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Deer Park, TX

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#1
Oct 29, 2012
 
We have 2,000 kids that go the our Schools because of open enrollment.
I wonder how much would we save if we stop open enrollment? No wonder they have to raise taxes.
bullshii

Deer Park, TX

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#2
Oct 29, 2012
 
What a waste of our School District money.
facts

Pasadena, TX

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Oct 29, 2012
 

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open enrollment wrote:
We have 2,000 kids that go the our Schools because of open enrollment.
I wonder how much would we save if we stop open enrollment? No wonder they have to raise taxes.
Why don't you visit the district website and do a little research about open enrollment and how it's helping the deficit? Better yet, just call and get your facts straight.
dpcitizen

Houston, TX

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#4
Oct 29, 2012
 
How much does the district receive for each open enrollment student? How much do they spend on each open enrollment student? We are spending more than we receive so please explain your Aggie math.

“I don't believe in mathematics”

Since: Aug 08

De Leon, TX

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Oct 29, 2012
 

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Where I live, our school districts employ people who can do math. They figure out how many transfer students they can handle and make a profit.

Out-of-district students don't cause trouble or they're easily removed. They don't add new expense, yet bring extra revenues.

Of course, DPISD has the help of topix forum members to help with their accounting procedures.
Annuit Coeptis

Pasadena, TX

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#6
Oct 29, 2012
 
DPISD makes money off open enrollment students. Some of you should attend a board meeting now and then, find out what's really going on, maybe ask a few questions from those who know. Come on man, use your head. Quit taking your cheap pot shots and make a real effort to get your facts.
bullshii

Deer Park, TX

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#7
Oct 29, 2012
 
There is no way we are making money and call the School and we have 2,000 kid from open enrollment. Thats like having 2 elementary schools of kids from open enrollment. Mr Adair is building a emprire at the expense of DP. citizen. If they are making money do away with school taxes.
Know

Houston, TX

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#8
Oct 30, 2012
 
Annuit Coeptis wrote:
DPISD makes money off open enrollment students. Some of you should attend a board meeting now and then, find out what's really going on, maybe ask a few questions from those who know. Come on man, use your head. Quit taking your cheap pot shots and make a real effort to get your facts.
You kind of indicate that you know the facts and how it all wokrs. Please tell the rest of us how many open enrollment student exist and how the maths works.
Dpcitizen

Bixby, OK

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#9
Oct 30, 2012
 
How much is received per open enrollment student? How much is spent on each open enrollment student? Adding 2000 kids ( if that is accurate )at no extra cost is not believable. If you believe that I've got some things to sell you. Show me the car fax.

“I don't believe in mathematics”

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De Leon, TX

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#10
Oct 30, 2012
 
Where I live, it's common to have 12 or so kids to a classroom. Sometimes even fewer. Adding 5 or 10 kids from out-of-district is not an added expense and increases revenue. In fact, many of these school districts try to recruit foster kids from group homes that are not in their district. They'll send a bus to pick them up.

A lot of programs need an optimal number of students to be cost-effective. Sometimes it just makes good financial sense to accept out-of-district students.

How this compares to Deer Park, I don't know. But I would bet that DPISD actually analyzes the financial benefit of accepting transfer students. I would even expect that if these students were a net drain on their resources, they would reject them.
dpcitizen

Houston, TX

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Oct 30, 2012
 

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Not true here. Class rooms are more crowded by far. More crowded than they were before open enrollment began.
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Deer Park, TX

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Oct 30, 2012
 

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Think they can,t raise taxes oin open enrollment kids but only property owners, soo they are costing us money. I was told most of the kids don,t speak English.
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Deer Park, TX

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#13
Oct 30, 2012
 
Hezekiah wrote:
Where I live, our school districts employ people who can do math. They figure out how many transfer students they can handle and make a profit.
Out-of-district students don't cause trouble or they're easily removed. They don't add new expense, yet bring extra revenues.
Of course, DPISD has the help of topix forum members to help with their accounting procedures.
Where YOU live is under a rock.
Curious

Pasadena, TX

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#14
Oct 30, 2012
 
I would be interested to know how many applications are denied for open enrollment, if any.
Pinche Gringo

Baytown, TX

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Oct 30, 2012
 
Hezekiah wrote:
Where I live, our school districts employ people who can do math. They figure out how many transfer students they can handle and make a profit.

Out-of-district students don't cause trouble or they're easily removed. They don't add new expense, yet bring extra revenues.

Of course, DPISD has the help of topix forum members to help with their accounting procedures.
you forgot to say teabagger

“I don't believe in mathematics”

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De Leon, TX

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#16
Oct 30, 2012
 
Pinche Gringo wrote:
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you forgot to say teabagger
Why are ignorant Teabagger bigots sensitive about their name?
makesureyouvote

Deer Park, TX

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#17
Oct 31, 2012
 
I hope the news that the DPISD is going to have a vote on tax increase. It seems the DPISD is being very quite about this tax increase. We need to get out the vote.
Scottie

Missouri City, TX

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#18
Oct 31, 2012
 
Dpcitizen wrote:
How much is received per open enrollment student? How much is spent on each open enrollment student? Adding 2000 kids ( if that is accurate )at no extra cost is not believable. If you believe that I've got some things to sell you. Show me the car fax.
In 2009 the DPISD spent about $8K in general funds on each student in the district. This amount does not include the amount of money budgeted for the district's "Robin Hood" payment to the state, the distict's debt, or the distict's food service costs. When those expenses are added, the district spends about $11,744 per student.

I have heard that the district gets a savings of about $2,500 per open enrollment student of some kind. Based on the 2009 cost per student I find it difficult to warrant such enrollment. Cost $11.7K per student and only an assumed benefit of $2.5K. My math does not compute an advantage except to fill class rooms and ask for more money, bond or tax increase, to further expand and build new schools and non core curriculums.
Pinche Gringo

Baytown, TX

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#20
Nov 2, 2012
 
Hezekiah wrote:
<quoted text>Why are ignorant Teabagger bigots sensitive about their name?
You: knock, knock.

Me: who's there?

You: ignorant Teabagger bigot

Me: ignorant Teabagger bigot, who?

You:... that's all I've got.:(
Annuit Coeptis

Pasadena, TX

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Nov 2, 2012
 
Know wrote:
<quoted text>You kind of indicate that you know the facts and how it all wokrs. Please tell the rest of us how many open enrollment student exist and how the maths works.
I can tell you what I think I know...
1. the District has not added any teacher positions just to cover additional students from open enrollment.
2. the District accepts open enrollment students if there is a spot for them, where ever that spot might be...take it or leave it.
3. the District cannot by law transport these students - they must get here and home on their own every day.
4. "Robin Hood" allows the District to keep tax revenue generated by each student (tax rate times $476,500/100). So, the more students you have, the more tax revenue you get to tax and keep in deer park.
5. Open enrollment students have "saved" the District about $50 million over the past 10 years. Yes, they cost money to educate - no kid is free to educate - but they have produced more variable revenue than they have created in variable costs. DPISd has profited from these kids.
6. According to District information, open enrollment students have fewer disciplinary referrals and comparable or better test scores than in district students (usually after a year or two in the district).

So, what exactly is everyone's problem with open enrollment? Aside from the fact that they absolutely do not understand it at all...

Look, I may not be right on the money, but I pay attention to things, so I bet I am close to the bullseye here...

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