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Des Moines Catholic School To Begin Spanish Immersion Program

There are 116 comments on the WHOtv story from Feb 1, 2010, titled Des Moines Catholic School To Begin Spanish Immersion Program. In it, WHOtv reports that:

America is rapidly becoming a bilingual country with the influence of Latino immigrants.

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Since: Feb 10

Des Moines, IA

#82 Feb 3, 2010
xyz wrote:
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You're right, 30 minutes a week (if that) means your kid is better off watching Dora the Explorer (or Ni-Hao Kai Lan if you prefer Chinese). That's why language immersion works, regardless of what language you teach them. And once they learn one language it makes it easier to learn more languages.
I agree, but it shouldn't be Spanish.
Darrell Reed

Milton, FL

#83 Feb 3, 2010
Me and You wrote:
TEACH THEM ALL HOW TO USE, SPEAK, WRITE IN ENGLISH WITH PROFICIENCY FIRST!!! THE KIDS COMING OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS CAN'T EVEN GET THAT RIGHT EVEN AFTER HIGH SCHOOL NOW. YOU "CHUCKLE-HEADS" THINK THAT SPANISH EMERSION IS A GREAT IDEA? NOW??? THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING THERE "PUDDIN-HEAD". THE LEVEL OF EDUCATION OUR KIDS GET/GOT PALES IN COMPARISON TO MY OWN AND MY CLASSMATES IN CATHOLIC SCHOOL SOME 33 YEARS AGO. DON'T TRY TO DEFEND YOUR CHILDS EDUCATION STANDARD WHILE THEY CAN'T EVEN WRITE THEIR OWN NAME CLEARLY. ALSO, PLEASE DON'T TELL ME ABOUT YOUR PROMINENT ALUMNUS! I'VE SEEN AND KNOW MANY OF THEM AND I REMAIN UNIMPRESSED (none of them set the world on fire with their talents or quick wit). BACK TO THE BASICS! THREE R's!!!!! LEARNING ANOTHER LANGUAGE IS A GOOD IDEA BUT NOT NOW. NOT WITH THESE KIDS. SORRY, THEY ARE ALREADY AT A LOSS BECAUSE OF OUR MISGUIDED SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND LACK-LUSTER EXPECTATIONS OF THEY'RE DULL-MINDED PARENTS ALREADY.
SPANISH EMERSION! HA! BAH, HA! HA! HA! HA! WHAT A HUGE WASTE OF TIME WHEN ALL THAT JOHNNY AND JANE REALLY NEEDED WAS BASICS!!! OUR SCHOOLS FAIL AT THAT SIMPLE TASK AND NOW LETS TRY SPANISH EMERSION? YEAH,....UH HU. OUR SCHOOLS HERE STINK AND ITS PARTLY BECAUSE OF NONSENSE LIKE THIS. WHO THINKS UP THINGS LIKE THIS? PERSONALLY, I INTEND ON FINDING OUT. SEE YOU THERE!
P.S. I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE LIKE THAT LOOK LIKE AND ARE THEY REAL (I IMAGINE THAT THEY ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE WEARING "CLOWN SHOES" AND HAVE A LIBERAL MIND-SET).
I could not agree more,well spoken,Iowa we must take a stand against these illegals invading Iowa and the U.S. and force our Representatives to do their sworn duty and protect "WE THE PEOPLE" and not illegal aliens.
Jus saying

Raymond, IA

#84 Feb 3, 2010
milles wrote:
Spanish instruction at most schools is a waste of time and money. My child is in 4th grade at Sacred Heart and they see the spanish teacher once a week for 30 minutes (if they have school on a Monday and nothing else takes priority). They are still working on numbers and letters. I wish they would integrate a different language. I don't think it's necessary to make my kids learn Spanish when the adult illegal immigrants are not required to learn English. Chinese would be a more beneficial language to learn. I'm not discrediting the benefits of learning a 2nd language, but it shouldn't be Spanish.
How many opportunities do you or your child have to interact with Chinese speakers? How many Iowa businesses EXPORT to China on a continuing basis. I imagine Spanish was chosen because it made the most sense business-wise AT PRESENT. If conditions change, so would the curriculm. I doubt parents would be willing to pay good money for 5 years if there would be scant benefits. Don't let your prejudice override your common sense.
Darrell Reed

Milton, FL

#85 Feb 3, 2010
correction on city thats OSCEOLA,IOWA
parent

Chillicothe, IL

#86 Feb 3, 2010
Immersion works. Those spanish speaking adults every one is speaking of. Who is translating most of the time? It is the kids. When at the grocery store, who is translating, the kids. The kids are being taught in english in schools, spanish is spoken at home. English immersion. Have you ever known a Canadian? Most speak french and english. Why? Because of immersion is taught in their schools. Can St. Anthony's do this on their own, with out support from other schools and parishes in the area? This program is not self supporting in its early stages. If Des Moines had a catholic school system, the way Dubuque is, it would be better money wise. In Des Moines this is one parish & school behind this money wise, with no financial help from other schools & parishes.
WakeUpDSM

Columbus, OH

#87 Feb 3, 2010
If you read the information within the the article and the schools website, www.stanthonydsm.org for those who comment before they are informed, this is a program to add to the inteligence of your child and allow them to be more competative in the working world.

For those is DSM, I would strongly suggest a good look in the mirror. Your school district has 3 schools that have been consistently failing with test scores, your school district continualy raises taxes - yet programs offered to your children have been drasticly reduced. Your childrens english scores have been below the national average, where this schools test scores are far above the national average. These are children that are excelling and you should want that for your child.

Before you knock a program that is offered to children whose parents would like them to gain an education at a private institute, you may want to make sure your own back yard is clean.

Nothing like calling the kettle black folks.
Mitch

United States

#88 Feb 3, 2010
I think this is an excellent program. Parents and teachers should be excited about this new educational opportunity. Learning a second language will give their children a big advantage in the future workforce. I think all schools should have immersion programs especial starting the program in the early grades.

Since: Feb 10

Burlington, KY

#89 Feb 3, 2010
FortyFive wrote:
This IS America and just as "Latino" Illegal, CRIMINAL TRESPASSERS will not learn English to speak to us in THEIR country, what is the purpose of learning THEIR language when they REFUSE to learn OURS in OUR COUNTRY!!! Just another Obamanation happening in MY country!! I gave up 24 years of my life in service for my country to defend our way of life, language included, and THIS is what WE VETERANS GET?!!! I'm not impressed!! Good thing I pulled my child OUT OF SAS!! Bunch of liberal, feel-good, ignorant Marxist's!!
"Racist" what does illegals have to do with the program NOTHING!!! I agree with you on illegals but still I think all children need to be bilengal. So are you telling me that you don't want your child to learn something that might increase their chances in getting a job beacuse thats what it comes down to it. The whole attitude were american the american way is not going to cut it. America is not a solitary country that takes up space it very active globally which is great and made us wealthy. My family is miltary I am navy brat so i understand And damnit we have the best miltary thats the plain truth but our kids are not competeing with students in just the states there competing with other country's. I've been to Oki nawa okay spelling is bad but they have to learn a language other than there own. This icountry is built on immigrants plain fact and the future is going to harbor more immigrants so why let our children be taken out the chances to success? Their learning a language not converting into the culture.
LJK

Des Moines, IA

#90 Feb 3, 2010
How many people who are opposed to the immersion program are opposed to learning a Spanish in junior high or high school. Are nay sayers opposed to this solely because of the way it is being taught? It seems to me if you are not for this program you should not be for any forign language being taught anywhere.
LJK

Des Moines, IA

#91 Feb 3, 2010
Darrell Reed wrote:
This action is totally absurd,ST Anthony's is only telling Hispanics it's OK to come Illegally and break our U.S.laws,and our state government "JUST" stands around and says"DUH" what do we do George "DUH" 85% to 90% of hispanics in IOWA are here "ILLEGALLY" and helped by the "LAW BREAKERS AT ST ANTHONY'S CHURCH". People ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL no matter how you sugar coat it.
What are you talking about, this has nothing to do with illegals. This program is not offered to Mexicans legal or not. It is only offered to children of ENGLISH speaking households. That makes it even harder for legal or illegal Mexicans to get in. I don't like illegal immagrants either, but I am not opposed to my child learning a second language and this has been proven all over the world.

85%-90% are illegal? Site your source.
LJK

Des Moines, IA

#92 Feb 3, 2010
milles wrote:
Spanish instruction at most schools is a waste of time and money. My child is in 4th grade at Sacred Heart and they see the spanish teacher once a week for 30 minutes (if they have school on a Monday and nothing else takes priority). They are still working on numbers and letters. I wish they would integrate a different language. I don't think it's necessary to make my kids learn Spanish when the adult illegal immigrants are not required to learn English. Chinese would be a more beneficial language to learn. I'm not discrediting the benefits of learning a 2nd language, but it shouldn't be Spanish.
Shouldn't be Spanish? Get a grip, Spanish is the most logical choice. That is ONE of the most ignorant things anybody has written here.
LJK

Des Moines, IA

#93 Feb 3, 2010
Me and You wrote:
TEACH THEM ALL HOW TO USE, SPEAK, WRITE IN ENGLISH WITH PROFICIENCY FIRST!!! THE KIDS COMING OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS CAN'T EVEN GET THAT RIGHT EVEN AFTER HIGH SCHOOL NOW. YOU "CHUCKLE-HEADS" THINK THAT SPANISH EMERSION IS A GREAT IDEA? NOW??? THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING THERE "PUDDIN-HEAD". THE LEVEL OF EDUCATION OUR KIDS GET/GOT PALES IN COMPARISON TO MY OWN AND MY CLASSMATES IN CATHOLIC SCHOOL SOME 33 YEARS AGO. DON'T TRY TO DEFEND YOUR CHILDS EDUCATION STANDARD WHILE THEY CAN'T EVEN WRITE THEIR OWN NAME CLEARLY. ALSO, PLEASE DON'T TELL ME ABOUT YOUR PROMINENT ALUMNUS! I'VE SEEN AND KNOW MANY OF THEM AND I REMAIN UNIMPRESSED (none of them set the world on fire with their talents or quick wit). BACK TO THE BASICS! THREE R's!!!!! LEARNING ANOTHER LANGUAGE IS A GOOD IDEA BUT NOT NOW. NOT WITH THESE KIDS. SORRY, THEY ARE ALREADY AT A LOSS BECAUSE OF OUR MISGUIDED SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND LACK-LUSTER EXPECTATIONS OF THEY'RE DULL-MINDED PARENTS ALREADY.
SPANISH EMERSION! HA! BAH, HA! HA! HA! HA! WHAT A HUGE WASTE OF TIME WHEN ALL THAT JOHNNY AND JANE REALLY NEEDED WAS BASICS!!! OUR SCHOOLS FAIL AT THAT SIMPLE TASK AND NOW LETS TRY SPANISH EMERSION? YEAH,....UH HU. OUR SCHOOLS HERE STINK AND ITS PARTLY BECAUSE OF NONSENSE LIKE THIS. WHO THINKS UP THINGS LIKE THIS? PERSONALLY, I INTEND ON FINDING OUT. SEE YOU THERE!
P.S. I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE LIKE THAT LOOK LIKE AND ARE THEY REAL (I IMAGINE THAT THEY ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE WEARING "CLOWN SHOES" AND HAVE A LIBERAL MIND-SET).
I'll see you there.
Rosa Parks

Des Moines, IA

#94 Feb 3, 2010
parent wrote:
Raising fees $15 per child in the immersion class will not pay for the supplies and textbooks, let alone a teacher. Lost in all of this, is $300,000 of updates an the school last year. Smart boards, air condition, lighting, floors, etc, have all been added. The Diocease or other schools didn't come to the financial aid of the school when there were staff reductions last year. What makes you think they will in the years to come. This will be paid for by the people of St. Anthonys, no one else. Can the parish support it?
Nobody said the registration fee is $15 more, that is ridiculous. Of course it will be more than that. Also, the $300,000 for the renovations and technology updates came from a grant Prairie Meadows gave to the school (like they do with many other schools that apply for grants). This means NO ONE has to pay it back. But I think you already know that.
The program will pay for itself from day one. The school in Dubuque was an independent school when they started immersion. The Holy Family school system came into being a year or two after the school started the Spanish program. I know this because I have visited that school and had conversations with the staff and students. Besides, if the program pays for itself it doesn't matter that their school system differs from ours.
Bottom line is that this is a great program for some of us, but it's not for everyone. We all have a choice here - to enroll or not to enroll our kids.

Since: Feb 10

Burlington, KY

#95 Feb 3, 2010
LJK wrote:
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Shouldn't be Spanish? Get a grip, Spanish is the most logical choice. That is ONE of the most ignorant things anybody has written here.

Although I mostly agree with you except spanish is not the logical choice if you think market wise Chineese is more logical. In japan other than their language english is their mostly taught language other their native one. Most of their market is english based so naturally thats the one taught. Think consumer market over all for the US is mostly asia. Sure we do get products from south america just how many spanish speaking countries have alot of influence. Okay spanish it has its uses but overall the clinming market is china and Japan. So wouldn't it be more logical Chineese than Spanish?
Rosa Parks

Des Moines, IA

#96 Feb 3, 2010
Goblinz wrote:
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Although I mostly agree with you except spanish is not the logical choice if you think market wise Chineese is more logical. In japan other than their language english is their mostly taught language other their native one. Most of their market is english based so naturally thats the one taught. Think consumer market over all for the US is mostly asia. Sure we do get products from south america just how many spanish speaking countries have alot of influence. Okay spanish it has its uses but overall the clinming market is china and Japan. So wouldn't it be more logical Chineese than Spanish?
Nobody said Spanish is the ONLY choice. If any other school wants to step up to the plate and start a Chinese immersion school that would be awesome too. The more schools like this we have, the more global our kids will become.

Since: Feb 10

Burlington, KY

#97 Feb 3, 2010
Rosa Parks wrote:
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Nobody said Spanish is the ONLY choice. If any other school wants to step up to the plate and start a Chinese immersion school that would be awesome too. The more schools like this we have, the more global our kids will become.
I agree with you but it's sometime funding more spanish immersion funding than the later. I completely agree with you just your comment said spanish was more logical I just replied. Truefully I think we do need more attention on english than the the others. I volunteer for the speech and debate team I am one of the coachs so trust me I am basically teaching english most of the time. oratory you write your on speech very few kids are in that catgory because they can't write.
LJK

Des Moines, IA

#98 Feb 3, 2010
Goblinz wrote:
<quoted text>
Although I mostly agree with you except spanish is not the logical choice if you think market wise Chineese is more logical. In japan other than their language english is their mostly taught language other their native one. Most of their market is english based so naturally thats the one taught. Think consumer market over all for the US is mostly asia. Sure we do get products from south america just how many spanish speaking countries have alot of influence. Okay spanish it has its uses but overall the clinming market is china and Japan. So wouldn't it be more logical Chineese than Spanish?
I tend to think more locally. When my son (who is enrolled in the program) and I walk out my door, we hear Spanish. When we drive down the street we see Spanish signs. When we can not communicate with the people at the local Walmart it is because they are Mexican. That is why it is the most logical choice for a south side Des Moines school. Anybody from this city who disagrees with that is either lying or blind.
Jus saying

Raymond, IA

#99 Feb 3, 2010
Goblinz wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you but it's sometime funding more spanish immersion funding than the later. I completely agree with you just your comment said spanish was more logical I just replied. Truefully I think we do need more attention on english than the the others. I volunteer for the speech and debate team I am one of the coachs so trust me I am basically teaching english most of the time. oratory you write your on speech very few kids are in that catgory because they can't write.
Speech and debate coach? Re-read your posts for grammatical errors(hint:there's a few!)If you're stumped, I can probably find a Bilingual Fifth Grader to do the honors. You are obviously anti-hispanic, the facts are not going to change your mind. Iowa has on-going exports to a lot of South American countries. China mainly sends us THEIR exports and takes our money. We have trade delegations going to South America all the time. If you visited Mexico, which is close, you will find American companies dominate the business community. I've been to Hong Kong, lots of Japanese companies, not so many American. This is not about "them versus us", its about providing advantage in the present day business reality. I doubt you've been out of your patch much, otherwise you would not show such ignorance.
parent

Chillicothe, IL

#100 Feb 3, 2010
The Dubuque catholic schools became consolidated in July of 2001. That is from the history page of their website. If this started in Dubuque 7 years ago, it was a consolidated school system at that time. This will be on the backs of every parishner at St. Anthony's to pay for. Most of it will be paid for by other families in the school. I did not say anything about the building updates needing to be paid back. The updates have really taken a backseat to the immersion. The two kindergarton classes have had 35-40 children in them most years. I do not see how adding a hand full of kids to those numbers yearly, will pay for spanish teaching staff. They need to increase enrollment school wide, not just kindergarton where the immersion will start.
Lisa and Todd

Des Moines, IA

#101 Feb 3, 2010
My son is forth generation at St. Anthony's and the school never seems to amaze me on being first of it's kind. I was hesitate on the Spanish Immersion Program, but once I received all the information my husband and I were very excited. Knowing how society will be in the future what an awesome benefit we can give our son for his future. With him learning Spanish at this young age when he is a teenager and an adult he will have more opportunities since he will be bilingual. Way to go St. Anthony's and thank you for this great opportunity for our children.

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