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fubar

Corona, CA

#1 Mar 6, 2014
This so called magazine slammed the movie "Twelve Years a Slave" for not portraying any of the slaves as "HAPPY". Not only is that a ridiculous criticism, it is utter bullshyte. THEY NEVER SAW THE FILM. There was a very happy slave in the film and she was a crucial part of the movie. If you haven't seen a movie you shouldn't make criticisms that make you look like an idiot.

This post is not about race but about people talking out of their -sses!
fubar

Corona, CA

#2 Mar 7, 2014
I may be the only movie lover in here.
Eleine

Houston, TX

#3 Mar 8, 2014
I refuse to watch a movie that exploits slavery to make millions for Fat-Cat liberal Hollywood types off of the descendants of slaves.

Slavery, sex, Nazis, child abuse all sell movies. Stop watching them.
Elaine

Houston, TX

#4 Mar 8, 2014
Wow. Misspelled my own name.
fubar

San Jose, CA

#5 Mar 8, 2014
Eleine wrote:
I refuse to watch a movie that exploits slavery to make millions for Fat-Cat liberal Hollywood types off of the descendants of slaves.
Slavery, sex, Nazis, child abuse all sell movies. Stop watching them.
The movie was made from a book written by a Freeman who was kidnapped and sold into slavery. Why do you hate history? Those that don't learn from history are bound to repeat it.(not referring to slavery).I am not sure what your reasoning is. I really don't get it. So we should avoid movies that contain child abuse, war and slavery. So are you also against a movie like "The Passion" or the "Son of God"(which I haven't seen)? Steve McQueen the man behind bringing Solomon Northrop' s story to the screen is an Englishman. One last question, which I don't expect an answer to. What have you got against sex? Violence is okay though or maybe you that was an oversight on your part.

Everything you dislike is in the bible ,except for Nazi's.

I am not trying to fight with you.
Eleine

Houston, TX

#6 Mar 8, 2014
fubar wrote:
<quoted text>The movie was made from a book written by a Freeman who was kidnapped and sold into slavery. Why do you hate history? Those that don't learn from history are bound to repeat it.(not referring to slavery).I am not sure what your reasoning is. I really don't get it. So we should avoid movies that contain child abuse, war and slavery. So are you also against a movie like "The Passion" or the "Son of God"(which I haven't seen)? Steve McQueen the man behind bringing Solomon Northrop' s story to the screen is an Englishman. One last question, which I don't expect an answer to. What have you got against sex? Violence is okay though or maybe you that was an oversight on your part.
Everything you dislike is in the bible ,except for Nazi's.
I am not trying to fight with you.
Hollywood is keeping slavery and racism alive. It inflames the anger of all ethnic groups and preserves the hatred between the "colors", while making hundreds of millions for Hollywood. No one but the movie industry benefits from this exploitation of the African American people.

I urge everyone to not patronize the race baiting.
fubar

Corona, CA

#7 Mar 8, 2014
Eleine wrote:
<quoted text>
Hollywood is keeping slavery and racism alive. It inflames the anger of all ethnic groups and preserves the hatred between the "colors", while making hundreds of millions for Hollywood. No one but the movie industry benefits from this exploitation of the African American people.
I urge everyone to not patronize the race baiting.
This movie had a production budget of 20 million and has taken in @51 million. There is a movement in our country to rewrite history, which is wrong. Michelle Bachman signed a pledge that said black people were better off under slavery.

Japan is in the process of rewriting there history of WW2. There is a movement in their country to rescind their apology to the women of China,Korea, and the Philippines. They forced thousands of these women into virtual sexual slavery for their troops. It took them almost 50 years to apologize the first time. I grew up in LaPorte so I don't need to see a film to remind me of what went on.
We will always disagree on this,I am sure.
sue

Crosby, TX

#8 Mar 8, 2014
what did growing up in LAPORTE have to do with (knowing what went on).???.
do explain
fubar

Corona, CA

#9 Mar 9, 2014
The first black family that was allowed to move to Shoreacres were the Yarboroughs in 78 or 79. It was a get out of jail free card to tell the cops we had seen a black person south of Whorton Weams blvd(SIC) even after that. One of the best athletes in LaPorte history was threatened to be killed by his girlfriend's father etc. What did people call the North Side of LaPorte? It was a great place to grow up and live but not everyone was treated equally. To this day there are people who don't want the schools there mixed. You asked so please don't start calling names. There is far worse stuff that needs to be left alone because some of the people are still living there.
sue

Crosby, TX

#10 Mar 9, 2014
(needs to be left alone)
yes it does-- starting posts about such subjects as race-and colors
only keeps it going.
no fighting with you
just saying posts on that subject only keep the subject alive.
fubar

Corona, CA

#11 Mar 9, 2014
The subject should be kept alive. You can skip over it or ignore it but it will still be out there.

My original post was about a magazine complaining about a movie they hadn't seen. There "talking point" that there was not a depiction of a "happy" slave in the movie. There was a "happy" slave in the movie that was a key part of the plot. It reminded me of "The Last Temptation of Christ" when people picketed and boycotted a movie they hadn't seen and were in fact protesting something that wasn't in that movie either.

I love history and I love movies. Movies are just that though "movies" their main goal is to entertain and tell stories. The truth you have to find for yourself. Lots of people don't like movies and there is nothing wrong with that either.
sue

Crosby, TX

#12 Mar 9, 2014
did not see the movie--will not see the movie
probably boring--way too much drama
and a liberal Hollywood agenda.
fubar

Corona, CA

#13 Mar 11, 2014
Like I said not everyone enjoys movies. Movies using actual depiction of historical subject can be difficult to watch for all kinds of people and reasons.It was a movie about the perseverance of a man's will to survive and get back to his family in spite of horribly impossible circumstances. How is nullifying a liberal agenda and not a theme for humanity?

My parents encouraged me to be a voracious reader and to love movies.
sue

Crosby, TX

#14 Mar 11, 2014
there is no one alive in this country that was a slave before the civil war
there is no one alive in this country that owned slaves before the civil war
it is time to get over it and move on.
Texan

Wichita, KS

#15 Mar 11, 2014
I read a lot, thereby learning a lot. when it comes to movies; not for learning usually. 12 years a slave, The Butler, Son of God, Noah; not where I would go to learn about the subjects being covered, entertained perhaps, learning, not on a bet. 3 days to kill, Mr. Peabody and Sherman; I was entertained, didn't learn anything. That is what I paid for, if I want to learn something I will always go to books, notice I said books not a book.
Elaine

Tucker, GA

#16 Mar 11, 2014
sue wrote:
there is no one alive in this country that was a slave before the civil war
there is no one alive in this country that owned slaves before the civil war
it is time to get over it and move on.
Agree. Its over. Too bad there's still money to be made from it.
fubar

Corona, CA

#17 Mar 11, 2014
sue wrote:
there is no one alive in this country that was a slave before the civil war
there is no one alive in this country that owned slaves before the civil war
it is time to get over it and move on.
You mean after the civil war and that is not true. Slavery is a live and well in this country, but it is no longer sanctioned by the state.
fubar

Corona, CA

#18 Mar 11, 2014
sue wrote:
there is no one alive in this country that was a slave before the civil war
there is no one alive in this country that owned slaves before the civil war
it is time to get over it and move on.
This thread was about a MAGAZINE that trashed a movie it had not seen. It seems to be a popular way to look at things in here.

Drive into Houston and you can find slaves if you know where and what to look for.There is no one who can produce a" Legal" title or deed for a slave, but that doesn't mean there aren't people being held against their will and being forced to do things that would make you cringe.Please forgive my sentence structure. In fact there are lots of white girls and white women being held as slaves in this country.
Texan

Wichita, KS

#19 Mar 12, 2014
fubar, I do not mean to be disrespectful, but now you are nit-picking. sue was talking about Southern Plantation slave owners, and their slaves, and she was totally correct. I will also agree with you that there is still slavery here in America and all over the world, but again that is not what we were discussing on this thread.
Elaine

Tucker, GA

#20 Mar 12, 2014
Im not sure how white slavery in modern times is relevant to the African slavery of 150 years ago.

White slaves are clearly illegal. No wars were foughtt. No white slaves are being oppressed after they are freed.
fubar wrote:
<quoted text>This thread was about a MAGAZINE that trashed a movie it had not seen. It seems to be a popular way to look at things in here.
Drive into Houston and you can find slaves if you know where and what to look for.There is no one who can produce a" Legal" title or deed for a slave, but that doesn't mean there aren't people being held against their will and being forced to do things that would make you cringe.Please forgive my sentence structure. In fact there are lots of white girls and white women being held as slaves in this country.

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