City Attorney who does he work for th...

City Attorney who does he work for the citizens or City Hall

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Scooby

Deer Park, TX

#1 Apr 6, 2009
If you ask the City Attorney a guestion he states that "he works for City Hall not the citizens of Deer Park". I thought if the City is doing something illegal,that this is the person you would asked to get your answer.

Please explain the function of the City Attorney
DPTX?
Gina

United States

#2 Apr 6, 2009
Scooby wrote:
If you ask the City Attorney a guestion he states that "he works for City Hall not the citizens of Deer Park". I thought if the City is doing something illegal,that this is the person you would asked to get your answer.
Please explain the function of the City Attorney
DPTX?
What is the city doing that is illeagal? The city attorney works for the city and prosecutes on behalf of the city. Ever been to traffic court? You will see him there.
DP Tom

Pasadena, TX

#3 Apr 6, 2009
Generally, the City Attorney is the counsel for the city's public officials, the city, and in some cases the employees. The City Attorney's job is to protect the city and it's employees. If he/she finds some wrong doings with the city rest assured you (the citizen) probably won't find out about it.

If you know of illegal activities being done you may want to call the Harris County District Attorney or the State.

“Candor for the few”

Since: Nov 08

Deer Park

#4 Apr 6, 2009
Tom has probably provided a good overview. However, with one caveat... it is the City's Attorney that should properly advise the officials to insure that they aren't doing anything illegal.

I'm not sure that I will concur that the attorney would cover up such actions. While there is a fiduciary responsibility to the city's officials, he is also under the responsibility of the State Bar to uphold his own ethics.

Now, if someone did something illegal, without his prior counsel or knowledge, he may or may not act in their defense, depending on the particular case and the circumstances surrounding it.

In any case, he is not there to provide legal advice to the citizens of Deer Park. You have to hire your own attorney, if that is what you are seeking.
Scooby

Deer Park, TX

#5 Apr 7, 2009
Talk to Harris County District Attorney and they have no power over the City and I would like to ask City Attorney is this legal what the City
is doing and for him to give me answer to the question not legal advice. Who is really over the City?
Attorney
TWL

Phoenix, AZ

#6 Apr 7, 2009
Scooby,
The Harris County District Attorney would have no power over a city, he/she is a District Attorney for a County, not a city. Those are two totally different positions. The city attorneys job is to look out for the city and its employees, not the citizens, thats what public defenders are for.

“Candor for the few”

Since: Nov 08

Deer Park

#7 Apr 7, 2009
If there is a problem with an attorney, the State Bar is over the attorney and will investigate the accusations. If warranted, the attorney may lose their license and criminal charges may also be brought against the attorney, if warranted. The one that will file the charges against the attorney will be determined by the particular charges. Often this may very well be the State's Attorney General's office.

If you wish to find out if the city is doing something illegal, then you should contact your own attorney for legal advice. The city's attorney is hired to advise and give legal advice to the city and its officials. You are not a client of the city's attorney and therefore, he/she is not going to provide you with legal services. Their fiduciary duty is to the city, which is an incorporated entity, by whom the attorney is employed. An incorporated entity is considered by law, a separate and distinct "individual" that may be held accountable for the actions it takes, separate from any others that may be under its employment. Of course, those employed individual may also be held responsible for personal actions that may or may not hold the incorporated entity also responsible, dependent upon the particular matter to be addressed by law.

In other words, you are talking to the wrong person to get answers to your questions and concerns, as you are not the city attorney's client. You will have to hire your own attorney to provide the answers you may be seeking.
Henry H

Houston, TX

#8 Apr 7, 2009
Scooby, what are you trying to do? Are you trying to ask some arbitrary question that you already know the answer too? What is it that you are trying to accomplish here? Do you know of a illegal activity the city is doing or are you trying to play Cindy Sheehan?
Scooby

Deer Park, TX

#9 Apr 7, 2009
This just proves their no check and balance system for the City of Deer Park. City attitudes hire your on attorney, while most citizen can't afford to spend that amount money. To corrected this problem,
City needs a citizen review board that looks into complaint against the City or employee
DP Tom

Pasadena, TX

#10 Apr 7, 2009
Let me elaborate on my response above... "If he/she finds some wrong doings with the city rest assured you (the citizen) probably won't find out about it."

What I meant to say is that if the city attorney finds out of wrong doings he will "advise" the city to have the wrong doing stopped. I didn't mean it to imply the city attorney would cover them up.
DP Tom

Pasadena, TX

#11 Apr 7, 2009
TWL wrote:
Scooby,
The Harris County District Attorney would have no power over a city, he/she is a District Attorney for a County, not a city.
From the Harris County District Attorneys Website:
Public Integrity Division
The Public Integrity Division is responsible for handling complaints concerning conduct which a complainant alleges is a criminal offense committed by an elected or appointed individual who is paid from public funds. Public Integrity also investigates any violation of the Texas Election Code.
http://app.dao.hctx.net/CareersInv.aspx
DPSince75

Houston, TX

#12 Apr 7, 2009
Scooby wrote:
This just proves their no check and balance system for the City of Deer Park. City attitudes hire your on attorney, while most citizen can't afford to spend that amount money. To corrected this problem,
City needs a citizen review board that looks into complaint against the City or employee
That may be the single stupidest thing I`ve ever seen you write--and I`ve read all your misspelled, ungrammatical, nonsensical ramblings. If you have a complaint against the city, just say so. Don`t be making yourself look even more foolish by your conspiracy-filled ramblings that no one can barely comprehend.
DP Tom

Pasadena, TX

#13 Apr 7, 2009
DP75, let's give Scobby a chance to explain him or herself.

Scooby, seriously, what exactly are you trying to accomplish? Has someone done something that could be considered criminal? Do you have an actual incident or are you trying to find out who keeps the city in check?

“Candor for the few”

Since: Nov 08

Deer Park

#14 Apr 7, 2009
Scooby wrote:
City attitudes hire your on attorney, while most citizen can't afford to spend that amount money.
First of all, the city does not hire an attorney to file complaints against the city. They hire the attorney to handle complaints on behalf of the city.

If you need an attorney, then YOU have to hire your own attorney. If you need an attorney and can not afford one, then there IS free lawyer services that you can obtain to represent you. I don't have it immediately available, but you can Google it and find it relatively easy. You can also get some free advice through UofH, as well as Jim Alderman (Google the name).

If you have a complaint against the city, there IS legal actions that can be taken, without hiring a personal attorney, IF it is something that the city is doing wrong (i.e. against the law). This is where a DA or AG comes into the picture and files the charges. You would only be a witness in the case. This works the same way in any criminal case.

If it is a civil matter between you and the city, then you have to hire your own attorney to represent you. The city's attorney will be representing the city. This works the same way in any civil case.

Which part of this are you having trouble understanding? Let me know and I'll see if I can explain it differently.
Scooby

Deer Park, TX

#15 Apr 8, 2009
Have you ever attended a planning and zoning meeting in Deer Park? There is an individual that is on the committee that votes yes on every item that comes up for rezoning. After voting he looks up and states to the audience "I guess I made you mad". This same person stands to make a profit for the new buildings because he stress tests the concrete at the sites. This is a conflict of interest and I would like the city to take this in consideration when someone is on the planning and zoning committee.

City inspectors cannot recommend companies to do plumbing, electrical or any other types of services
to the citizens of Deer Park. This is 100% illegal if they do. City inspectors need to be reminded of this.
Reven

Houston, TX

#16 Apr 8, 2009
Scooby wrote:
Have you ever attended a planning and zoning meeting in Deer Park? There is an individual that is on the committee that votes yes on every item that comes up for rezoning. After voting he looks up and states to the audience "I guess I made you mad". This same person stands to make a profit for the new buildings because he stress tests the concrete at the sites. This is a conflict of interest and I would like the city to take this in consideration when someone is on the planning and zoning committee.
City inspectors cannot recommend companies to do plumbing, electrical or any other types of services
to the citizens of Deer Park. This is 100% illegal if they do. City inspectors need to be reminded of this.
So who is the person you are referring to? I's not aware of anyone on P&Z that is in the concrete testing business.

“Perplexed”

Since: Nov 08

Deer Park

#17 Apr 8, 2009
Scooby wrote:
Have you ever attended a planning and zoning meeting in Deer Park? There is an individual that is on the committee that votes yes on every item that comes up for rezoning. After voting he looks up and states to the audience "I guess I made you mad". This same person stands to make a profit for the new buildings because he stress tests the concrete at the sites. This is a conflict of interest and I would like the city to take this in consideration when someone is on the planning and zoning committee.
City inspectors cannot recommend companies to do plumbing, electrical or any other types of services
to the citizens of Deer Park. This is 100% illegal if they do. City inspectors need to be reminded of this.
Now Scooby, although I haven't attended in a while, there was a time I was going faithfully to each meeting, whether there was anything on the agenda or not. Many times the meeting starts at 7:30 and is over by 7:32. Usually, I am the lone citizen in the audience. Although some have voted for or against rezonings, in ALL the meetings I have attended, for two years now, I have never heard any of them make that particular comment. Which rezoning meetings were you in the audience for, and what were the dates? I would like to go online and reference to the rezoning hearings you are referring to. I always look at the agenda and if there is a rezoning hearing, I am usually there. Please give me more information.

“Perplexed”

Since: Nov 08

Deer Park

#18 Apr 8, 2009
Just for smarty pants Big Ed, I am taking the afternoon off from my ostrich boot camp.
TWL

Phoenix, AZ

#19 Apr 8, 2009
Scooby,

So are you saying that there are city inspectors referring private companies to do work? If this is what you are trying to say, try using some back up like who, what, when, where, why, and how. Without that you sound like a complete blowhard!!!!!
matahairy

La Porte, TX

#20 Apr 28, 2009
There is plenty of back door dealing in this city. The skeletens are climbing out of the sewers over on the SW side of town. There are lots of issues in the trailer parks that citizens are not aware of, and should be. Those parks are so far out of ordinance, they should legally not be operating. There have been lots of comments made at council meetings that shine a light of guilt on the city 'government'. This is a home rule city, meaning they must abide by State law. Apparently NO LAW applies to the trailer park owners, and the city has been fine with that. Funny the very laws not being upheld were written by the city attorney.

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