Mom wants son's roadside shrine to re...

Mom wants son's roadside shrine to remain

There are 7 comments on the www.connpost.com story from Dec 20, 2009, titled Mom wants son's roadside shrine to remain. In it, www.connpost.com reports that:

Almost immediately after 16-year-old Timmy Garofalo died in an all-terrain vehicle accident near his home, friends set up an elaborate roadside shrine in his honor on Hawthorne Avenue that included windchimes, crosses and handwritten letters.

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Sol

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#1 Dec 20, 2009
...three feet in length, width, height and depth...
Wow - reality in four dimensions. Is that "three feet" in EVERY dimension (and a cubic yard is a BIG thing) or cumulative (like sizing a box for USPS or FedEx delivery)?

If something is on public property it is ultimately a municipal liability - whether or not it is properly maintained by a concerned party. Laws governing them, while shifting some burden to the 'owners' of said memorials, impose others upon the municipality (namely enforcement of said laws - which can then involve the legal system).

Yeah, it's a shame people get killed, but it's not the municipality's responsibility to oversee such displays - many of which DO pale over time and become neglected and ratty-looking.

ANYWAYS, the article mentions the kid died in an ATV accident - and presumably it was on the road, since the memorial is set up there - wasn't he breaking the law, since ATVs aren't registered vehicles and are not street-worthy?
She said she just wants the board to let her son's memorial remain.
And so would everybody ELSE who builds one of these. Again, it's tough, and nobody wants to be the 'bad guy' and say "no", but it's not the municipality's responsibility and it shouldn't be. Roadside memorials take all kinds of sizes, shapes, and weirdnesses, and they're intended for seemingly good purposes, but you can't judge or quantify the state of them easily or consistently and it seems like the statute should be based upon a time limit over and including a maximum size.
some other guy

Stamford, CT

#3 Dec 21, 2009
Sol wrote:
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Wow - reality in four dimensions. Is that "three feet" in EVERY dimension (and a cubic yard is a BIG thing) or cumulative (like sizing a box for USPS or FedEx delivery)?
If something is on public property it is ultimately a municipal liability - whether or not it is properly maintained by a concerned party. Laws governing them, while shifting some burden to the 'owners' of said memorials, impose others upon the municipality (namely enforcement of said laws - which can then involve the legal system).
Yeah, it's a shame people get killed, but it's not the municipality's responsibility to oversee such displays - many of which DO pale over time and become neglected and ratty-looking.
ANYWAYS, the article mentions the kid died in an ATV accident - and presumably it was on the road, since the memorial is set up there - wasn't he breaking the law, since ATVs aren't registered vehicles and are not street-worthy?
<quoted text>And so would everybody ELSE who builds one of these. Again, it's tough, and nobody wants to be the 'bad guy' and say "no", but it's not the municipality's responsibility and it shouldn't be. Roadside memorials take all kinds of sizes, shapes, and weirdnesses, and they're intended for seemingly good purposes, but you can't judge or quantify the state of them easily or consistently and it seems like the statute should be based upon a time limit over and including a maximum size.
Agree 100%: no one want to be the "bad guy" but somebody has to. It's up to the elected officials to speak for the general public who are expected to put up with one roadway eyesore after the next. Private memorials don't belong on public property. There are cemeteries for that sort of thing. If every next-of-kin inflicted their private grief on the public at large, how soon before roadside memorials became as ubiquitous as utility poles? No. You have to draw a line somewhere, tragic as each individual circumstance is.
BPT999

Trumbull, CT

#4 Dec 21, 2009
I'm stuck on this one. I know the mother just wants to hold to whatever little is left of her son. I've had family member's & friends die & we put up candles, etc. But eventually you sort of expect it to be taken down. Realistically, she is lucky that memorial stayed up for so long!! As someone said above, it
s really not the city/town's responsibilty to oversee the display. If it means so much to her why doesn't she just collect everything that is out there (letters, candles, flowers, etc) and put it in her own front or backyard. She should make her own memorial. Take what is left there on the street & add more. That way she can do whatever she wants and it won't bother anyone. I wish her luck.
Sam from Connecticut

United States

#5 Dec 21, 2009
I agree with Mom. Timmy was a good boy. He is with GOD, now. May he rest
in Peace.
AVA

Easley, SC

#6 Dec 21, 2009
You did not know Timmy so be quiet through a nephew I knew Timmy and his whole family He was a terrific kid and well loved by teachers and friends.I will never forget the funeral and how many people were there. The line of cars from the funeral parlor to the cemetary held up traffic all thought the little City of Derby that day ! The memorial is not blocking any traffic and there is not a sidewalk so there is really no problem except it is probably looking a little old right now..To Tim's Mom My nephew who played with Tim with the last name Rosa said to say hi to you your husband and other son and his grandparents. Tim will never be forgotten by his friends!
88 cutlass classic

AOL

#7 Dec 21, 2009
I am sorry for the mother here, but, these roadside memorials have to go. Everybody dies. People have graves or urns with ashes and such to remember loved ones. Everyone knows(but doesn't want to say) the fact is these things become eyesores. If the friends and family want to memorialize someone, keep it in their own yard or property.
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Dallas, TX

#8 Dec 30, 2009
I agree with Mom. Leave the memorial alone.

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