Des Moines Catholic School To Begin Spanish Immersion Program

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America is rapidly becoming a bilingual country with the influence of Latino immigrants.
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Me and You

Scranton, IA

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#102
Feb 4, 2010
 
WHY SPANISH??? WHY SPANISH??? PARTICULARLY IN A SCHOOL THAT CAN"T EVEN TEACH THESE KIDS HOW TO SPELL AND ARTICULATE CLEARLY IN ENGLISH YET??? THEY SEEM TO SOME HOW GRADUATE TOO??? YUP! KEEP PASSING ON THE PROBLEM TO SOMEONE ELSE! OUR SCHOOLS STINK BECAUSE OF SUCH NOTIONS AND HABITS.
WHY CAN'T "JOHN, JEAN AND JUDY" READ & WRITE?
WHY SPANISH AND WHY NOW?
Jus saying

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Feb 4, 2010
 
Me and You wrote:
WHY SPANISH??? WHY SPANISH??? PARTICULARLY IN A SCHOOL THAT CAN"T EVEN TEACH THESE KIDS HOW TO SPELL AND ARTICULATE CLEARLY IN ENGLISH YET??? THEY SEEM TO SOME HOW GRADUATE TOO??? YUP! KEEP PASSING ON THE PROBLEM TO SOMEONE ELSE! OUR SCHOOLS STINK BECAUSE OF SUCH NOTIONS AND HABITS.
WHY CAN'T "JOHN, JEAN AND JUDY" READ & WRITE?
WHY SPANISH AND WHY NOW?
Why not Spanish? A little research shows there are about 300 schools nationally doing immersion training in 10 different languages. 95% of the schools chose Spanish. Think they know something? Attend the SAS meeting and ask them to answer your questions.
Katherine

Urbandale, IA

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#104
Feb 4, 2010
 
The Catholic Church aids and harbors illegal immigrants. They are changing mass from English to Spanish. They do this because the Latinos do not use birth control and this is helping the Catholic Church survive. Englis is our national language, it is the glue that holds us together. The Catholic Church needs to be reminded of sparation of church and state.
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Pittsburg, CA

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#105
Feb 4, 2010
 
Katherine wrote:
The Catholic Church aids and harbors illegal immigrants. They are changing mass from English to Spanish. They do this because the Latinos do not use birth control and this is helping the Catholic Church survive. Englis is our national language, it is the glue that holds us together. The Catholic Church needs to be reminded of sparation of church and state.
Katherine, of all the ignorant things posted on this forum, yours takes the cake. Mass is said in the language people understand. If the community a church is in speaks English, it's said in English; if the community speaks Chinese, it's said in Chinese; French? You guessed it! It's said in French. Can you explain to us how Mass being said in Spanish translates into not using birth control? And can you cite your source please?
You need a better explanation on why the Catholic church survives. Hint: Matthew 16:13-18. Keep in mind that the Aramaic word for Peter and rock are the same (Kephas). And Jesus spoke Aramaic. Of course, you need to have an understanding of MORE THAN ONE LANGUAGE to get it. In this case: Aramaic, Greek, Latin and English. Google it and you'll have the explanation.
Me and You

Scranton, IA

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Feb 5, 2010
 
Jus saying wrote:
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Why not Spanish? A little research shows there are about 300 schools nationally doing immersion training in 10 different languages. 95% of the schools chose Spanish. Think they know something? Attend the SAS meeting and ask them to answer your questions.
Nonsense! "RESEARCH SHOWS"??? You pulled these figures out of your empty hat! Firstly, 300 isn't even a speck in the total number of schools in our country. Secondly, Spanish is often chosen because of it's ease and similarities to English root words and perhaps the fact that we have countless illegals here that don't have to speak English? So, someone has to take the first step in communication? Might as well be us right? Do your homework!

TEACH THEM ALL ENGLISH FIRST! PERFECT THAT AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TASK!

PARTICULARLY IN A SCHOOL THAT CAN'T EVEN TEACH THESE KIDS HOW TO SPELL AND ARTICULATE CLEARLY IN ENGLISH YET??? THEY SEEM TO SOME HOW GRADUATE TOO??? YUP! KEEP PASSING ON THE PROBLEM TO SOMEONE ELSE! OUR SCHOOLS STINK BECAUSE OF SUCH NOTIONS AND HABITS.
WHY CAN'T "JOHN, JEAN AND JUDY" READ & WRITE?

I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE CLEAR!!! >>> WHY CAN'T JOHN, JEAN AND JUDY READ AND WRITE IN, "ENGLISH"???
Mamacita

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Feb 5, 2010
 
Me and You wrote:
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I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE CLEAR!!! >>> WHY CAN'T JOHN, JEAN AND JUDY READ AND WRITE IN, "ENGLISH"???
Hay muchos niños en esa escuela que leen y escriben perfectamente el inglés. No es corecto culpar a la escuela. Los padres son los principales educadores de sus hijos. Cómo me alegra darme cuenta que St. Anthony está tomando un paso tan significativo en la educación de sus alumnos. Les dará muchos frutos en el futuro.
Translation: There are many children in that school that can read and write English perfectly. It's not right to blame the school. Parents are a child's main educators. It makes me happy to find out that St. Anthony is taking such a significant step in the education of its students. It will bear much fruit in the future.
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Des Moines, IA

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#108
Feb 5, 2010
 
Wow! The comments on this forum are just mind boggeling. The pure stupidity of people. I can not even put it into words. Just, wow!
Julie

Des Moines, IA

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Wow wrote:
Wow! The comments on this forum are just mind boggeling. The pure stupidity of people. I can not even put it into words. Just, wow!
I agree with you. I think that it's been a good forum for the community to realize just how prejudiced some people are. It's the elephant in the room, really. It gives us a glimpse of how things must have been for previous immigrants (Italians, Irish, Jews, etc). If the language being taught were something other than Spanish I doubt the reaction would be as negative.
It's also been interesting to see how those who support it have far better grammar, spelling and sentence construction than those who don't. The "nay-sayers" also resort to insults, idle repetition and SCREAMING to get their point across. It's been educational, to say the least.

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Feb 6, 2010
 
Jus saying wrote:
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Speech and debate coach? Re-read your posts for grammatical errors(hint:there's a few!)If you're stumped, I can probably find a Bilingual Fifth Grader to do the honors. You are obviously anti-hispanic, the facts are not going to change your mind. Iowa has on-going exports to a lot of South American countries. China mainly sends us THEIR exports and takes our money. We have trade delegations going to South America all the time. If you visited Mexico, which is close, you will find American companies dominate the business community. I've been to Hong Kong, lots of Japanese companies, not so many American. This is not about "them versus us", its about providing advantage in the present day business reality. I doubt you've been out of your patch much, otherwise you would not show such ignorance.
I did write very badly but I didn't have my glasses on still was my fault never a less. I didn't say anything about not learning spanish as well I am orginally from San Diego so it can be very usefull especially in teaching field and medical. Truthlly I think kids should be trilingual. You are right Hong Kong is more Japaneese runned and yes I have been there I have family mostly in Benjing and Taiwan. I mean't in the future right now South America treaties are going down the drain. China plus Japan are leading in communications, technology, and education. I was just saying were having more influence from there section globally than South america. I was trying to mean from 10 to 30 years from now. I didn't say anything disrespectable toward mexico or this country. I love this country naturally being a Navy brat. I think they should give the children choices not just spanish. I didn't mean anything by it. Everyone knows America dominates overall I mean't educationally we don't is it so wrong I want kids to learn many things?

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Louisville, KY

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#111
Feb 6, 2010
 
Overall I think this school is going in the right direction. It's nice to see a school that cares.
Surprised

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Feb 7, 2010
 
Julie wrote:
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I agree with you. I think that it's been a good forum for the community to realize just how prejudiced some people are. It's the elephant in the room, really. It gives us a glimpse of how things must have been for previous immigrants (Italians, Irish, Jews, etc). If the language being taught were something other than Spanish I doubt the reaction would be as negative.
It's also been interesting to see how those who support it have far better grammar, spelling and sentence construction than those who don't. The "nay-sayers" also resort to insults, idle repetition and SCREAMING to get their point across. It's been educational, to say the least.
Julie, I would say your post summarizes it best. It is sad to think as long as this County has been around, we still have that large 'elephant' in the room. I am a granddaughter of Italian immigrants and I feel sorry for my grandparents now to see how they must have been treated.

"Ignorance is bliss in America", should be this country's new motto based upon these negative posts. I agree most of the "nay-sayers" could have used good parenting growing up, to assist in their educational skills. At the end of the day, the education a child receives is only as a good as what the child and parents put into it. And these parents who choose this program are just saying, we want to see our kids to have additional opportunities in life. Again, education is one of the keys to a prosperous life.
Me and You

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#113
Feb 7, 2010
 
Lets just get "all" these kids up to an excellent level of "English" first. Then, let them tackle a secondary language after that. The level of English skills coming from our schools is sad and embarrassing.
Excel at one before you try to go on to another or you'll have students that are mediocre at both.
WHY CAN'T JOHN, JEAN AND JUDY READ AND WRITE IN, "ENGLISH"??? Hmmm!!! Good point!
Before you respond,.....remember,...I am talking about all the kids and not just your special kid that happens to be able to function in two languages well.
EXCELLENT ENGLISH IS A "MUST" FOR ALL,.... FIRST!!!
Mamacita

Des Moines, IA

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#114
Feb 7, 2010
 
Me and You, I agree that kids living in the US need to learn English, and learn it properly. But blaming the schools for them not being up to par isn't fair. Where are their parents? The parents need to educate their kids FIRST, then the schools.
Parents who are enrolling their kids in a program like this, regardless of what language the kids are learning, are doing this BECAUSE they are educating their kids. If these kids are "special" like you say, what's special about them is that their parents take responsibility for their education. Please read the information about kids who speak more than one language. It turns out that they become better at their native language by learning a second one.
There are many schools like this worldwide, including in 3rd world countries. And the kids that go to those schools excel, some of them more than kids in the US. Why? Because they speak more than one language, plain and simple. Their parents mske huge sacrifices to send them to these schools because they understand what it will mean for their kids' future.
Maybe ALL schools should implement what this visionary school is doing. Then ALL our kids in the US will be better at their native language, English, and be more on par with the rest of the world.
Mamacita

Des Moines, IA

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#115
Feb 7, 2010
 
Correction... "make", not "mske".
TGO

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#117
Mar 5, 2010
 
I would agree that immersion 'anything' is the best way to teach any language. So if there is a desire to teach Spanish, French, Mandarin, etc. then an immersion model is outstanding. HOWEVER, when places like Southern California, where English is a second language to Spanish for a huge section of the population, the Spanish immersion programs become a crutch for those kids who are not taught to express themselves in the national language of this country. If Des Moines is looking for a good way to learn Spanish, then it is ideal; if it is because there is an English-illiterate group of Spanish speaking families, then it is money mis-spent!
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Des Moines, IA

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#118
Sep 4, 2012
 
KLM wrote:
This is USA not Mexico or South America. We Americans shouldn't have to learn Spanish this is our country not theirs. If they want to be here then learn English simple as that. It not right to force Spanish on us. I would like to know going to teach Mexicans English.
We need a English only law in this country.
How is less knowledge an advantage over more knowledge? I don't see how knowledge of a second language can be anything but beneficial for my children.

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