Deposit coming for water bottles

Deposit coming for water bottles

There are 20 comments on the WHEC-TV Rochester, NY story from Mar 30, 2009, titled Deposit coming for water bottles. In it, WHEC-TV Rochester, NY reports that:

The new New York state budget apparently has a provision that places a five-cent deposit on water bottles.

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opinion1

Rochester, NY

#1 Mar 30, 2009
surprised they aren't also including juice bottles as well
NYStatesucks

Batavia, NY

#2 Mar 30, 2009
opinion1 wrote:
surprised they aren't also including juice bottles as well
Give them time
Joe

Geneva, NY

#3 Mar 30, 2009
Funny how Wegmans complains about making changes to compensate for more deposit bottles but didnt have a problem compensating for adding wine to it stores.
reality

Schenectady, NY

#4 Mar 30, 2009
More nickels for the bums.
Peeved

United States

#5 Mar 31, 2009
Whats next...taxing the air I breathe! Screw off Patterson....Just remember you were an appointed official not an elected one! And never will be elected, Youre a moron!
mr skeptical

Englewood, CO

#6 Mar 31, 2009
Whatever they call it (environmental) it's just another tax!!!
parent of 4

New York, NY

#7 Mar 31, 2009
Does Patterson understand that people WILL leave New York because they can't afford to live in the state...which will inturn make the deficit bigger? You would think he would want to make the state more appealing than others , to draw the peple in..to generate more revenue, to offset the deficit! The math is not that hard to do.... come on People it is time to make a stand!
ralph

Batavia, NY

#9 Mar 31, 2009
Joe wrote:
Funny how Wegmans complains about making changes to compensate for more deposit bottles but didnt have a problem compensating for adding wine to it stores.
Yes that is amazing isn't it.

And they call themselves an ethical company
Patti

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Mar 31, 2009
Reality: Must mean you don't take the time to recycle your own bottles then huh! Oh yeah, my son and I used to pickup the 'recycled' pop cans, bottles when we saw them. Nice little bank fillers because of laziness on the drinkers' part. Thanks.
And they should have included ALL bottles (I see more iced tea, sobe, arizona in the summer than water bottles) in this. There are a lot of lazy people out there. I would love the revenue, send them onward. How about donating them? Not hard or far, there's plenty of kids that would love the spending money.
Fact

Rochester, NY

#11 Mar 31, 2009
Patti wrote:
Reality: Must mean you don't take the time to recycle your own bottles then huh! Oh yeah, my son and I used to pickup the 'recycled' pop cans, bottles when we saw them. Nice little bank fillers because of laziness on the drinkers' part. Thanks.
And they should have included ALL bottles (I see more iced tea, sobe, arizona in the summer than water bottles) in this. There are a lot of lazy people out there. I would love the revenue, send them onward. How about donating them? Not hard or far, there's plenty of kids that would love the spending money.
You are missing the point all together. The state doesn't give a damn about the environment. They want to collect the deposits from the consumer and pocket the money from the un-returned bottles. They will then use that cash flow to pay off the money sucking unions. They are actually hoping people won't return the bottles so they can pocket the cash.
mr skeptical

Englewood, CO

#12 Apr 1, 2009
Fact wrote:
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You are missing the point all together. The state doesn't give a damn about the environment. They want to collect the deposits from the consumer and pocket the money from the un-returned bottles. They will then use that cash flow to pay off the money sucking unions. They are actually hoping people won't return the bottles so they can pocket the cash.
That's exactly it. They DON'T want people to return the bottles. That's why they're doing it. You've been fooled by NYS.
Patti

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Apr 1, 2009
Fact: I still stand by what I said. People are lazy. They would rather throw the $$ away than take the time to recycle or return the bottles. Kids, poor, homeless will benefit and that's a good thing. I am well aware of the point, I do live in New York not Minn. and I will be picking up the bottles that others don't want. I will also have people save them for my son so he can build his savings account. Wow, lots of FREE money.

Really think about it. Sure, the state makes money off laziness. As far as I'm concerned, they should have put deposits on ALL nondeposit drinking bottles. Not just water. I collected as a kid, helped keep the environment cleaner too and I made $$ for it. It's too easy now. There are bottle places where you can take a bag for donation and it doesn't even take you out of your way. Scouts, homeless shelters, churches. All are looking for funds. I DO care about environment AND my pocket. So I end up twice blessed. Do you?
mr skeptical

Englewood, CO

#14 Apr 1, 2009
ralph wrote:
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Yes that is amazing isn't it.
And they call themselves an ethical company
Your arguement is incorrect. This has nothing to do with ethics. They're in business....as in...to make money....like all businesses. Like the businesses that provide us with jobs, and places to buy groceries. Wegmans HAS to accept bottle returns. It's a NYS law. They don't make ANY money from it...in fact, it costs them money; for employees, for machines that process the bottles, for a space to store all the bottles in.

Then they have to pay payroll taxes for the employee, and property taxes for the space they're using. AND they do this as a money loosing venture so the state can profit. If you had any clue what you were talking about, you'd realize they 'pass along' the cost of this money loosing venture to YOU, the consumer, everytime you buy something.

With SELLING wine, they have potential to MAKE money from wine SALES. What does this have to do with ethics? Why can't you see this is just about money for the greedy state of ours!
mr skeptical

Englewood, CO

#15 Apr 1, 2009
Patti wrote:
Fact: I still stand by what I said. People are lazy. They would rather throw the $$ away than take the time to recycle or return the bottles. Kids, poor, homeless will benefit and that's a good thing. I am well aware of the point, I do live in New York not Minn. and I will be picking up the bottles that others don't want. I will also have people save them for my son so he can build his savings account. Wow, lots of FREE money.
Really think about it. Sure, the state makes money off laziness. As far as I'm concerned, they should have put deposits on ALL nondeposit drinking bottles. Not just water. I collected as a kid, helped keep the environment cleaner too and I made $$ for it. It's too easy now. There are bottle places where you can take a bag for donation and it doesn't even take you out of your way. Scouts, homeless shelters, churches. All are looking for funds. I DO care about environment AND my pocket. So I end up twice blessed. Do you?
So, on that basis, I guess you think we should tax the crap out of anything that can be recycled. Paper, aluminum foil, cans, plastic, just about everything you buy. I have a real problem with that. Recylcing is great, but why are we treating bottled drinks differently??? It's a pain. One more thing to do that cuts into my precious time. I WISH I could just stick my bottles and cans into the recycling bin....But I'd never get my nickels back. It's about money for the state of NY...not about recycling and the environment. You just don't get it, do you??!

I propose we dump our bottles and cans on the lawn of the state house in Albany in protest. Sure, they'll make money off of it, but it will probably cost them more to clean it up.

Who's With ME???!!!
Pete

Rochester, NY

#16 Apr 2, 2009
mr skeptical wrote:
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Your arguement is incorrect. This has nothing to do with ethics. They're in business....as in...to make money....like all businesses. Like the businesses that provide us with jobs, and places to buy groceries. Wegmans HAS to accept bottle returns. It's a NYS law. They don't make ANY money from it...in fact, it costs them money; for employees, for machines that process the bottles, for a space to store all the bottles in.
Then they have to pay payroll taxes for the employee, and property taxes for the space they're using. AND they do this as a money loosing venture so the state can profit. If you had any clue what you were talking about, you'd realize they 'pass along' the cost of this money loosing venture to YOU, the consumer, everytime you buy something.
With SELLING wine, they have potential to MAKE money from wine SALES. What does this have to do with ethics? Why can't you see this is just about money for the greedy state of ours!
I think your missing the point. Wegmans HAS to accept the bottles and it does cost them money BUT there is a 99% chance that when someone comes into the store to return the bottles they will turn around and BUY something with the money thay just got for returned bottles. If there was no return that would be a small % of people that would not come into the store at all. NOW with more bottles coming in the DRAW for the store has increased.
parent of 4

New York, NY

#17 Apr 2, 2009
Pete you are right that most will turn around and buy something, but usually they take them when they are on their way there anyway.So in reality there really isn't any extra purchases going on except maybe a pack of gum . This goes for all stores Not just Wegmans...and the cost for the extra employees( there is payroll, benefits, employee discount) exceeds due to the fact that most people returning bottles do not drive out of their way JUST to make the return , they are planning on making a purchase anyway.
I think you are ALL missing the POINT! This article isn't about Wegmans at all it is about another way for the state to make a profit. The state would make their profit on those bottles NOT returned .... and No the State in this case could care less about the environment, they want more money. The problem with this is, What is next? While it is nice to make a profit on others not returning their own cans ( as put by Patti), what else will we have to pay extra for paper products such as paper towels, canned coffee, etc... it is hard enough to dish out the out of pocket expense in the rise of things now...
If they lowered the price on certain things like bottled water then added the deposit , it wouldn't be so bad. Perhaps some would be more apt to drink water ( healthier ) than the soda ( which the country sees as an obesity factor)
Wile E Coyote

Rochester, NY

#18 Apr 2, 2009
Screw Wegmans

Since: Sep 08

Bowling Green, KY

#19 Apr 22, 2009
parent of 4 wrote:
Pete you are right that most will turn around and buy something, but usually they take them when they are on their way there anyway.So in reality there really isn't any extra purchases going on except maybe a pack of gum . This goes for all stores Not just Wegmans...and the cost for the extra employees( there is payroll, benefits, employee discount) exceeds due to the fact that most people returning bottles do not drive out of their way JUST to make the return , they are planning on making a purchase anyway.
I think you are ALL missing the POINT! This article isn't about Wegmans at all it is about another way for the state to make a profit. The state would make their profit on those bottles NOT returned .... and No the State in this case could care less about the environment, they want more money. The problem with this is, What is next? While it is nice to make a profit on others not returning their own cans ( as put by Patti), what else will we have to pay extra for paper products such as paper towels, canned coffee, etc... it is hard enough to dish out the out of pocket expense in the rise of things now...
If they lowered the price on certain things like bottled water then added the deposit , it wouldn't be so bad. Perhaps some would be more apt to drink water ( healthier ) than the soda ( which the country sees as an obesity factor)
Sounds to me like Monica Lewinsky has found a great state to market her knee pads.
GRAPE

Batavia, NY

#20 Apr 22, 2009
Joe wrote:
Funny how Wegmans complains about making changes to compensate for more deposit bottles but didnt have a problem compensating for adding wine to it stores.
Self interest boy i tell ya. it has kept competition out of rochester for along time. and who payed off the politicians to keep competitors out. let me guess Wegmans
ANNOY

Batavia, NY

#21 Apr 23, 2009
GRAPE wrote:
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Self interest boy i tell ya. it has kept competition out of rochester for along time. and who payed off the politicians to keep competitors out. let me guess Wegmans
GRAPE HE NOT A BOY HE A MAN OK

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