking about something new. I'm glad that 'Fair Game' can interpret toxic topix AGW denier dialect so well......
Of course, toxic topix AGW denier dialect is normally wrong.
Thanks for correcting my typo!

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COAL IS KING wrote:
What does it matter if the climate gets warmer?
In my opinion it would be a good thing. All that land in the north that is too cold for crops will be able to grow more food for more people.
Here is what still doesn't sink in with the deniers. It matters a great deal because it means extreme weather all over the planet. Some places become uninhabitable, some coastal regions go under water and the next thing you know millions of refugees pushing on your borders. Wars break out over land, and we have to find new ways to grow crops to feed ourselves. This is the doomsday scenario that will surely follow once storms, floods, drought, & extreme winters hit vast habitable regions that only saw these events once in a 100yrs to suddenly see it every 2nd year or annually. That is CLIMATE CHANGE not a f...g long hot summer or 10 ft of snow outside my window that these ignorant posts keep repeating. No economy can recover from that on those frequencies. So its a mighty big risk to ignore all of those factors just because you refuse to change your lifestyle.
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COAL IS KING wrote:
What does it matter if the climate gets warmer?
In my opinion it would be a good thing. All that land in the north that is too cold for crops will be able to grow more food for more people.
Yeah, I know! It's simple, isn't it?

I wonder why all those plant biologists, zoologists, hydrologists, and ecologists, with all their years of college, can't understand that?

Do you think that they know something we don't?'Scuse me, that you don't?
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But they 'own unburnable fossil fuels'...
... there is a danger of a carbon "bubble."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment...

Everywhere the plume went, the die-off went," Hollander said.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/environment/wate ...

In some areas where the die-off occurred, he said, the tiny creatures came back, but in others the bottom remains bare. Meanwhile, some of the burrowing kind are digging down into the contaminated sediment and stirring it up all over again.
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litesong wrote:
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Two days ago, it was -29degC on the north shores of Hudson's Bay. Warm fronts have been around the NP for 180 days out of the last 220 days, flushing cold Arctic air to the south. You should be cold.
However, from the southern tip of Greenland to northern Russia, temperatures have been above freezing, as high as 21 degC.(70degF).
What BS are you pimping???

45F today at the NP which is 6 degrees below average.

http://www.wunderground.com/weather-forecast/...

Get real.
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Global Warming/Climate Change is hoax and has made Gore hundreds of millions of dollars and cost the US taxpayer hundreds of bilions, into the trillions in misspent, wasted, and idiotic spending. If these shysters have a better mousetrap let them fund it. The Obamas will make billons of dollars on profit sharing in kickbacks for giving our money to his crooked fiends.
litesong

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Bushwhacker wrote:
What BS are you pimping???
45F today at the NP which is 6 degrees below average.
http://www.wunderground.com/weather-forecast/...
Get real.
While I referred to the geographic NP in the Arctic Ocean, you referred to North Pole, Alaska, near Fair Banks, Alaska. You're the one pimping BS....... in full.

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Bushwhacker wrote:
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What BS are you pimping???
45F today at the NP which is 6 degrees below average.
http://www.wunderground.com/weather-forecast/...
Get real.
if the north pole average temp is 51 degrees there would not be much ice there. You do know that ice melts above 32 don't you?
Bushwhacker

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Boy you guys are quick to defend your junk posts.

Fact of the matter is the NP AND Minnesota are VERY COLD. In fact ALL TIME cold temps are being recorded as we speak.

Remember the "experts" were saying a year ago the above average temps were CLEAR evidence of "Global Warming".

You fools need to get real!!!

Stupid can't be fixed, I truly feel soory for you..
litesong

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litesong wrote:
Two days ago, it was -29degC on the north shores of Hudson's Bay. Warm fronts have been around the NP for 180 days out of the last 220 days, flushing cold Arctic air to the south. You should be cold.
However, from the southern tip of Greenland to northern Russia, temperatures have been above freezing, as high as 21 degC.(70degF).
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bushwacker beefed:
What BS are you pimping???

45F today at the NP which is 6 degrees below average.

http://www.wunderground.com/weather-forecast/ ...

Get real.
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litesong wrote;
If you didn't believe my temps for the north shore of Hudson's Bay:
http://climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/climateDat...

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Bushwhacker wrote:
Boy you guys are quick to defend your junk posts.
Fact of the matter is the NP AND Minnesota are VERY COLD. In fact ALL TIME cold temps are being recorded as we speak.
Remember the "experts" were saying a year ago the above average temps were CLEAR evidence of "Global Warming".
You fools need to get real!!!
Stupid can't be fixed, I truly feel soory for you..
We all know who the stupid ppl are, when they keep repeating posts of the ignorant. Like the things you hear on shock jock radio or Fox news. Global warming for your info is NOTHING to do with temps on any one day or any one week. It's all about weather changing that is adverse to the human condition. In other words not having reliability for cropping because the chances are your crops will be destroyed by extreme weather. Same as housing, the environment where you live and climate zones shifting. That is the result of global warming, it can bring 10 ft of snow, or 10 ft of water or 10 ft of dry desert sand or it can blow your home away in a instant.
This can be easily googled any time you might care to look.
Take the tornado count for 2012 for instance.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/to...

Unfortunately for deniers so entrenched in a one sided argument that climate change will always be a cycle until the sun doesn't come up the next day. That pretty much sums you guys up, as long as there is night and day anything that happens in between is considered normal.
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It's very sad you are incapable of understanding the difference between average weather and regular abnormal weather.

One year of abnormal weather DOES NOT constitute a "Climate Change" OR evidence of "Global Warming".

Abnormal weather is the norm, you ignorant experts need to appreciate it. Normal or average weather is just that an average or normal established by considering weather conditions over a recorded period of time, recorded history.
litesong

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bushwhacked wrote:
It's very sad you are incapable of understanding the difference between average weather and regular abnormal weather.
you ignorant experts need to appreciate it.......... considering weather conditions over a recorded period of time, recorded history.
So glad you told the shortcomings of AGW scientists, who only have 10-16 years more science & mathematics than you.

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Earth was cooling until a century ago when it began to warm
From: AFP April 22, 2013 9:10AM
EARTH was cooling until the end of the 19th century and a hundred years later the planet's surface was on average warmer than at any time in the previous 1400 years, according to climate records. In a study spanning two millennia published in Nature Geoscience, scientists say a "long-term cooling trend" around the world swung into reverse in the late 19th century. In the 20th century, the average global temperature was 0.4C higher than that of the previous 500 years, with only Antarctica bucking the trend. From 1971-2000, the planet was warmer than at any other time in nearly 1400 years. This measure is a global average, and some regions did experience warmer periods than that - but only for a time. Europe, for instance, was probably warmer in the first century AD than at the end of the 20th century. The investigation is the first attempt to reconstruct It seeks to shed light on a fiercely contested aspect in the global warming debate.
Sceptics have claimed bouts of cooling or warming before the Industrial Revolution - including two episodes in Europe called the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age - are proof that climate variations are natural, not man-made. The new study does not wade into the debate about greenhouse gases, but points to two planetary trends. The first is a clear, prolonged period of cooling. It may have been caused by a combination of factors, including an increase in volcanic activity, with stratospheric ashes reflecting the sunlight, or a decrease in solar activity or tiny changes in Earth's orbit, both of which would diminish sunlight falling on the planet.
The cooling - between 0.1-0.3C per thousand years, depending on the region - went into reverse towards the end of the 19th century, and was followed by an intensifying period of warming in the 20th, the paper said. Previous research into climate change has pointed to a warming spurt in the 20th century and attributed it to the rise of heat-trapping carbon gases emitted by burning coal, oil and gas. The warming trend shifted up a gear in the middle of the 1970s, in line with record-breaking levels of carbon dioxide (CO2), according to this past research.

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gcaveman1 wrote:
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When we see the signatures of extra-terrestrial impacts all over our planet, during all the Ages of the Earth; when we look to the Moon, Mars, Mercury, and the moons of other planets, and we see the scars and craters remaining through all the eons of their existence; when we witness impacts with the gaseous planets now, using our modern sky-gazing equipment; yes, we know more impacts are inevitable.
But we are not sure that we have ever seen warming on this planet progressing at the rate the current warming is, and we have a pretty firm idea that our actions are causing it. The "maybe" and "could be" is now at the 95% confidence level. You are backing a 5% uncertainty and I certainly hope that isn't the way you place most of your bets.
If so, you're going to lose your ass at the racetrack.
You've already lost your credibility on this thread. Don't ask me to loan you any money to go to the track.
We are the only conscious beings in an unconscious universe. Get over it.
And science saying 27 years of "maybe" a crisis proves it "won't be" a crisis.

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