MARRIAGE RALLIES: Two groups with dif...

MARRIAGE RALLIES: Two groups with different views on same-sex marri...

There are 85 comments on the WHOtv story from Aug 1, 2010, titled MARRIAGE RALLIES: Two groups with different views on same-sex marri.... In it, WHOtv reports that:

One of the big topics leading up to November is gay marriage and the prospect of a constitutional amendment to define marriage in Iowa.

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Outraged

Dubuque, IA

#1 Aug 1, 2010
We have the right to vote. The Iowa Supreme Court voted against the law that the people of Iowa voted in as law in 1997. This law stated that marriage is between one man and one woman. Since the Iowa Supreme Court ruled against the people of Iowa, these same Iowans should have the right to vote to change the wording of the Iowa Constitution that was used against their law. We are being blocked from voting by the current governor and Iowa Congress. This is not right! There should be measures in place so that these branches of government do not have the power to take away the vote of the people.
COViking88

Des Moines, IA

#2 Aug 1, 2010
This state has a proud history of giving freedoms, even our state flag shows support of this, "Our Liberties we prize and our Rights we will maintain". I hope this state never sets a precedent of giving basic rights that everyone should be able to enjoy then retract. Marriage was first brought forth by the Hammurabi Codes mid 1700's BC. On this basis, religious beliefs should not have any input on how marriage should be defined. Marriage is not a religious institution; it's a social institution.
Teddy

Northfield, MN

#3 Aug 1, 2010
Outraged wrote:
We have the right to vote. The Iowa Supreme Court voted against the law that the people of Iowa voted in as law in 1997. This law stated that marriage is between one man and one woman. Since the Iowa Supreme Court ruled against the people of Iowa, these same Iowans should have the right to vote to change the wording of the Iowa Constitution that was used against their law. We are being blocked from voting by the current governor and Iowa Congress. This is not right! There should be measures in place so that these branches of government do not have the power to take away the vote of the people.
The reason the Supreme Court overturned the law is because it was deemed unconstitutional. In other words, the law itself was illegal. This wasn't a ruling against the people of Iowa (the majority of whom, 53%, now support same-sex marriage). Laws that violate the Constitution must be struck down in the name of equality. Its really as simple as that. If you want to live in a place where all people aren't treated equally under the law, you'll have to look elsewhere.

The fact that there were almost 3.5 times as many people who showed up to support same-sex marriage as those who opposed it sends a very strong message: equality will prevail.
Outraged

Dubuque, IA

#4 Aug 1, 2010
The gay lifestyle is a life style choice, simply that. People choose to have affairs, sex outside of marrige, etc., etc., etc., but it is a choice that person makes. You are born male or female, you don't choose your color of skin or race. Your sexual life is your choice, it is not in the same category. Science does not even back up your platform. I am sick of this being made a Civil Rights issue when it is not, it is simply a lifestyle choice. I don't know where the 53% now supports this comes from, but I have never been polled and frankly I don't know of anyone who has.
Outraged

Dubuque, IA

#5 Aug 1, 2010
There is suppose to be a poll on this website for me to voice my opinion. This is why I longed onto the WHO site. However, I am unable to locate it so I still am not able to vote so that my voice will be heard. This why I am commenting here.
Aaron

Ames, IA

#6 Aug 1, 2010
Its sick that people want to take away others freedoms. Its easy for them to say its wrong even though letting those people be happy has no effect on them. It's just selfish. I also believe that the argument marriage is between a man and a woman is BS. That makes it seem so hollow and meaningless. Marriage is between two people who love each other. People need to stop being so hateful and have compassion for others.
Outraged

Dubuque, IA

#7 Aug 2, 2010
What is the scientific reason for sex; to procreate so that we can continue our society? Anything outside of this just involves emotions which should have no place in making Civil Rights legal decisions of this kind.

If gay couples choose to live together that is their choice, but it should not be called a marriage. I remember going into a chat room about the Harry Potter books years ago and some pervert was on the site saying it wasn’t anybody else’s business if he chose to show love to his children by having sex with them. We are setting up a dangerous platform here by saying the gay life style is a natural lifestyle. More and more people are going to come forth and say they ought to be able to be married to/have sex with children, have several wives, marry their pets, etc. In the case of the children you are taking away their rights.

What will happen and is happening is my freedom of speech will disappear and I will not be able to speak out against it. It is already getting to the point where I am unable to speak out against gay marriage and people are getting to where they are afraid to speak out against gay marriage and if they do they are accused of being evil. That is not fair. Do you think that people in Germany agreed with Hitler when he started his reign? People were afraid to speak out or lose their life and some were eventually brainwashed into believing that what he was doing was right. This is what the gay rights movement is doing to us now, brainwashing us. I will stand up for what is right for as long as my Amendment rights allow me to.
Gretchen

Hollister, CA

#8 Aug 2, 2010
fr outraged:

>... I am sick of this being made a Civil Rights issue when it is not, it is simply a lifestyle choice....<

Being GLBT is NOT "a lifestyle choice", and yes, it IS a Civil Rights issue. Grow UP and get a flippin' life. Quit listening to jimmy dobdork and his gang of four.

“Down To Earth”

Since: Apr 07

Indianapolis

#9 Aug 2, 2010
Outraged wrote:
We have the right to vote...
You don't have the right to vote on people's rights.

It's just that simple.
Helpful

Chicago, IL

#10 Aug 2, 2010
To Outraged,

The poll is located under the "As Seen On" category in the top Blue bar of the home page.
Click on it and you will see the poll and you can vote there.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#11 Aug 2, 2010
Outraged wrote:
What is the scientific reason for sex; to procreate so that we can continue our society? Anything outside of this just involves emotions which should have no place in making Civil Rights legal decisions of this kind.

..........
If you really believe that marriage is ONLY about sex, and emotions and a person's emotional well-being have nothing at all to do with it, then I pity your poor spouse.

If what you say is true, then no couple past the age of childbearing would ever be allowed to marry, and no infertile couples would ever marry, and certainly no couple who CHOOSES not to have children would be allowed to marry, or stay married.

But, of course, that's not the case, is it?

Since black people were perfectly capable of procreating with other black folks, and white folks had no trouble proctreating with white folks, why was the ban preventing them from marrying eachother struck down?

Hmmmm.

Perhaps it was because the courts believed that marriage was about so much more than having sex to make babies.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#12 Aug 2, 2010
Outraged wrote:
The gay lifestyle is a life style choice, simply that. People choose to have affairs, sex outside of marrige, etc., etc., etc., but it is a choice that person makes. You are born male or female, you don't choose your color of skin or race. Your sexual life is your choice, it is not in the same category. Science does not even back up your platform. I am sick of this being made a Civil Rights issue when it is not, it is simply a lifestyle choice. I don't know where the 53% now supports this comes from, but I have never been polled and frankly I don't know of anyone who has.
Silly One, being gay is not a chosen lifestyle, it is one's innate sexual orientation.

You can't choose to have no attraction to the opposite sex, and more than you can choose to have such an attraction. Choosing requires more than one option to CHOOSE from. You can't choose something that you can never have.

And yes, science actually does back up our "platform" for equality. Science, however, does not back up your ideas.

Of course marriage is a civil rights issue. It always has been, and it will continue to be. Why in the world would you vote to harm someone else's family? Why should anyone have the right to do that?

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#13 Aug 2, 2010
Outraged wrote:
We have the right to vote. The Iowa Supreme Court voted against the law that the people of Iowa voted in as law in 1997. This law stated that marriage is between one man and one woman. Since the Iowa Supreme Court ruled against the people of Iowa, these same Iowans should have the right to vote to change the wording of the Iowa Constitution that was used against their law. We are being blocked from voting by the current governor and Iowa Congress. This is not right! There should be measures in place so that these branches of government do not have the power to take away the vote of the people.
The people do not have the right to strip away basic civil and human rights of a law abiding minority. That's what this is about.

I'm sure if I had the ability, and the inclination, to vote your marriage out of existance for some basic physical trait you have, you would fight such a vote tooth and nail. You would fight to protect yourself, your loved ones, and perhaps even for those young folks to follow.

Don't be hypocritical in acting offended when gay people do exactly the same thing that you would do, under the same circumstances.

You harm us, and our families, and we fight you. It's pretty simple.

And we are winning.
Margaret

Johnston City, IL

#14 Aug 2, 2010
Children growing up should not be faced with the choice of what sex will I like to be married to. Kids exploring sexualality as normal ..will not feel normal. I feel they will think that at the time...I don't like girls...etc...so I chose to never like them. It is all about the money that this has been protected by the democratic majority.
Gbl891

Greenfield, IA

#15 Aug 2, 2010
Let the People vote.
Leo

Chanhassen, MN

#16 Aug 2, 2010
How can anyone discriminate when you can't tell who is and who isn't gay? They have to tell you. Don't tell me and I won't ask.

Marriage is one man and one woman or marriage is meaningless.
raising an eyebrow

West Des Moines, IA

#17 Aug 2, 2010
So if marriage is only meaningful between a man and a woman because it supports pro creation which drives our society is it still meaningful when a man and a woman who are not married have a baby and never speak to each other again nor hold themselves accountable for raising a productive citizen in said society?

Let people make there own decisions....I am 26 years old and even I can't understand why as a nation we have come so far to give everyone else the freedom of choice but we fall short here.

Might as well keep the women in the kitchen and bring back slave labor too....after all no sense in moving forward anymore.
raising an eyebrow

West Des Moines, IA

#18 Aug 2, 2010
You dont have to be married to have kids and you dont have to have kids if you want to get married...and you should be able to marry whoever you want.
edwin hobbs

Allerton, IA

#19 Aug 2, 2010
yes! let's vote! vote on seatbelts, smoking in bars, etc. on gay marriage those against it are either uninformed or homophobic, bolstered by those who hide in their "religion"!

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#20 Aug 2, 2010
Gbl891 wrote:
Let the People vote.
The majority can not vote on rights of the minority. It is unconstitutional.

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