Beach Smoking Ban

Beach Smoking Ban

There are 160 comments on the XETV San Diego story from May 24, 2006, titled Beach Smoking Ban. In it, XETV San Diego reports that:

Smoking would be prohibited at all San Diego beaches and parks under a proposed ordinance approved Wednesday by a City Council committee.

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Paul Evans

Auburn Hills, MI

#1 May 25, 2006
Smoking should definitely be prohibited on beaches. There is no other place where cigarette smoke both (1) travels so well and (2) is more annoying. Since the beach is a "public good," no one can claim an ownership right which entitles him to smoke. Before you say, hey, that guy's OK: I feel the same way about your dog.
give me a break

AOL

#2 May 25, 2006
this law or "proposed law" is crazy. If someone wants to smoke, let them smoke. It's just like drinking. Is drinking allowed at the beaches? Not everyone likes drinkers or the fact that drinkers are at the beach or littering. I say, fine them for littering, but you are outside in a public place. OUTSIDE is the key word here. If it bothers you that much, how about all the smoke from cars, shops, and every other modern technology just about that lets off fumes. Gonna ban them too???? Are you going to ban every smoker in the world to their own home? oh, forgot people want to ban smokers from smoking in their own homes and cars too. Give me a break
nyyankee

United States

#3 May 25, 2006
Paul Evans wrote:
Smoking should definitely be prohibited on beaches. There is no other place where cigarette smoke both (1) travels so well and (2) is more annoying. Since the beach is a "public good," no one can claim an ownership right which entitles him to smoke. Before you say, hey, that guy's OK: I feel the same way about your dog.
does this mean we can't smoke fish on the beach anymore too?
Gordon

Ottawa, Canada

#4 May 26, 2006
This is actually one of the few smoking laws I agree with. Why? The litter is disgusting, but it's not just cigarette butts. It's also potato chip bags, chocolate bar wrappers, used condoms, leftovers from picnic lunches and so on.

When you throw your garbage away on the beach, the sea isn't going to magically sweep it up! Take care of your environment or your beach will end up like ours, a real scumhole!
revlee

Woodbury, NJ

#5 May 26, 2006
Gordon wrote:
This is actually one of the few smoking laws I agree with. Why? The litter is disgusting, but it's not just cigarette butts. It's also potato chip bags, chocolate bar wrappers, used condoms, leftovers from picnic lunches and so on.
When you throw your garbage away on the beach, the sea isn't going to magically sweep it up! Take care of your environment or your beach will end up like ours, a real scumhole!
Agreed. Litter is disgusting. Let's enforce the littering laws already on the books, which would include smokers and non smokers alike. This proposed law targets only smokers. The fine would be for smoking on the beach or in the park, not for littering.
Gordon

Canada

#6 May 27, 2006
Depends on who is pushing for it. There are some anti-smoking advocates who would go for this just to further indulge in their own fantasy world of lunacy, however there are others like me and you who care about the environment.

I agree with the smoking laws in parks and beaches (which we have none of here) if they are in conjunction with existing littering laws. Additionally beaches and parks are city-owned property so the government does have every right to look after them accordingly, it's when they go after private property someone needs to step in.
revlee

Woodbury, NJ

#7 May 28, 2006
Gordon wrote:
Depends on who is pushing for it. There are some anti-smoking advocates who would go for this just to further indulge in their own fantasy world of lunacy, however there are others like me and you who care about the environment.
I agree with the smoking laws in parks and beaches (which we have none of here) if they are in conjunction with existing littering laws. Additionally beaches and parks are city-owned property so the government does have every right to look after them accordingly, it's when they go after private property someone needs to step in.
Once again, agreed. If the government owns it, then the government can decide the rules and regulations on it. If a private person owns it, that person should have final say on the rules and regulations, providing they are not allowing illegal use of the proerty.
Nancy

Philadelphia, PA

#8 May 29, 2006
revlee wrote:
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Once again, agreed. If the government owns it, then the government can decide the rules and regulations on it. If a private person owns it, that person should have final say on the rules and regulations, providing they are not allowing illegal use of the proerty.
Would you like to step on a cigarette; that is discarded and may still be lit?? Remember we are talking bare feet here.
San Diego Johnny

San Diego, CA

#9 Jul 12, 2006
As a member of the Surfrider Foundation and I Love a Clean San Diego, having participated in beach cleanups, I have picked up many cigarette butts that otherwise might have ended up in the ocean or inside our wildlife (no joke). I applaud the San Diego City Council (for once) for getting behind this ordinance. I may however be tough to enforce.
San Diego Johnny

San Diego, CA

#10 Jul 12, 2006
nyyankee wrote:
<quoted text>does this mean we can't smoke fish on the beach anymore too?
That is the only thing you can smoke!
Rick

Harleysville, PA

#11 Jul 12, 2006
Gordon wrote:
Depends on who is pushing for it. There are some anti-smoking advocates who would go for this just to further indulge in their own fantasy world of lunacy, however there are others like me and you who care about the environment.
I agree with the smoking laws in parks and beaches (which we have none of here) if they are in conjunction with existing littering laws. Additionally beaches and parks are city-owned property so the government does have every right to look after them accordingly, it's when they go after private property someone needs to step in.
If beaches are not owned by the Government, then how does New Jersey, get away with charging for beach tags???
tiffany

Denver, CO

#12 Jul 13, 2006
give me a break wrote:
this law or "proposed law" is crazy. If someone wants to smoke, let them smoke. It's just like drinking. Is drinking allowed at the beaches? Not everyone likes drinkers or the fact that drinkers are at the beach or littering. I say, fine them for littering, but you are outside in a public place. OUTSIDE is the key word here. If it bothers you that much, how about all the smoke from cars, shops, and every other modern technology just about that lets off fumes. Gonna ban them too???? Are you going to ban every smoker in the world to their own home? oh, forgot people want to ban smokers from smoking in their own homes and cars too. Give me a break
this particular smoking ban is not so much related to air quality its about smokers treating the beach like one big ashtray, casually burying or tossing their butts, thats pretty nasty to step on- one gal said "lit", but "wet" is just as gross. imagine your standing at the waters edge enjoying the sunset and the waves rolling up your ankles and you look down at cig butts brushing your leg, nothing ruins the moment more! not to mention the kids who play in the sand, and i don't have kids and i don't really even like them, but tas a child the beach is a fun place and digging through an ashtray is not something memories should be made of.
Debbie

AOL

#13 Jul 15, 2006
Smoking in public places should not be allowed where it exposes others to the stink of the smoke and the exposure to carcinogens. If people want to smoke in their home or cars (although it really ticks me off when they throw their butts out their windows instead of using their ashtrays!), as long as they aren't exposing their children to it, is up to them. Litter on the beach of any kind should not be tolerated. As a huge beach lover I cannot understand why anyone would leave their trash on the beach like it is a garbage dump. It is probably a combination of ignorance and laziness.
Lynda

Scottsdale, AZ

#14 Jul 16, 2006
Debbie wrote:
Smoking in public places should not be allowed where it exposes others to the stink of the smoke and the exposure to carcinogens.
Well, how come you're not as THAT concerned about the stink and carcinogens your car is spewing into the air that everyone is forced to breathe?
Debbie wrote:
If people want to smoke in their home or cars (although it really ticks me off when they throw their butts out their windows instead of using their ashtrays!), as long as they aren't exposing their children to it, is up to them.
And would you like someone to tell you what kind of risks you can or cannot expose your child to? In essence, telling you how to raise your children? Or would you prefer to teach them about life and choices and responsibility for your own belief system rather than someone elses?
Debbie wrote:
Litter on the beach of any kind should not be tolerated. As a huge beach lover I cannot understand why anyone would leave their trash on the beach like it is a garbage dump. It is probably a combination of ignorance and laziness.
This I totally agree with. I've cut my feet on broken glass on the beaches. Anyone leaving their trash around, whether it is on the beach or the street is littering. That is what the litter laws are for, unfortunately most don't do it when law enforcement is around to witness it and enforce the law. Same thing with pet owners, not picking up after their pets do their business on the beach or street.
Pete

Harleysville, PA

#15 Jul 16, 2006
Lynda wrote:
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Well, how come you're not as THAT concerned about the stink and carcinogens your car is spewing into the air that everyone is forced to breathe?
<quoted text>
And would you like someone to tell you what kind of risks you can or cannot expose your child to? In essence, telling you how to raise your children? Or would you prefer to teach them about life and choices and responsibility for your own belief system rather than someone elses?
<quoted text>
This I totally agree with. I've cut my feet on broken glass on the beaches. Anyone leaving their trash around, whether it is on the beach or the street is littering. That is what the litter laws are for, unfortunately most don't do it when law enforcement is around to witness it and enforce the law. Same thing with pet owners, not picking up after their pets do their business on the beach or street.
Or in the neighbors garden. I love cats, I have 2 of my own; but I don't think they should be my neighbors problem, so I keep thim in. I know this has nothing to do with smoking; but I needed to write about this problem.
Ottawa

Brooklyn, NY

#16 Jul 26, 2006
Is smoking prohibited on beaches in Ontario? Where can i find out the info?
Grant

India

#17 Jul 26, 2006
And lets make women cover up their bodies. And ban Ice cream that has a wrapper. While we're at it fit, detectors that detect people urinating in the water. And what about children, people playing ball games. What about banning fat and ugly people? Black people they already have a suntan so should not be taking up space on the beach.

I am flabergasted that anyone would even think about banning smoking on Beaches. If that is what they consider an serious issue they must be living in utopia.
TOM

Holly Springs, NC

#18 Jul 26, 2006
I think that a no f****** ban is ok too
Holly in OB -- San Diego

San Diego, CA

#19 Aug 8, 2006
I live on the beach. I'm a smoker and I drink beer on the beach, too. As of today, that is still legal. I always make sure to dispose of my trash (whatever it is) appropriatly. Littering laws are posted everywhere! But I'm always cleaning up trash (mostly chip bags! as well as THEIR cigarette butts -- NOT MINE!). Most of the kids hang out by the water. The smoke from my cigarette blows AWAY from the water. The kids are fine. The smokers are considerate. But anyone who liters needs to be fined!!!
Holly in OB -- San Diego

San Diego, CA

#20 Aug 8, 2006
I don't know why it said Lakeside, CA. I live in Ocean Beach, San Diego California 92107!!!!!

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