Orange Township/ Delaware Fire Levy

Orange Township/ Delaware Fire Levy

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Eyes Upon You

Powell, OH

#1 Nov 25, 2012
The suposed hillbillies in Delaware passed a fire levy and they have about a 50k average annual household income. The residents of Orange Township with their annual household income of over 100k didn't pass theirs. This goes to show the flaw with the Republican ideology. It shows those with less give more and help each other, those with more only care about themselves.
jimbob

Pickerington, OH

#2 Dec 7, 2012
I wonder if they realize that part of the fire dept is the medic squad, when they need a medic to get to the hospital for an emergency good luck. Just hope there's no traffic while their relative is driving them.
Some have also said to rely on volunteers. Most of the Orange twp folks are busy working people with kids events etc. This is not the old days in small town America where everyone would hang out at the local fire house between shifts. The one volunteer that I know is constantly drinking. Good luck getting him out of bed in the middle of the night for a fire or medic run after a hard day of drinking.
The people of orange twp are getting away cheap when it comes to a police force. Orange twp adjoins Columbus the 15th largest city in America and the 8th most dangerous city in America with populations over 500,000. They contract and hope that the Delaware sheriffs office will have 3 deputy's in Orange twp.
It is better to have and not need then to need and not have.
Orange Tea

Columbus, OH

#3 Jan 14, 2013
Why do I have to pay an Orange Township Fire/EMS tax, when I am already paying a Delaware County EMS Tax? Shouldn't the Twp. tax be lower, and let the county take over EMS services?
Answer for Orange Tea

New York, NY

#4 Jan 19, 2013
The County collects enough sales tax revenue to support 10 medics distributed evenly throughout Delaware County. You have 3 Medics in Lewis Center, M361, M362, and Delaware County Medic 3. You could save money by having only 1 EMS vehicle (Medic 3), but you would lose the other two EMS vehicles. You want to have an ambulance available for you when you need it, right? Unfortunately Medic 3 would be three times as busy (five times if Liberty's Levy fails) and not available for many of the 911 calls. You get what you pay for. The past trustees wanted enough EMS protection to be capable of responding to two auto accidents. That's why the township tax is higher - to provide ADDITIONAL EMS services.
Conjecture

Egg Harbor Township, NJ

#5 Jan 21, 2013
It is pure conjecture that medic 3 would be five times busier if the Liberty townshgip levy fails. if it fails thhe county would staff one of the Liberty stations with a County EMS unit. Same would likely happen in Orange Township if the levy is voted down.
TV Coverage

Egg Harbor Township, NJ

#6 Jan 22, 2013
The morning TV news had a story about two Orange Township firemen walking around neighborhoods , knocking on doors, dropping off flyers, and begging voters to support the Feb 5 levy. Question were the firemen doing this on the taxpayers dime or were they on their own time? Taxpayers should not be paying them for campaigning for political purposes.
Gary

Marion, OH

#7 Jan 22, 2013
TV Coverage wrote:
The morning TV news had a story about two Orange Township firemen walking around neighborhoods , knocking on doors, dropping off flyers, and begging voters to support the Feb 5 levy. Question were the firemen doing this on the taxpayers dime or were they on their own time? Taxpayers should not be paying them for campaigning for political purposes.
That is a good question to consider. The firefighters were doing this on their own time. The department has been very careful to ensure that the firefighters only work on the levy during their own time. They are conducting their effort above reproach. They are trying to get out accurate information to combat the slew of misinformation being circulated.
Just bc we can afford it

West Portsmouth, OH

#8 Jan 23, 2013
doesn't mean we should pay for some outrageous property tax increase...in both Orange and Liberty. We may have a higher income level than Del City, but so what? We are educated people. We know when we are being jerked around by our elected officials.

Liberty Township still defends their astronomical increase from November. Their literature for that levy stated that the Sawmill Station would close if they levy failed, and then they didn't have to close it, so it just proves what liars they were from the begining. Then they laid off four firemen thinking the public would respond with undying support for the February levy. Well, once you've been lied to, it's pretty hard to believe anything else that comes out of their mouths. They are once again running a terrible campaign for the February levy. I hope it doesn't fail because they have a bunch of inexperienced morons running a make or break campaign and they will not take advice from several seasoned campainers who offered to help.

It's too bad Sybert and Carducci spent the entire year trying to discredit Leneghan to get back at her for beating Bob Mann for trustee and beating Mary Carducci for Central Committee. How childish is that? The November levy was self-serving for Sybert and Carducci and the voters turned it down. You can't blame the voters for the levy failure. It's up to them to decide what is right and what is wrong. The trustees were WRONG! So whose interest were they really looking out for? Ours or theirs? Luckily, Sybert and Carducci are the next two on the ballot next year. I hope they get their asses beat so we will finally have a BOT looking out for the comminity and not themselves.
Eyes Upon You wrote:
The suposed hillbillies in Delaware passed a fire levy and they have about a 50k average annual household income. The residents of Orange Township with their annual household income of over 100k didn't pass theirs. This goes to show the flaw with the Republican ideology. It shows those with less give more and help each other, those with more only care about themselves.
Bend Over Orange Voters

Ashburn, VA

#9 Jan 24, 2013
After u pass the 7.6 mill fire levy , next on the tax agenda is a May 2013 Delaware County Board of Developmental Disabilities issue seeking a 38% increase in property taxes, and the Council for Older Adults of Delaware County seeking a 33% increase in property taxes. To top it off Olentangy Schools will likely seek a November 2013 6-8mil increase for operations and or buildings which will cost the average homeowner around $700 more per year. Isn't life grand in Orange Township. Must be a whole bunch of big money people to afford all these additional taxes.
Carol

Delaware, OH

#10 Jan 24, 2013
You do not have to agree to pay for the services you need or desire. However, your property and safety are at risk. You are choosing to have lower taxes for lower services. You will have no room to vitch when homes and lives are lost at a higher rate.
Risk Acceptance

Netherlands

#11 Jan 24, 2013
Carol wrote:
You do not have to agree to pay for the services you need or desire. However, your property and safety are at risk. You are choosing to have lower taxes for lower services. You will have no room to vitch when homes and lives are lost at a higher rate.
Give me a break if a good portion of Delaware County can get along with Delco EMS and just local fire service why should Orange Township be any different? EMS coverage has nothing to do with the insurance rates for your home. The deal is vote down the joint fire/ms levy m and make the Trustees come back with a fire only levy with the county providing EMS service The County sales tax covers EMS service for the County so why should Orange Township pay double. We all know that if the levy fails the County will be forced to place more EMS personnel in the more densely populated areas e.g. Orange and Liberty townships. It is not appropriate to conclude that there will be less coverage based on square miles.Lastly with Franklin County Commissioners looking to raise its sales tax can Delaware County be far behind?. They should raise the sales tax for increased EMS service. That way all the people visitng Polaris, North Star and the Columbus Zoo will chip in to pay for EMS service to those locations.
Kurt

Delaware, OH

#12 Jan 24, 2013
Risk Acceptance wrote:
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Give me a break if a good portion of Delaware County can get along with Delco EMS and just local fire service why should Orange Township be any different? EMS coverage has nothing to do with the insurance rates for your home. The deal is vote down the joint fire/ms levy m and make the Trustees come back with a fire only levy with the county providing EMS service The County sales tax covers EMS service for the County so why should Orange Township pay double. We all know that if the levy fails the County will be forced to place more EMS personnel in the more densely populated areas e.g. Orange and Liberty townships. It is not appropriate to conclude that there will be less coverage based on square miles.Lastly with Franklin County Commissioners looking to raise its sales tax can Delaware County be far behind?. They should raise the sales tax for increased EMS service. That way all the people visitng Polaris, North Star and the Columbus Zoo will chip in to pay for EMS service to those locations.
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Feel free to look at a map sometime.
Calvin

Mount Vernon, OH

#13 Jan 25, 2013
It is not just square miles that matter. Population density is an issue as well.
http://delgazette.com/2013/01/one-county-ems-...
Anti JW

Radnor, OH

#14 Jan 25, 2013
Several years ago the fire dept had a surplus in funds. The trustees was going to reduce the amount of tax money collected. Chief Stewart told the the trustees not to do that because he would spend the money. Spend he did.

They bought a 500,000.00 plus rescue truck for the fire dept. The firefighters was fighting over which station to put it. Chief Stewart went out and bought another one so the firefighters would quit fighting over which station the first one would be located. Thees over a million dollars.

Also ask the fire dept how many EMS runs they go on and transport a patient. They respond and go play and wait for the county EMS medic to show up and transport because thats their job. Orenge twp firefighters go back to the firehouse.

EMS runs are nothing more than numbers so they can brag about how busy and over worked they are. Then they need even more manpower.

Just s you know, if your house is on fire there will be a response from Orange twp. They will also call for equipment and manpower from 4-5 other depts. You definantly won't be without a firetruck and 50 firefighters.

There is so much waste in the fire depts.Vote no on the levy and hold them more accountable.
Anti JW

Radnor, OH

#15 Jan 26, 2013
You need to check the facts above. You will find that everything is true. Ask the fire dept how many transoprts they due vs how many runs they go on. You'll be amazed.
jimbob

Pataskala, OH

#17 Jan 31, 2013
The contract with the Deputies in Orange Twp. has been cancelled, to pay for the Fire dept.
The people of Orange have a contract with the Sheriff's office to maintain a certain amount of Deputies in the Twp at all times. Now that's cancelled and I believe the contract will end within six months.
The people of Orange will be lucky to have one or two Deputy's assigned in Orange Twp. Most of their time will be spent at Walmart.
jimbob

Pataskala, OH

#18 Jan 31, 2013
The contract with the Deputies in Orange Twp. has been cancelled, to pay for the Fire dept.
The people of Orange have a contract with the Sheriff's office to maintain a certain amount of Deputies in the Twp at all times. Now that's cancelled and I believe the contract will end within six months.
The people of Orange will be lucky to have one or two Deputy's assigned in Orange Twp. Most of their time will be spent at Walmart dealing with shop lifters and all the riff raff.
FatJoe

Sunbury, OH

#19 Feb 1, 2013
Hey Orange Township Trustees,

FatJoe the Fire Inspector has chased more business from the township based on his racist ego. Why is this gorilla allowed to bully business owners to death and reduce our tax base. Is he still driving his township truck back to his home in Marion County? Just ask all the minority restaurant owners in the Super WalMart complex about this pig....FatJoe must Go!
Barry

Portsmouth, OH

#21 Feb 6, 2013
It looks like the bulk of the voters realized that having a fire department close by was in their best interest. Thanks residents. You made the right choice.
realitydelaware

Lewis Center, OH

#23 Feb 28, 2015
None of you ran the numbers did you?(That were provided by the fire department btw) You don't need that many firefighters a town that small with no hi rise buildings and having one firehouse would not increase your homeowners insurance (I have a friend who is an actuary who ran the numbers and response times too). I believe at the time we had a combined 66 firefighters and medics when almost 95% of our calls are ambulance runs. WAKE UP people. For a town of 27K at the time of the census? What do other towns/countys across the country do with hirises and a similar size population? They have a partial volunteer department and full time EMS squad in the county. Sound familiar? Yeah Berlin Township does it right up the road. And now we want a community center. GREAT. Shutdown a firehouse we don't need then. Uneducated voters are the problem. We need medics not firefighters. What happens when they all retire? Say hello to higher taxes for people you didn't need in the first place. I would rather use it for a community center. But you will vote for that too. STOP voting with emotion and to make yourself feel better. Use some data and research. CLOSE A FIREHOUSE. Stop spending other people's money when it isn't needed.

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