Evacuations, flood warnings continue in Schoharie County - 2 Hours Ago

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Sep 5, 2011
 
so sorry to get back here so many days after your post. if you go right into schoharie, main street, just past the town offices, there is the Reformed Church on the left (going south on 30a). the church is doing a fabulous job of coordinating people, putting them together with folks that need help. thank you for any time you can give. and to all others, please don't think they have enough people there, i know that is something that crosses peoples minds, but there is so much that needs to be done, there can never be enough people to lend a hand here. god bless schoharie!
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#23
Sep 7, 2011
 
anybody know if rt 145 open to go to middleburgh or broome center trying to get up there

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#24
Sep 7, 2011
 
They are evacuating areas of Schoharie County again.:(

Please pray to whatever deity you believe in, if any, for the rain to stop..

http://www.watershedpost.com/2011/evacuation-...
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#25
Sep 7, 2011
 
dennis wrote:
anybody know if rt 145 open to go to middleburgh or broome center trying to get up there
As of last Thurs I was able to get to Broome Center on 145. You have to turn onto 81 and then go up the hill at Cotter Equestrian Center. We had to take Blueberry Hill to Stone Store from there.
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Sep 7, 2011
 
suze wrote:
<quoted text>As of last Thurs I was able to get to Broome Center on 145. You have to turn onto 81 and then go up the hill at Cotter Equestrian Center. We had to take Blueberry Hill to Stone Store from there.
As of 2 hours ago I understand the county has ordered evacuation again.
Scott from Victory NY

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Sep 8, 2011
 

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I was deployed with the fire department along with Ed from Cato to the Village of Schoharie last week to help with the storm effort. My heart goes out to all that live in the Schoharie valley as I read once again this morning they are evacuating area. The current weather pattern is only going to further tax their already thin resources. I hope for the best for everyone in the valley. Be safe!
The Schoharie Fire Department Niagara Engine company brother and sister firefighters are doing wonderful job dealing with a very difficult situation. Be sure to thank them for their services when you see them on the street. They welcomed us with open arms and made our three day stay with them better than we had expected. I would not hesitate to return to help again if they made an additional call for help. There is one special lady her name Sue not sure on her last name with the fire department that was helping us pump basements in the village that left a lasting impression on me. She is a very hard worker and was willing to do what ever she could to help out from pumping basements to directing traffic at a small structure fire that occurred. Many thanks Sue for your help and efforts.
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Sep 9, 2011
 
Is 145 open from Durham to Middleburgh??
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#29
Sep 14, 2011
 
Just to be clear. The Gilboa Dam did have a breach which caused the quick rise in water. My mother lives in the valley and lost her house. The farmers and homeowners lost so much you can't even explain. I recommend anyone reading this to call the papers and ask them to write about the insurance companies and Fema not covering the loss....

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Sep 19, 2011
 
FS-Middleburgh wrote:
Just to be clear. The Gilboa Dam did have a breach which caused the quick rise in water. My mother lives in the valley and lost her house. The farmers and homeowners lost so much you can't even explain. I recommend anyone reading this to call the papers and ask them to write about the insurance companies and Fema not covering the loss....
Can you please provide us with the source of your information regarding this alleged Gilboa Dam breach...Thank you.
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Sep 20, 2011
 
Residents just below the Dam reported four gates were opened which caused the 50 mile an hour rush of flood waters. They saw it with their own eyes as their homes were destroyed. Tell me Gilboa Dam didn't mess this one up?

"The New York City Department of Environmental Protection, which owns the dam as part of its upstate water supply, says warning sirens were triggered Sunday afternoon by rising water due to higher-than-predicted rainfall and the loss of electronic monitoring devices at the dam."

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Sep 20, 2011
 
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Residents just below the Dam reported four gates were opened which caused the 50 mile an hour rush of flood waters. They saw it with their own eyes as their homes were destroyed. Tell me Gilboa Dam didn't mess this one up?
"The New York City Department of Environmental Protection, which owns the dam as part of its upstate water supply, says warning sirens were triggered Sunday afternoon by rising water due to higher-than-predicted rainfall and the loss of electronic monitoring devices at the dam."
I understand, but opening the flood gates is not the same as a breach of the dam. I am not defending NYCDEP at all and I'm not an expert in this area. That said, I believe the dam itself was going to be compromised because the water was backing up, opening the gates would alleviate the back pressure and in actuality, prevent the dam itself from collapsing. Had they not opened the gates and the dam did breach, imagine how much worse things would have been. I drove thru esperance when the sirens were sounding which was approx. 2pm. I truly believe the evacuation orders were made because they knew full well they would need to open the spillway and they wanted to get the people out before they did that.
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Sep 20, 2011
 

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LLT1- You know there is a youtube video floating around of Andrew Cuomo in a Helicopter the next day. They flew over the dam and make a statement that the left side had a breach. Look at the video and tell me what you think. You are right. Things could have been worse but they also could have been better. There is a lot of talk about letting water out days prior. No excuse. They should have prepared for the worse and shouldn't be let out of this easily. The Dam Concerned Citizens, Inc are doing their best right now to get a third party inspector at the dam which is the best idea ever.

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Sep 20, 2011
 
Middleburgh - I don't disagree with you at all. I saw the video of Cuomo flying around, didn't hear the breach part though. I wonder who said that if it was said. If it was Cuomo, he's hardly an engineer and has no expertise to make that kind of statement. NYC DEP should not be let out of this easily and the Dam Concerned Citizens have been doing their best over the years to get NYC to take care of what they rightfully should be taking care of. I'm afraid it's a little too late now though. They should be paying $$ directly to Schoharie County for all the towns and people to use for rebuilding.

NYC should pay for this big time and rightfully so, I believe the dam is there to provide them water and it was their city's ass that was saved through the release of that water, sacrificing my county, it's people, their homes and farms instead....NYC can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.

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Sep 21, 2011
 
and then again, maybe the DCC isn't doing such a great job afterall?? Article from April, 2008....

http://www.timesjournalonline.com/details.asp...

The Dam Concerned Citizens group is off-course, said one of its primary founders Friday.
Lester Hendrix of Schoharie, a primary founder of the group after New York City officials detailed the potential dangers at the Gilboa Dam, blasted DCC officials and said further measures should be taken on inspections.

“Dam Concerned Citizens have missed the boat again,” said Mr. Hendrix, who attended Thursday’s meeting.

“They talked about inspection of the dam during its reconstruction and ignored the need for on-going independent inspection, which I have repeatedly discussed with them and they have repeatedly given mere lip service.”

“DCC won't pursue this because it is controlled by people who enjoy playing cozy with political bigwigs and parading in front of television cameras every month in Schoharie,” Mr. Hendrix said Friday.

“Thursday night DCC bragged about how well they work with government. Government was the problem to begin with and is the problem now. Government does not want independent inspection because it wants to pad its own bureaucracy and thump its chest.
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#36
Sep 21, 2011
 
LLT1 - Well said. I just hope others who read this understand power of the people works. Everyone and anyone needs to keep the chatter up about this. I wrote to some of the Albany papers and contacted the editors giving them local contacts that they should interview. Just have to keep pressing them to do their jobs. Its a great story and they should be reacting. I've seen such dribble lately from the Newspapers. Jeez this is Agriculture Country that is going to take sometime to re-produce.....

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Sep 21, 2011
 
FS-Middleburgh wrote:
LLT1 - Well said. I just hope others who read this understand power of the people works. Everyone and anyone needs to keep the chatter up about this. I wrote to some of the Albany papers and contacted the editors giving them local contacts that they should interview. Just have to keep pressing them to do their jobs. Its a great story and they should be reacting. I've seen such dribble lately from the Newspapers. Jeez this is Agriculture Country that is going to take sometime to re-produce.....
I hear ya there...between this Dam situation and the Hydro-Fracking Fiasco, I'm at my wits end with phone calls, letters, town meetings, etc. etc. Ugh....so much to do, so little time...
KATHLEEN LISSENDEN

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Oct 28, 2011
 

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I hope by now, the water has receded. My heart breaks for all of you who live in Schoharie Valley. My family spent over 20 years there on vacation many years ago. I have such happy memories! Middleburgh was a corner of Heaven for us. And many years before that, my grandfather was a minister in North Blenheim and my aunts were born in the parsonage next to the church. We played by the North Blenheim bridge every year. How sad it is gone now! For all who have lost, I know eventually you will clean up, rebuild etc. You are all in my prayers! Kathleen Lissenden P.S. We used to stay on Clauverwie Road right down from the old original school and we swam in the Schoharie Creek.
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#39
Oct 25, 2013
 
Ahhhhh people stop spelling midddleburgh without the "h" it bugs me soooo much!!!!

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