Cities Join Forces to Fight Global Warming

Jun 7, 2011 Full story: Inter Press Service 22

SAO PAULO, Jun 7, 2011 - Given that the world's 40 biggest cities account for eight percent of the global population and 12 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions, local governments play an increasingly important role in confronting climate change.

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“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#1 Jun 8, 2011
Is it any wonder that because the world’s 40 biggest cities account for eight percent of the global population, they produce 12 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions?
Mostly wealthy people (by world standards) live in cities, the major consumers of everything that produces emissions of all descriptions.
Cities themselves are heat islands, therefore city dwellers are more likely to use A/C in warm weather.

Whoever suggested moving everyone into cities?
Oh yes, that's right, it was our good buddy Norfie.

Raze cities to the ground and get back to the plough.

NB: Current world population, 6.9 billion.
Will reach 7 Billion on October 31, 2011, UN.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#2 Jun 8, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
Raze cities to the ground and get back to the plough.
That old science-denying, fascist-praising, Topix-monopolizing energy industry shill Earthling is actually a closeted back-to-the-land hippie? Hah! That so fits.

Meanwhile, the world's people are flocking to major cities more than ever, and for good reason. Cities are where jobs actually pay, where science is respected and nourished, and where talent mixes and makes magic--very unlike rural Spain, or rural anywhere.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#3 Jun 9, 2011
Northie wrote:
That old science-denying
I've always trusted science to do the righ thing, in this case, it isn't.
Northie wrote:
fascist-praising
Produce some evidence of that, if you'd be so kind?
Northie wrote:
Topix-monopolizing
Apart from the GW topic, I've posted about 4, maybe 5 posts in other topics.
Northie wrote:
energy industry shill
Shill: Person employed [signifies paid] to decoy or entice others. OED
Northie wrote:
Earthling is actually a closeted back-to-the-land hippie?
I preferred the Bohemian style of the late 50s, early 60s and traditonal jazz.
Northie wrote:
Hah! That so fits.
You can make anything fit in your head.
Northie wrote:
Meanwhile, the world's people are flocking to major cities more than ever, and for good reason. Cities are where jobs actually pay, where science is respected and nourished, and where talent mixes and makes magic--very unlike rural Spain, or rural anywhere.
Cities are the best places to make money, I lived in the County of London, England, from 1964 - 1988, made my pile and retired to the rural Spain in January 1990, leaving the hustle and bustle of city life to those who need it.
BTW, cities are also places where many poor and destitute people live off of handouts.
Spokane, settled in 1871 and officially incorporated as a city in 1881.
2010 population, 208,916.
London, founded around 1070 BC, current population, approx 7.5 million.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#4 Jun 10, 2011
Northie wrote:
<quoted text>
That old science-denying, fascist-praising, Topix-monopolizing energy industry shill Earthling is actually a closeted back-to-the-land hippie? Hah! That so fits.
Meanwhile, the world's people are flocking to major cities more than ever, and for good reason. Cities are where jobs actually pay, where science is respected and nourished, and where talent mixes and makes magic--very unlike rural Spain, or rural anywhere.
That is funny coming from you. So far I have yet to see Earthling deny anything science related while you have had a long histroy of denying anything that didn't fit with your agenda.

Speaking of facts do you have any that prove that people are flocking to cities like your claiming? Cities are also where poverty is concentrated as well. While there are many well paying jobs in cities there is also a high cost of living which means the money dosn't go as far. That people who now earn twice as much pay three times as much for things like food which means that in the end they end up poorer and worse off than before. In reality once you have a decent transportatin system in place that allows people to travel a reasonable distance they move out of the city to places where they can have more room.

Many places of reserch and learning are not located in cities because the land needed for such places is extensive and cheaper outside of cities. Those are the places where science is conducted. Very little science is conducted inside cities and much of that is in the field of socal engineering.

If anything cities of the future are not going to those bright shining beacons your trying to convince everyone they are going to be. They will be what they have been for dozens of centuries. Dirty, crime ridden, and places people are forced to go and will leave as soon as the situation permits.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#5 Jun 10, 2011
tina anne wrote:
So far I have yet to see Earthling deny anything science related while you have had a long history of denying anything that didn't fit with your agenda.
I'm in no position to 'deny' any science, but I am in a position to compare scientific findings and decide for myself how acurate climate science is and it definitely isn't accurate, because accuracy in a science that's currently at the crawling stage of its infancy is impossible.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#6 Jun 13, 2011
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of facts do you have any that prove that people are flocking to cities like your claiming?
http://www.unfpa.org/swp/2007/english/introdu...

http://www.creativeclass.com/richard_florida/...

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#7 Jun 13, 2011
Filling cities with detritus, is the last thing eco warriors want to see.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

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#8 Jun 13, 2011
"Today, some of the most polluted places in the world are the megacities of the developing world, such as Beijing, New Delhi, and Mexico City. But remember what happened in developed countries. Over a period of several hundred years, increasing incomes were matched by increasing pollution. In the 1930s and 1940s, London was more polluted than Beijing, New Delhi, or Mexico City are today."
Björn Lomborg
http://www.newsweek.com/2011/06/12/bjorn-lomb... #
Northie

Spokane, WA

#9 Jun 13, 2011
"The world's forty largest cities house just 20% of the world's population, yet they generate two thirds of our economic output and nine in ten of our innovations".
-Richard Florida

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

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#10 Jun 13, 2011
I love cities, the restaurants, museums, architecture and life. I prefer to live in the country where it's quiet.

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#11 Jun 13, 2011
Northie wrote:
"The world's forty largest cities house just 20% of the world's population, yet they generate two thirds of our economic output and nine in ten of our innovations".
-Richard Florida
Yep, they also consume more and pollute more so imagine what cramming more detritus into more cities would achieve?

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#12 Jun 13, 2011
I'm going to join forces with these cities, and kick butt: Babylon, Port Royal, Pompeii, Herculaneum, Akrotiri, Indianola, Dunwich, Rungholt, Troy, Tenochtitlan, Camelot, Russian Kitezh, Lyonesse, the Seven Cities of Gold, El Dorado, and Atlantis.

Which cities are you going to join?
Northie

Spokane, WA

#13 Jun 13, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>Yep, they also consume more and pollute more so imagine what cramming more detritus into more cities would achieve?
On the contrary, among people of similar wealth, city dwellers typically consume and pollute far less.

The most polluting, wasteful living is car-dependent suburban sprawl, which more or less defines life for most Americans, Canadians and Australians, as well as for skyrocketing numbers of Latin Americans, South Africans, Russians, Arabs, Indians, Chinese and many others.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

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#14 Jun 13, 2011
Tikal, Machu Pichu, Patagonia, Z, Petra, Memphis (Egypt) and Angkor.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#15 Jun 13, 2011
...Shenzhen, Qingdao, Doha, Abu Dhabi, Ahmedabad, Bangalore, Campinas, Cape Town, Chengdu, Chennai, Hanoi, Kuala Lumpur...

Where were these giant cities fifty years ago? Oh, yeah...they barely existed.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#16 Jun 14, 2011
Northie wrote:
On the contrary, among people of similar wealth, city dwellers typically consume and pollute far less.
So your dream cities will only house people of, "similar wealth?"
Northie wrote:
The most polluting, wasteful living is car-dependent suburban sprawl, which more or less defines life for most Americans, Canadians and Australians
And you're suggesting they're all crammed into cities?
Northie wrote:
as well as for skyrocketing numbers of Latin Americans, South Africans, Russians, Arabs, Indians, Chinese and many others.
Ah yes, the ever increasing number of poor people, where are you going to put them?
bronck burger

Bayonne, NJ

#17 Jun 14, 2011
I SEE northie WAS NEVER IN NYC. WE DEVOUR EVERYTHING. TONS OF EVERYHTING IS CONSUMED IN NYC. GOT THE CITY HOUSE AND MY HOME 30 MILES WEST OF THE NYC ZONE. northie IT IS A LOT CLEANER in the SUB'S. northie is A FUNNY BEING, BUT not to BRIGHT.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

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#18 Jun 14, 2011
Gotham City and Metropolis, too.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

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#19 Jun 14, 2011
Constantinople, Bombay, Canton, Saigon, Peking, Petrograd and Leningrad.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#20 Jun 15, 2011
Northie wrote:
Wow, your trying to convince people and one of yours sources is the UN. Time to think about doing a little quality assurance checking before posting time.

And the other is a cration of Richard Florida who by the way is hawking a lot of books and radion shows on the subject. Or in other words he is the Rush Limbaugh of NPR. what make you think anyone is going to take him any more serious than you would take Rush Limbaugh. The day you become a ditto head is the same day anyone other than those who you consider to be just as narrow minded as those ditto heads will take this person seriously.

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