Retiring teachers' benefits altered i...

Retiring teachers' benefits altered in Delavan

There are 17 comments on the Walworth County Today story from May 15, 2012, titled Retiring teachers' benefits altered in Delavan. In it, Walworth County Today reports that:

The move comes after an April 23 meeting when board members voted to change insurance carriers and ended post-retirement benefits for new hires.

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Good luck

Delavan, WI

#1 May 15, 2012
Good luck finding teachers who want to work in a lousy school system where they will get virtually no retirement benefits. Be sure to load up the new teachers' classes with the worst behavioral problems, have no aides, and screw their health insurance. It will help all the rest of the districts in the area with open enrollment. Look at your numbers, Delavan. It's already happening.
Real Middle Class Worker

Milwaukee, WI

#2 May 16, 2012
Wah wah wah. We won't get everything given to us. Don't you know we are teachers we should be over paid and get everything given to us on a silver platter and if we don't we are going to cry. wah wah wah. Scott Walker is mean. I heard the next thing he is going to pass is to make you actually work a full 12 months instead of only 9.
Oh dear

Delavan, WI

#3 May 16, 2012
You must harbor a great hatred for teachers. Did you by any chance do poorly in school? I'm sure some nice teachers tried to pull your head out of your ass each day---- who does it for you now? What a silly question. No one is doing it now, are they?
Dave York

Delavan, WI

#4 Jun 1, 2012
when people say bad things about the Delavan school system, they're not bullshitting. It's one of the lousiest school systems in the state. Anybody that says otherwise can go kill themselves.
Oh dear

Milwaukee, WI

#5 Jun 11, 2012
Now, Now, they have a great school system with nice teachers. It is not the teachers or the school systems fault. It is the students fault. If those nice teachers had better students they would be a better school system.
Independant study

United States

#6 Jun 16, 2012
Teachers! Get a grip! Join reality! Realize that most people in the real world contribute to their health insurance. Most tax payers do not have a problem with teachers; we have a problem with YOUR UNION gouging us for your health insurance. Why in the hell can you not have normal health insurance, like Blue Cross or Blue Shield for halfo of what your union is charging the WI tax payer? Do you really need to charge us double of what normal people pay????
Oh dear

Delavan, WI

#7 Jun 17, 2012
I can see why you are angry with teachers, considering you never learned to spell--- here's a tip... independent.
wow

Delavan, WI

#8 Jun 18, 2012
Why do you think the union is charging the WI tax payer? Teachers earn their money. It's part of their benefit plan. They have taken insurance in lieu of salary. That's like saying I can tell the Delavan mayor how to spend his money because I have his family picking up my garbage. My money pays for what ever he buys. C
Oh dear

Milwaukee, WI

#9 Jun 19, 2012
The union charges double for the insurance so we have money to fight the Koch Brothers. If we don't have that money we can't support the political candidate that will look out for the union. Where do you think all the money we gave Kathleen Faulk came from? It sure wasn't just from union dues buddy. Lets be fair about this now. Kathleen would have beat Walker if she would of had a chance. It is all Milwaukee's fault.
Vic

Sharon, WI

#10 Jun 21, 2012
Oh dear wrote:
The union charges double for the insurance so we have money to fight the Koch Brothers. If we don't have that money we can't support the political candidate that will look out for the union. Where do you think all the money we gave Kathleen Faulk came from? It sure wasn't just from union dues buddy. Lets be fair about this now. Kathleen would have beat Walker if she would of had a chance. It is all Milwaukee's fault.
Wisconsin spoke twice by electing Walker 2 times in his first term. He received more votes in the recall election than in his first election. That means the voters have decided. This is what democracy looks like.

As for dues to fight against the Koch brothers, you are afraid of a boogey man. They have $43,000 directly, and 4.3 million through a PAC. The unions gave far more than that to Barrett in both botched election runs. And thank goodness for the Koch brothers support. The public unions for decades have been taking money out of employees paychecks without their consent and spending it on political campaigns. Has the Koch brothers ever took money from your paycheck?

Why is it that the teachers' union feels that the only way to improve the public school system is to throw more money at it? Milwaukee public school has some of the worst test scores in the country, and has the 4th highest expenditures per student in the entire county.

I have faith that Scott Walker will get Wisconsin on a prosperous path, improve the state infrastructure, enable school administrations to correct their problems, and lower taxes. He will improve our public school system and save every tax payer money. And he will do it all the while the teachers' union is kicking and screaming and doing all they can to keep Wisconsin from moving forward.
Oh dear

Milwaukee, WI

#11 Jun 26, 2012
$4.3 million!!!!!Wow No wonder Kathy didn't have a chance. The people didn't speak the Koch brothers spoke for them.

As Far as Milwaukee school expenditures being high. Considering what those poor teachers are given to work with it is a miracle it doesn't cost $20,000 per child. They truly are miracle workers if you ask me.

Why should we take a pay cut when the tax payers get a raise? We deserve what we get and they have an obligation to pay their fair share......
Vic

Sharon, WI

#12 Jun 27, 2012
Oh dear wrote:
$4.3 million!!!!!Wow No wonder Kathy didn't have a chance. The people didn't speak the Koch brothers spoke for them.
As Far as Milwaukee school expenditures being high. Considering what those poor teachers are given to work with it is a miracle it doesn't cost $20,000 per child. They truly are miracle workers if you ask me.
Why should we take a pay cut when the tax payers get a raise? We deserve what we get and they have an obligation to pay their fair share......
Why didn't the unions give $4.3 million to Kathy? They did for Barrett.
To imply that the teachers are miracle workers, would also imply that they are getting results. Milwaukee test scores are in the toilet.
And what do you mean by "tax payers get a raise"? You do realize that the economy is bad and wages have been stagnant, right? Are you referring to tax cuts? I hope you understand the difference between a tax break and a wage increase. And even if my wage did increase, why is the local teachers' union the first at the trough demanding more?

“It's a bathroom”

Since: Jul 07

Get over it, already

#13 Jul 1, 2012
Real Middle Class Worker wrote:
Wah wah wah. We won't get everything given to us. Don't you know we are teachers we should be over paid and get everything given to us on a silver platter and if we don't we are going to cry. wah wah wah. Scott Walker is mean. I heard the next thing he is going to pass is to make you actually work a full 12 months instead of only 9.
Teachers work 9 months and receive a salary based on 9 months of work. That salary is merely spread out over 12 months (or 24 pay periods).

If teachers are going to work 12 months, taxpayers will have to pony up an additional 3 months salary.

Who's crying now?
Oh dear

Milwaukee, WI

#14 Jul 2, 2012
We are the first to ask for a tax raise because we need it the most. Vic, you try to live 12 months on only 9 month salary. You try that and see how well you survive! We are barely making it here! I may have to take a second job this summer just to make ends meet. It shouldn't be that way.
Vic

Sharon, WI

#15 Jul 25, 2012
Oh dear wrote:
We are the first to ask for a tax raise because we need it the most. Vic, you try to live 12 months on only 9 month salary. You try that and see how well you survive! We are barely making it here! I may have to take a second job this summer just to make ends meet. It shouldn't be that way.
Listen, I'm not trying to sound harsh, but you knew what the salary for 9 months of work was when you took that position. If you need to make more money over the course of 12 months, well then you need to work 12 months.(Like everyone else). I understand that teaching may be your passion. That doesn't mean you get to dictate what it pays. A part time job in the summer is commonplace for many teachers, I understand.

But teachers are grossly underpaid, you may exclaim! Well, not necessarily. Look at this analysis by Forbes.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/warrenmeyer/2011/...

Perhaps, here is a decent compromise. We change the school year to include all 12 months. Maybe it will help our pathetic student test scores when ranked against other first world nations. I could see a few additional 1 week holidays thrown into the schedule. And I could also see a raise for the teachers.

However, when the economy is hurting and the well of state and local taxes has run dry, don't be expecting raises when the rest of us aren't even dreaming of a pay increase. Especially, since as a whole the public school system has been under performing by virtually all metrics and measurements.
2nd wow

Elkhorn, WI

#16 Aug 1, 2012
'would of'..... you used the term 'would of'???????.. didn't you chastise some other person for misspelling a word???... what about your misuse of the English language ..... it's would 'have' not would 'of'
moykal

Artesia, NM

#17 Aug 6, 2012
Dave York wrote:
when people say bad things about the Delavan school system, they're not bullshitting. It's one of the lousiest school systems in the state. Anybody that says otherwise can go kill themselves.
Dave isn't your wife a teacher ?

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