Three Iowa supreme court judges could...

Three Iowa supreme court judges could lose their jobs

There are 86 comments on the WHOtv story from Oct 31, 2010, titled Three Iowa supreme court judges could lose their jobs. In it, WHOtv reports that:

On Tuesday, one or more Supreme Court judges could be unemployed and it's never happened in Iowa like this before.

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James

Ames, IA

#1 Oct 31, 2010
Vander Plaats is demonstrating the ignorance that many Iowans seem to have about our government. I find it sad that many people did not take or pay attention to their government classes, especially someone like Vander Plaats who is a POLITICIAN?!
The Iowa Supreme court is not supposed to be held accountable to the people; it is supposed to be held accountable to the Iowa Constitution. They did NOT create any legislative laws; they deemed a law (same-sex marriage ban) unconstitutional. If this upsets you, your frustration should be with the Constitution, not the justices. Firing the judges will not change anything. New judges will be accountable to uphold the same Iowa Constitution that the current ones do. The only way to re-instate the same-sex marriage ban is to change the Iowa Constitution.
Iowans, please study how the government works and is supposed to function. Vander Plaats is feeding an ignorant smear campaign against judges who are doing their job.

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Dan

Des Moines, IA

#2 Oct 31, 2010
I saw Bob Ray on TV saying that people should vote against retention, and I thought "hey Bob, we all thought you were a great guy, but who decides this - ex governors, or the people of Iowa?"

and he was for polk county des moines merger, and you just KNOW that would have been a corruption riddled disaster. You want police Chief Judy Bradshaw having jurisdiction over you?

I sure as hell dont
RANDO

Ankeny, IA

#3 Nov 1, 2010
NO NO NO, thats how my ballot is going to read come Tuesday night..... Good post Dan
Billp

Georgetown, DE

#4 Nov 1, 2010
I hope their collective resume's are dusted off.

I and other are voting no on all of them.

There needs to be term limits for all government offices and appointments like judges. Your in office too long, you begin to think your above the law.

Good Bye Justices
Tim

Chanhassen, MN

#5 Nov 1, 2010
NO,NO,NO. I can't wait until tomorrow. These three are just the start.
Outsider

Radcliffe, IA

#6 Nov 1, 2010
JJames, if the folks thought judges should be elected for life why is there a provision for us to vote them out??????
I think someone wanted them to be held accountable to the people. And I for one am very happy about that.
Never forget: Ultimate Power Corrupts Ultimately.
NO NO NO
juergen

Panama City, FL

#7 Nov 1, 2010
Rule of law? HA HA HA. Rule of the mob!
tack111p

Des Moines, IA

#8 Nov 1, 2010
I understand that the issue of retaining justices and the fight to oust them is seeded in the gay marriage debate, but I think there is an issue being overlooked. I don't know anything about Baker or Streit, but Marsha Ternus needs to go.

On or about July 17th, 2009, Marsha Ternus' husband was arrested at their residence for interference with official acts after Polk County Sheriff's deputies responded to their house for a report of an under age drinking party. In addition, several juveniles were cited for possession of alcohol under age. Ternus' husband, who is also an attorney plead guilty to harassment of a public official.

Marsha Ternus never admitted having knowledge of the underage drinking and dodged questions pertaining to whether or not she was home.

Whether or not Ternus should be retained in regards to the gay marriage debate is one thing, but the real issue is that she clearly lacks the moral and ethical fortitude required to run the state's highest court. Police Officers and other government officials would have been forced to resign or fired for such a breach of ethics.

So in closing, DO NOT RETAIN MARSHA TERNUS. She is not qualified for the job.
Yessir

San Francisco, CA

#9 Nov 1, 2010
Dan wrote:
I saw Bob Ray on TV saying that people should vote against retention, and I thought "hey Bob, we all thought you were a great guy, but who decides this - ex governors, or the people of Iowa?"
and he was for polk county des moines merger, and you just KNOW that would have been a corruption riddled disaster. You want police Chief Judy Bradshaw having jurisdiction over you?
I sure as hell dont
Ummm.... he's recommending retention.
Victor

Waseca, MN

#10 Nov 1, 2010
See if you can match up the spelling errors and unnecessary capitalization with the opinions. It's a fun game.
Wow

San Francisco, CA

#11 Nov 1, 2010
What about the other half of the people that dont have a problem with this "issue", it would seem everyone is ignoring half the populace.
bocefus

San Francisco, CA

#12 Nov 1, 2010
tack111p wrote:
I understand that the issue of retaining justices and the fight to oust them is seeded in the gay marriage debate, but I think there is an issue being overlooked. I don't know anything about Baker or Streit, but Marsha Ternus needs to go.
On or about July 17th, 2009, Marsha Ternus' husband was arrested at their residence for interference with official acts after Polk County Sheriff's deputies responded to their house for a report of an under age drinking party. In addition, several juveniles were cited for possession of alcohol under age. Ternus' husband, who is also an attorney plead guilty to harassment of a public official.
Marsha Ternus never admitted having knowledge of the underage drinking and dodged questions pertaining to whether or not she was home.
Whether or not Ternus should be retained in regards to the gay marriage debate is one thing, but the real issue is that she clearly lacks the moral and ethical fortitude required to run the state's highest court. Police Officers and other government officials would have been forced to resign or fired for such a breach of ethics.
So in closing, DO NOT RETAIN MARSHA TERNUS. She is not qualified for the job.
Some kid got drunk at his mom's house. Get over it.
Rod

West Des Moines, IA

#13 Nov 1, 2010
Actually, the issue isn't about gay marriage. The issue is about the courts rewriting the laws, in their own words. Rather than the words of the people who passed the laws. It wouldn't matter to me if they rewrote the laws to disallow abortion, rewrote them to get rid of all the red light cameras, or if they rewrote them to get rid of all taxes. The issue is they stretch their authority too much and they need to know they cannot do this. Yes this won't overturn their ruling, but it sure as hell will let them know they overstepped their bounds.
Rod

West Des Moines, IA

#14 Nov 1, 2010
juergen wrote:
Rule of law? HA HA HA. Rule of the mob!
Not from Iowa go away
Rod

West Des Moines, IA

#15 Nov 1, 2010
Wow wrote:
What about the other half of the people that dont have a problem with this "issue", it would seem everyone is ignoring half the populace.
Not from Iowa go away
tack111p

Des Moines, IA

#16 Nov 1, 2010
bocefus wrote:
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Some kid got drunk at his mom's house. Get over it.
True, True. But when the mother in question is head of the State Supreme Court, allows the underage party to take place, and then attempts to hide in the shadows like nothing happened, it's an issue. Judges and all members of the criminal justice system are held to a higher standard. In this case the justice in question demonstrated just how little she regards the laws of her court and this state.

She lacks the moral fibers needed to hold the position. Get over it.
Giggs

Grimes, IA

#17 Nov 1, 2010
Rod wrote:
Actually, the issue isn't about gay marriage. The issue is about the courts rewriting the laws, in their own words. Rather than the words of the people who passed the laws. It wouldn't matter to me if they rewrote the laws to disallow abortion, rewrote them to get rid of all the red light cameras, or if they rewrote them to get rid of all taxes. The issue is they stretch their authority too much and they need to know they cannot do this. Yes this won't overturn their ruling, but it sure as hell will let them know they overstepped their bounds.
The Court DID NOT rewrite law and the Court DID NOT "overstep their bounds." Literally every single person I have talked to and poster on this forum who will be voting against retention of the judges is inexcusably uneducated on the basic facts of this issue.

The entire 'Vote No' campaign is based on ignorance. Period. You all, quite literally, have no idea what you are talking about.
Youknowwho

Creston, IA

#18 Nov 1, 2010
All federal judges should lose theirs seats!!
http://www.infowars.com/jesse-ventura-calls-f...
jeff

Grimes, IA

#19 Nov 1, 2010
i agree vote no,no,no. its to bad Vander Plaats didn't get the chance to run for governor we would have had a choice then, the way it is now we have bad or the other option worse. I remember how it was when Brandstad was running things i don't want any more of him, i will give Culver one more chance.
Outsider

Radcliffe, IA

#20 Nov 1, 2010
Giggs, you can do better than that.
You are sounding like a desperate democratic candidate who can no longer offer feasible arguments why he or her is a better candidate than the opponent so they call names IE:"inexcusably uneducated,based on ignorance,You all, quite literally, have no idea what you are talking about"
Give us reasons why not to vote no.
You would sound much more credible!!!

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