pay no attention to lies from Olentan...

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#23 Oct 15, 2013
So I will ask a simple and direct question to "Springboro parent":

Do you think creationism should be taught in science class?
Boro Native

Johnstown, OH

#24 Oct 15, 2013
Have the parents who have posted on here attended any of Springboro's school board meetings? It is amazing what occurs...specifically who is removed from meetings and who is allowed to continue speaking (rebel flag wavers). Channel One is too liberal????? If you think the Creationism piece is bogus, think again. Threatening teachers jobs if they speak out against the school board? Teachers can't focus on children and education with all of this school board imposed drama! Hopefully the upcoming election will replace current board members and allow Springboro to reclaim its lost honor and grace.
OLSD Board Attendee

Powell, OH

#25 Oct 15, 2013
Boro Native wrote:
Have the parents who have posted on here attended any of Springboro's school board meetings? It is amazing what occurs...specifically who is removed from meetings and who is allowed to continue speaking (rebel flag wavers). Channel One is too liberal????? If you think the Creationism piece is bogus, think again. Threatening teachers jobs if they speak out against the school board? Teachers can't focus on children and education with all of this school board imposed drama! Hopefully the upcoming election will replace current board members and allow Springboro to reclaim its lost honor and grace.
Our board meetings are no different. At the recent BOE meeting where community Q&A was a scheduled item on the agenda, it was cut short by a 4 - 1 to vote. It seems that your board may be conservatively run while ours is liberally run. I find it amazing that any idea that is contrary to the board majority is met with firm opposition and silenced. If our leaders on the local level act this way, how can we possibly expect leaders in Washington to act any better. The craziest part about all of this is that I truly believe everyone has their (even the communities) children's best interest at heart. However, emotion over takes common sense and respect I guess.
Concerned

Columbus, OH

#26 Oct 16, 2013
TeaBaggers have no business in our schools. I am all for being "fiscally conservative" on many issues. One area I am not is when it comes to education.

1. Teachers should not be paid less. The whole "they only work 9 months a year" is laughable. If you have a child in this district you understand how blessed we are. I cannot tell you how many emails I have received at 10PM about my childs progress. To attract the best your pay needs to be competitive.

2. Extracurricular activities WILL 100% be cut under the Teabaggers platform. Its a FACT. When you make budget cuts the first things to get cut are the arts, sports, clubs, PTO etc... These are VITAL in keeping our kids active in the community. It gives them OWNERSHIP of their school. Take them away and watch what happens.

3. Teaching "creationism" is RIDICULOUS. This is coming from a Christian too. Teach kids based on SCIENCE and FACTS. It is up to parents to instill Christian beliefs and faith based items. Now Im not saying get rid of the Pledge of Allegance or anything like that. But what I am saying if you want a Christian based education send your school to a Christian school. There are a lot of great ones.

4. Why are Springsboro Tea Baggers so interested in Olentangy? Really ask yourself that question. If people in Springsboro think there school system so great they really have done NO research in where they stand comparatively speaking. This is the problem I have with the Tea Party taking over my Republican party. They totally ignore the facts of any argument. They use vague terms like "your not American" and "Christians are being persecuted". They ignore facts and the facts are that if TeaBaggers are elected to the school board we will all pay dearly especially our kids
Concerned

Columbus, OH

#27 Oct 16, 2013
Springboro parent wrote:
<quoted text>
This afternoon, perhaps your computer equipment is responding better.
In order to view the following Dayton channel 2 news report about Springboro superintendent Petrey's response regarding the Olentangy United youtube, you will first need to find, then "click" on the big white arrow in the middle of the big white circle.
http://www.wdtn.com/news/local/warren/springb ...
You mean the superintendent of a school system was not critical of the group of people in charge of renewing his contract? Thats a shocker. Extreme radicals on BOTH sides is what is wrong with this country. Vote these teabaggers in and watch what happens next. Im all for cutting budget but NOT when it comes to our kids

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#28 Oct 16, 2013
Bueller? Bueller?
Be a role model

United States

#29 Oct 17, 2013
Concerned wrote:
4. Why are Springsboro Tea Baggers so interested in Olentangy? Really ask yourself that question. If people in Springsboro think there school system so great they really have done NO research in where they stand comparatively speaking. This is the problem I have with the Tea Party taking over my Republican party. They totally ignore the facts of any argument. They use vague terms like "your not American" and "Christians are being persecuted". They ignore facts and the facts are that if TeaBaggers are elected to the school board we will all pay dearly especially our kids
I don't think Springboro was interested in Olentangy, at least not until Feasel / King supporters created a video bashing their district with lies and mis-truths. Now they are trying to set the record straight.

Also, PTO's can't be "cut" because they aren't funded by the district. They are parent run organizations. Stop spewing hate and let's talk about facts.
Concerned

Columbus, OH

#30 Oct 17, 2013
Be a role model wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think Springboro was interested in Olentangy, at least not until Feasel / King supporters created a video bashing their district with lies and mis-truths. Now they are trying to set the record straight.
Also, PTO's can't be "cut" because they aren't funded by the district. They are parent run organizations. Stop spewing hate and let's talk about facts.
Any school district that cuts extracurricular activities and teaches creationism is not a school that I want my child going to. As for Springboro having a "great school system" that is a joke. It is average at best. Students should be taught science not religion. If you want your kids taught Christianity send them to a Christian school.
Springboro Parent

Girard, OH

#31 Oct 17, 2013
Concerned wrote:
TeaBaggers have no business in our schools. I am all for being "fiscally conservative" on many issues. One area I am not is when it comes to education.
1. Teachers should not be paid less.
2. Extracurricular activities WILL 100% be cut under the Teabaggers platform.
3. Teaching "creationism" is RIDICULOUS.
Kelly Kohls based her school board campaign platform on smarter spending practices. In 2009 Kelly won a board seat. Between 2009-2011, she was a minority member. To be frank, the other 4 board seats, the former superintendent and the former district treasurer were pawns for the teachers union. During that period the budgeting processes and 5-year forecasting for Springboro City Schools was in absolute chaos. That board didn't collectively possess enough gahoonies to say NO to money requisitions as they came along. Coupled with that was a certain degree of financial ineptness. At one point Springboro city schools wallowing close to $25 million in the red.

This community had little faith in this board's leadership This community had even less faith in a spiteful superintendent. As a result, voters in this district voted down 5 consecutive requests for millage.

Was the Springboro union-puppet board doing their job correctly? Was the Springboro union-puppet board properly representing the interests of the ENTIRE community (as all publically-elected school board member should do), or was the Springboro union-puppet board only representing the interests of those contained under roofs of district buildings?

Nov. 2011, two conservatives dominate at the polls and win board seats. The beleaguered district budget immediately becomes the central focus of debate. By 2013 the aforementioned deficit is turned around and now the district sees a $5+ million surplus. A generous teachers contract was negotiated this past summer. In addition to this, this new board was able to lower pay to participate from $475 to $260 for high school students. The district now enjoys 11 new buses, new textbooks, more than 1100 new computers.

No extra-curriculars have been cut.
No sports have been cut.
No clubs have been cut.
No PTOs have been cut.

The conservative-led Springboro school board helped to recover hundreds of thousands of dollars for Springboro City Schools by helping to uncover an embezzelement by a former booster official.
The previous board would have collectively lacked the financial prowess to do such. There are many in this community who believe a political triangle existed amongst union-puppets of the previous board, former Springboro City Schools administrators, and former Springboro booster officials, possibly including a booster who's now finishing a 90 day jail sentence.

No one in Springboro City Schools has ever wanted to "teach" creationism in our schools. What you're reading is out of control exploded media hype. A board member makes a proposal for the addition of a class "Teachings and Debates of the Founding Fathers". What happens next? A select group of liberals in this district go absolutely insane over separation of church and state. What a shame! This millenium generation will sure lose a lot of perspective in the struggles, debates, fistfights and spilt blood on Congress' floor that it took to build America.

Boro's superintendent Petrey has been recently quoted as saying this district is about encouragment of open and free expression. As a parent of older children in this district, I'd say Petrey's assessment is accurate.
Slim Fensterbrecher

Powell, OH

#32 Oct 21, 2013
Let's stop the lies from Olentangy United and he teacher's union. Any ideas who funded the video? It costs about $10k to produce that.

Let's summarize:
The opposition is fueled by fabrication of the truth, and they have just run out of gas.

Let's clean up the mud being thrown:

(1) PTO and Booster groups are self-funded. There is no "defunding" of these groups by a board member.

(2) Adam White asked for the "defunding" of administrative full pay retirement "pick up" on the "pick up", in excess of $1million, so that money could be used to fund elementary school fees for core subject textbooks and alleviate parents from paying a fee for their child's math and science books.

(3) Adam White voted against authorizing school related groups to represent the voice of the District whose terms did not include financial oversight and accountability.

(4) To this date, Katy Barriclow and Brian Helwig have neither met nor spoken with Kelly Kohls from Springboro regarding any campaign strategy.

(5) PTO, booster groups and sports have not been eliminated...but are thriving in Springboro. Read the response from Springboro's Superintendent to the lies contained in the "Olentangy Hidden Agenda" youtube video http://springboro.org.schools.bz/districtNews...

(6)A Dose of truth about Olentangy United's deceitful claims of defunding and eliminating pto, booster groups and sports and academic acheivement:
http://youtu.be/L3ab7K17ptU



The only thing "hidden" from the "agenda" on the opposition's video is the truth.



Please forward the truth.

Springboro parent

Girard, OH

#33 Oct 23, 2013
Slim Fensterbrecher wrote:
Let's stop the lies from Olentangy United and he teacher's union. Any ideas who funded the video? It costs about $10k to produce that.
Let's summarize:
The opposition is fueled by fabrication of the truth, and they have just run out of gas.
Let's clean up the mud being thrown:
(1) PTO and Booster groups are self-funded. There is no "defunding" of these groups by a board member.
(2) Adam White asked for the "defunding" of administrative full pay retirement "pick up" on the "pick up", in excess of $1million, so that money could be used to fund elementary school fees for core subject textbooks and alleviate parents from paying a fee for their child's math and science books.
(3) Adam White voted against authorizing school related groups to represent the voice of the District whose terms did not include financial oversight and accountability.
(4) To this date, Katy Barriclow and Brian Helwig have neither met nor spoken with Kelly Kohls from Springboro regarding any campaign strategy.
(5) PTO, booster groups and sports have not been eliminated...but are thriving in Springboro. Read the response from Springboro's Superintendent to the lies contained in the "Olentangy Hidden Agenda" youtube video http://springboro.org.schools.bz/districtNews...
(6)A Dose of truth about Olentangy United's deceitful claims of defunding and eliminating pto, booster groups and sports and academic acheivement:
http://youtu.be/L3ab7K17ptU
The only thing "hidden" from the "agenda" on the opposition's video is the truth.
Please forward the truth.
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

- Mark Twain
thunderball

Dublin, OH

#34 Oct 27, 2013
Slim Fensterbrecher wrote:
Let's stop the lies from Olentangy United and he teacher's union. Any ideas who funded the video? It costs about $10k to produce that.
Let's summarize:
The opposition is fueled by fabrication of the truth, and they have just run out of gas.
Let's clean up the mud being thrown:
(1) PTO and Booster groups are self-funded. There is no "defunding" of these groups by a board member.
(2) Adam White asked for the "defunding" of administrative full pay retirement "pick up" on the "pick up", in excess of $1million, so that money could be used to fund elementary school fees for core subject textbooks and alleviate parents from paying a fee for their child's math and science books.
(3) Adam White voted against authorizing school related groups to represent the voice of the District whose terms did not include financial oversight and accountability.
(4) To this date, Katy Barriclow and Brian Helwig have neither met nor spoken with Kelly Kohls from Springboro regarding any campaign strategy.
(5) PTO, booster groups and sports have not been eliminated...but are thriving in Springboro. Read the response from Springboro's Superintendent to the lies contained in the "Olentangy Hidden Agenda" youtube video http://springboro.org.schools.bz/districtNews...
(6)A Dose of truth about Olentangy United's deceitful claims of defunding and eliminating pto, booster groups and sports and academic acheivement:
http://youtu.be/L3ab7K17ptU
The only thing "hidden" from the "agenda" on the opposition's video is the truth.
Please forward the truth.
Slim is right.The teachers union hates Adam White so much that it is rumored they tried to defeat him by illegally placing signs in their lounge.They further paid for the disgusting video.Woe anyone that dare challenge the teacher union that is only interested in their pay and benefits,not education.The only thing that saves the schools here is that a majority are from highly educated parents and would do well anywhere.Thus wade and the union take the credit.
No Guzzo No Margello

Powell, OH

#35 Oct 28, 2013
Springboro Parent wrote:
<quoted text>
Kelly Kohls based her school board campaign platform on smarter spending practices. In 2009 Kelly won a board seat. Between 2009-2011, she was a minority member. To be frank, the other 4 board seats, the former superintendent and the former district treasurer were pawns for the teachers union. During that period the budgeting processes and 5-year forecasting for Springboro City Schools was in absolute chaos. That board didn't collectively possess enough gahoonies to say NO to money requisitions as they came along. Coupled with that was a certain degree of financial ineptness. At one point Springboro city schools wallowing close to $25 million in the red.
This community had little faith in this board's leadership This community had even less faith in a spiteful superintendent. As a result, voters in this district voted down 5 consecutive requests for millage.
Was the Springboro union-puppet board doing their job correctly? Was the Springboro union-puppet board properly representing the interests of the ENTIRE community (as all publically-elected school board member should do), or was the Springboro union-puppet board only representing the interests of those contained under roofs of district buildings?
Nov. 2011, two conservatives dominate at the polls and win board seats. The beleaguered district budget immediately becomes the central focus of debate. By 2013 the aforementioned deficit is turned around and now the district sees a $5+ million surplus. A generous teachers contract was negotiated this past summer. In addition to this, this new board was able to lower pay to participate from $475 to $260 for high school students. The district now enjoys 11 new buses, new textbooks, more than 1100 new computers.
No extra-curriculars have been cut.
No sports have been cut.
No clubs have been cut.
No PTOs have been cut.
The conservative-led Springboro school board helped to recover hundreds of thousands of dollars for Springboro City Schools by helping to uncover an embezzelement by a former booster official.
The previous board would have collectively lacked the financial prowess to do such. There are many in this community who believe a political triangle existed amongst union-puppets of the previous board, former Springboro City Schools administrators, and former Springboro booster officials, possibly including a booster who's now finishing a 90 day jail sentence.
No one in Springboro City Schools has ever wanted to "teach" creationism in our schools. What you're reading is out of control exploded media hype. A board member makes a proposal for the addition of a class "Teachings and Debates of the Founding Fathers". What happens next? A select group of liberals in this district go absolutely insane over separation of church and state. What a shame! This millenium generation will sure lose a lot of perspective in the struggles, debates, fistfights and spilt blood on Congress' floor that it took to build America.
Boro's superintendent Petrey has been recently quoted as saying this district is about encouragment of open and free expression. As a parent of older children in this district, I'd say Petrey's assessment is accurate.
This is a scared union that is afraid of change and will do anything to skew the facts. It's a shame that the unions run the boards and the superintendent of schools. The tail wages the dog.
Jensens THUGS

Beacon, NY

#36 Oct 29, 2013
Typical union thuggery. They have no vote in Liberty Township, pay no Township property or income tax and yet are lurking in the shadows attempting to influence the outcome of the Trustee election. Fireboys and girls don't have anything better to do?

The people of Liberty township are on to the Thug mentality of the unions. If you really want to do something positive - VOTE OUT THE UNION!!!!
The Truth Informer

Columbus, OH

#37 Oct 29, 2013
Jensens THUGS wrote:
Typical union thuggery. They have no vote in Liberty Township, pay no Township property or income tax and yet are lurking in the shadows attempting to influence the outcome of the Trustee election. Fireboys and girls don't have anything better to do?
The people of Liberty township are on to the Thug mentality of the unions. If you really want to do something positive - VOTE OUT THE UNION!!!!
My sweet Tempe the Troll,

I think you meant to place this in the Liberty Township Hates its Firefighters forum. I'll cut and paste for you.

Warmest Regards,

The Truth Informer
No Margello

Powell, OH

#38 Oct 29, 2013
Jensens THUGS wrote:
Typical union thuggery. They have no vote in Liberty Township, pay no Township property or income tax and yet are lurking in the shadows attempting to influence the outcome of the Trustee election. Fireboys and girls don't have anything better to do?
The people of Liberty township are on to the Thug mentality of the unions. If you really want to do something positive - VOTE OUT THE UNION!!!!
Your in the wrong forum meathead.
Concerned

Columbus, OH

#39 Oct 30, 2013
I guess I have a simple rule of thumb when voting. I typically vote Republican in most elections. But when I see any influence of the "Tea Party" I vote the opposite way. This portion of the Republican Party goes against everything America should be. They refuse to work with the other side. They deny facts and science by simply saying "your blinded" or "your stupid". If a Republican works with a Democrat they force them out of office. They are making it so in order to be a Republican you must, deny science, hate gays, fear tolerance of different religions, think poor people are poor because its a sweet ride and HATE democrats. They are everything that is wrong with this country and if they bleed into our educational system they will destroy it from the inside out. Kids will be taught Creationism, that every Muslim is a terrorist and have there version of Christianity jammed down their throat.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#40 Oct 30, 2013
The Tea Party is the American Taliban...
Slim Fensterbrecher

Powell, OH

#41 Oct 30, 2013
Eluveitie, Keep that liberal thought going. Perhaps you will wake up one day in your apartment that you share with all your other socialist that drink from the kool aide pitcher of the liberals.

Just because a party disagrees doesn't make them bad. Just because a party wants to return to America its greatness and pride doesn't make them bad. What's bad is the divisions people like yourself are causing in this country.

All hail Obama. Ziek Heil.

Since: Oct 13

Powell, OH

#42 Oct 30, 2013
The Truth Informer wrote:
<quoted text>
My sweet Tempe the Troll,
I think you meant to place this in the Liberty Township Hates its Firefighters forum. I'll cut and paste for you.
Warmest Regards,
The Truth Informer
Why is it that no matter what Powell forum I read, there is someone screeching about "union thugs"? Always a different name, but I can only assume it is one hysterical, fixated individual without much appreciation for history. Unions have been instrumental in bringing about the eight hour work day, weekends, an end to child labor and numerous laws which make the workplace safe for workers. No union is perfect, but I'll never understand the desire to demonize people who devote their lives to running into burning buildings to save people. Or teach our kids. There are worse things to do.

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