cruz saenz jr release from prison

cruz saenz jr release from prison

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biker chick

North Little Rock, AR

#1 Nov 21, 2011
Does anyone have any information on Cruz Saenz Jr being released from prison?
biker chick

North Little Rock, AR

#2 Nov 21, 2011
Does anyone have any information on Cruz Saenz Jr. "Diablo" being released from prison?
Who_s asking

Houston, TX

#3 Feb 11, 2012
If he doesn't get paroled then he'll be released in July of 2015...
Meeeee

Austin, TX

#4 Apr 11, 2012
I wonder who "biker chick" could be???
just wondering

Little Rock, AR

#5 Apr 16, 2012
hmmm i bet i know who biker chick is!!! guess she's not heard the news about him and his new woman
Do you read the red flags

Houston, TX

#6 Apr 18, 2012
Do you women know what he's in prison for? Do you have kids? As he will forever have to register as a sex offender... Do you have a clue who Cruz "Diablo" really is? If not I'm sure in time you'll see the Diablo side of him...
biker chick

United States

#7 Apr 26, 2012
Wow...guess I didn't know everything Cruz was in for! Sex Offender??? Kids??? Fill me in please. Where can I find more information?
Do you read the red flags

Houston, TX

#8 May 4, 2012
He is in for sexual assault, aggravated assualt with a deadly weapon and felony violation of a protection order all against his ex-girlfriend. You can go to the vinelink.com type in his name or better yet go to The Texas Department of Corrections and do an offender search, type his name in and it will give you all the information you need, to make an informed choice. You are grown and will do whatever you want, but if you have kids be careful if you enjoy your life be ware. This man is the true meaning of evil... His nickname isn't Diablo for nothing. Oh and if he tries to claim ties to any bike club, understand that he has none. He was ousted for being a nark, and claims tons of people depending on the area but he is nothing to no one.
Nel

Houston, TX

#9 May 8, 2012
I've known Cruz Saenz Jr. for over 15 years and he's never been violent towards me. I think if a woman hits a man...she should expect to get hit back. Not that it's right, but it should be expected. Just my opinion. He's old fashioned...likes to wear the pants so to speak, so...if you push him up against the corner---he's going to react! Duh!! I know Cruz well enough to know that he has no REASON to sexually assault anyone. He's got women bouncing off the walls wanting to be with him---always has. You just can't rape the willing. His mistake was not walking away like he had always been prone to do and start all over somewhere else with someone else. I am not calling Cruz a saint...he clearly is not and has done some things he regrets in his past, but to call him "evil" is taking it a little bit too far. I think it's pretty cowardly of you guys to attack Cruz when he clearly is not able to defend himself. The fact that this discussion is even going on is because the person that started it can't stop thinking about Cruz and wants to know more about him and what is going on with him, but you not only burned your bridge with Cruz---you blew it up!! He would be an idiot to entertain another relationship with you and one thing that Cruz is not--is an idiot. God has better and bigger plans for Cruz....of this I am certain. You were just a stepping stone usd by the Lord to bring Cruz closer to Him...that's all and it worked.

Matthew 7:1-2 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."
Do you read the red flags

Houston, TX

#10 May 10, 2012
Nel,
I think you are foolish to believe you know cruz at all. He has a gift at masking his unsaintly behavior untiil the doors are closed and the lights are out. No, he refused to walk away from my daughter. Yes, he had women he could've moved on with but choose not to, so now he sits in prison for not only raping my daughter but trying to kill her. And I hate to tell you but my daughter never laid a hand on him, nor did she ever deserve the nightmare he put her through. Here's a clue you dont get convicted or better yet you dont plead guilty to something you didnt do. The simple facts are you have no clue who Cruz is behind closed doors and you have no idea all my daughter went through to make him happy only to be devastated by this monster. A pair of lips can say anything you make them say but I was the one called in the middle of the night by the trauma saying my daughter might not make it through the night. He caused her all this pain and this whole nightmare, all the while asking her to marry him. But he was married to another woman supposedly for money and so she could get her papers. Maybe get your facts straight before you speak about something you have no clue about.
Nel

Houston, TX

#11 May 10, 2012
Yes, ma'am...I can understand how you would think that I have no clue as to what I am talking about---I'll get to that in a bit. You say that "He has a gift at masking his unsaintly behavior until the doors are closed and the lights are out", but I would like to know exactly how YOU---as the MOTHER of the woman he "sexually assaulted" would be privy or KNOW such information? Were you ever THERE when the "doors were closed and the lights were out"? The truth is...the ONLY people besides GOD HIMSELF that truly know what happened is Cruz and your daughter. YOU DON'T KNOW. That is a TRUE statement whether you like it or not. Talk about "gathering FACTS and getting it straight before you speak about something that you don't have a clue about"...Is that interesting or what? Besides, re-read my post and you will see that what I am giving you is MY OPINION BASED ON MY RELATIONSHIP AND PAST HISTORY WITH CRUZ. You, ma'am...only know what your DAUGHTER tells you just like we would only know what CRUZ tells us with regards to what happened. The fact that Cruz is convicted of this crime doesn't mean it was fair or just. Look up Alan Northrop, a man wrongfully convicted of rape that spent 17 yrs of his LIFE in prison only to finally be exonerated. Antonio Williams, Thomas Haynesworth, William McCaffrey, Johnnie Lindsey and the list goes on & on. Now...although YOU may not know what happens behind closed doors with the lights out---I DO. I was his girlfriend off & on for many years as well as his friend, the family's friend, advisor, counselor, helper, emotional and spiritual supporter. I cannot say that Cruz & I never had arguments, of course we did, but I never gave him a REASON to resort to violence with me & he never forced me to do anything that I didn't want to do. THAT IS A FACT THAT I CAN ATTEST TO...not an opinion. Of course, I never played with whips, chains, handcuffs or dressed in leather either, but that is JUST ME. You reap what you sow. You want or demand respect? RESPECT YOURSELF first and the rest will follow. Simple. There is such a thing as cause and effect (basic elementary)...you DO something, something else happens that you should be prepared for. Some people are not "gifted" enough to THINK about that before they do the things they do. Your daughter tried to drop the charges against Cruz for the sexual assault of which the STATE would not. FACT. She got HIS family involved with that to try and PREVENT his conviction. FACT. She chased after him (out of state) when he tried to leave her alone. FACT. Your daughter may not have told YOU the full truth for fear of being judged or thought of as a weak woman by you, but the FACT remains that she DID DO THESE THINGS. There is no shame in telling the truth--"Thou shall not bear FALSE WITNESS" comes to mind. That price is paid when we stand before God-and we WILL stand before Him ALONE. I am not conviced of the SEXUAL assault, but as far as the assault on your daughter...I believe that is possible. As I stated before, push a man against the corner and he will react. I don't believe that Cruz woke up one day and decided he was going to beat the living mess out of your daughter. I do believe it was a (let's say it together)-CAUSE AND EFFECT. She did or said something and he reacted. NOT that this is in any way RIGHT or something I condone...but it should be EXPECTED. You still there? Okay...so let's think about what we both want here. YOU want to ruin Cruz's reputation in hopes that he will never be happy and live his life with another woman 'coz you just have all this "hate" for him. I am here to DEFEND that reputation. I am here to open the eyes of all women that Cruz, although difficult at times...IS A GOOD MAN. YES...he is strong minded, old fashioned and in many ways strict, but Cruz-if treated with RESPECT will be your bestfriend and protect you with all that he is. MY OPINION as I know him...not as YOU know him. And as far as I know--I STILL HAVE A RIGHT TO MY OPINION.
Nel

Houston, TX

#13 May 10, 2012
Yes, ma'am...I can understand how you would think that I have no clue as to what I am talking about---I'll get to that in a bit. You say that "He has a gift at masking his unsaintly behavior until the doors are closed and the lights are out", but I would like to know exactly how YOU---as the MOTHER of the woman he "sexually assaulted" would be privy or KNOW such information? Were you ever THERE when the "doors were closed and the lights were out"? The truth is...the ONLY people besides GOD HIMSELF that truly know what happened is Cruz and your daughter. YOU DON'T KNOW. That is a TRUE statement whether you like it or not. Talk about "gathering FACTS and getting it straight before you speak about something that you don't have a clue about"...Is that interesting or what? Besides, re-read my post and you will see that what I am giving you is MY OPINION BASED ON MY RELATIONSHIP AND PAST HISTORY WITH CRUZ. You, ma'am...only know what your DAUGHTER tells you just like we would only know what CRUZ tells us with regards to what happened. The fact that Cruz is convicted of this crime doesn't mean it was fair or just. Look up Alan Northrop, a man wrongfully convicted of rape that spent 17 yrs of his LIFE in prison only to finally be exonerated. Antonio Williams, Thomas Haynesworth, William McCaffrey, Johnnie Lindsey and the list goes on & on. Now...although YOU may not know what happens behind closed doors with the lights out---I DO. I was his girlfriend off & on for many years as well as his friend, the family's friend, advisor, counselor, helper, emotional and spiritual supporter. I cannot say that Cruz & I never had arguments, of course we did, but I never gave him a REASON to resort to violence with me & he never forced me to do anything that I didn't want to do. THAT IS A FACT THAT I CAN ATTEST TO...not an opinion. Of course, I never played with whips, chains, handcuffs or dressed in leather either, but that is JUST ME. You reap what you sow. You want or demand respect? RESPECT YOURSELF first and the rest will follow. Simple. There is such a thing as cause and effect (basic elementary)...you DO something, something else happens that you should be prepared for. Some people are not "gifted" enough to THINK about that before they do the things they do. Your daughter tried to drop the charges against Cruz for the sexual assault of which the STATE would not. FACT. She got HIS family involved with that to try and PREVENT his conviction. FACT. She chased after him (out of state) when he tried to leave her alone. FACT. Your daughter may not have told YOU the full truth for fear of being judged or thought of as a weak woman by you, but the FACT remains that she DID DO THESE THINGS. There is no shame in telling the truth--"Thou shall not bear FALSE WITNESS" comes to mind. That price is paid when we stand before God-and we WILL stand before Him ALONE. I am not conviced of the SEXUAL assault, but as far as the assault on your daughter...I believe that is possible. As I stated before, push a man against the corner and he will react. I don't believe that Cruz woke up one day and decided he was going to beat the living mess out of your daughter. I do believe it was a (let's say it together)-CAUSE AND EFFECT. She did or said something and he reacted. NOT that this is in any way RIGHT or something I condone...but it should be EXPECTED. You still there? Okay...so let's think about what we both want here. YOU want to ruin Cruz's reputation in hopes that he will never be happy and live his life with another woman 'coz you just have all this "hate" for him. I am here to DEFEND that reputation. I am here to open the eyes of all women that Cruz, although difficult at times...IS A GOOD MAN. YES, he is strong minded, old fashioned and in many ways strict, but Cruz-if treated with RESPECT will be your bestfriend and protect you with all that he is. MY OPINION as I know him...not as YOU know him. And as far as I know--I STILL HAVE A RIGHT TO MY OPINION.
Nel

Houston, TX

#14 May 10, 2012
In case you didn't get it the first time...lol. Sorry ;o) Enjoy.
Do you read the red flags

Houston, TX

#15 May 10, 2012
Nel,
Yes I personally bared witness to his violence to my daughter and so did several other people including his mother. You can say your opinion all you want but no my dear you dont have the facts. No my daughter did not chase him when he fled to mexico, quiet the opposite. He was busted coming back into the states after threating not only my daughter's life but also his mothers. Yes, after almost two months of him apologizing (behind bars) to her and begging her to forgive him, yes stupidly and blindly she tried to help him for his children's sake. But make no mistake about it Cruz started hitting my daughter just merely months into their relationship and no there was never a valid reason for it. Sometimes he was drunk, sometimes he was jealous sometimes he was just angry at the world. Im sorry but I do not believe any person whether man or woman ever deserves to be hit. Cruz, still after the rape, the aggravated assault and the wreck he still wrote my daughter begging for forgivness, begging her to marry him. And please understand something Cruz was not wrongly accused nor will he be found innocent ever, look up the case files it is all there in black and white. He plead guilty to all charges, he admitted guilt and even apologized in court for his actions. As a mother I watched my daughter nearly die at the hands of this man. Yes, there was a time we all thought he hung the moon, but he proved us otherwise. I find it hard to believe that a woman could be so blind. Yes you are right you entitled to your opinion and I understand you only know his side of things. But im telling you as one of the persons that witnessed his anger and rage and the still lasting effects of it, it's beyond words or understanding. She worshipped the ground he walked on and allowed him to do and be whatever he wanted while with her. And just as he could anyone, so could she. She was and is a very beautiful, bright and wonderful woman. As I said you are entitled to your opinion, as blind as it is. I have tons of letters from him while in jail begging forgiveness and admitting his wrong doing. Some people are incapable of seeing the writing on the walls. Best of luck to you and God willing he gets the help he so greatly needs durning his time in prison.
Nel

Houston, TX

#16 May 11, 2012
I would like to re-state something just to make things clear. I stated several times that I do NOT condone violence. I also stated that Cruz IS difficult, but is also A GOOD MAN. The REASON that I was the "off and on" ex girlfriend is because I KNEW when to leave and I also knew how to LET HIM LEAVE. I stated that your daughter chased him "out of state" when he tried to leave her alone. I DID NOT STATE WHERE SHE CHASED HIM TO (which was in fact Mexico)--but YOU DID. So you and I KNOW that what I wrote was in fact "something that I had a clue about". Also, you stated "Yes, after almost two months of him apologizing (behind bars) to her and begging her to forgive him, yes stupidly and blindly she tried to help him for his children's sake."--Let's look at this for a second 'coz you confirmed another fact I listed above. Now this is JUST ME (note that I am speaking for MYSELF)--If Cruz had raped, violated and beat me to NEAR DEATH where I and my family did not know whether I would "make it through the night"--I can GUARANTEE--and even with the place his 1st born daughter holds in my heart--that there would be NO WAY that I would try to help HIM for the SAKE OF HIS CHILDREN. They are not even MY children (OR YOUR DAUGHTER'S for that matter) so for ME...that would hold absolutely no weight whatsoever on my decision of prosecuting Cruz to the full extent for what he had done to me. Let's take a look at something else you wrote--"But make no mistake about it Cruz started hitting my daughter just merely months into their relationship and no there was never a valid reason for it." <--THAT was her CLUE to get OUT. You see...YOU, ma'am have an emotional stake in this whereas I...DO NOT. I am on the OUTSIDE looking in as a friend of the family and with no current ties to Cruz and that is why my posts are rational, calmer and based on facts rather than on emotion. I do not want to minimize what Cruz did to your daughter as far as the violence goes 'coz I do know that he has a quick temper and is capable, but I AM defending the SEXUAL ASSAULT that your daughter tried to drop the charges for, which you agree that she DID try to help him (regardless of her reason--stupidity or the children). THAT is what I am defending. The SEXUAL ASSAULT. I am not convinced. You don't need to convince me of the violence--he HAS A BAD TEMPER, but like I stated before...ANY MAN (or woman) pushed too far is going to react. Cruz is OLD-FASHIONED, STRICT AND DEMANDS RESPECT. If any woman can understand that even remotely in the way that I do, then she will have no problem living a normal and fulfilling life with Cruz. You also wrote "I find it hard to believe that a woman could be so blind" as well as "Best of luck to you and God willing he gets the help he so greatly needs during his time in prison". I don't believe in luck--I believe in God. I believe in truth. I also believe that nothing happens without God wanting it to. I believe I am BLESSED to have never undergone anything like what you describe, but I have also had God in my life since I was a child, which I believe is what has always protected me from such things as what you portrayed here. You can call that "blind" and I DO respect your opinion. I believe that Cruz is EXACTLY where GOD wants him to be. There was no other way to get Cruz's attention and I truly believe the conviction is in itself a blessing. I am sorry for what you and your family endured and I will keep you and your daughter in my prayers. Just know that I am not the enemy here. I am a woman of reason and a defender of those that cannot defend themselves, which at the moment--Cruz cannot. I have FIFTEEN years under my belt of knowing Cruz with no violence towards ME at ALL. You may call it luck...I call it being BLESSED with enough INTUITION to know when I needed to walk away. I feel that it's time again to walk away as I will not keep re-stating what I have already stated several times on this page. God Bless and keep you safe. Nel
Do you read the red flags

Houston, TX

#17 May 11, 2012
Again, you are confused on the facts. But I guess what they say is true ignorance is bliss. He tried to kill my daughter twice, hints the felony violation of the protective order. And yes believe it or not my daughter has always had an amazing heart and ability to forgive the unforgivable. She too has known and walked with the Lord her entire life. And no she did not follow nor chase him when he fled to Mexico to avoid being arrested. Once he was arrested at the border she merely drove his mother to see him, because she no means or other way. And again read his charges he pled guilty to all charges. And thankfully he will forever have to register as a sex offfender which is exactly what he is. She walked away, actually she kicked him out of her home Cruz was the one that would not let her go. His exact words, heard them with my ears as did the judge and da if he couldn't have her no one would. He also told the judge that she was his property and no one would keep her from him. Again you only know what is told to you, but I have all the proof in black and white in Cruz's own words and his own handwriting. My daughter was raised very old school and has always believed the man runs the house, she doesn't step on toes and she does not ever put herself in a man's place. She is smarter and was taught better than that. Ask his first ex wife the beatings she was dealted at his hands, ask his second wife about him breaking her arm and beating her up. There is a clear pattern with him and i'm sorry but it can't always be everyone else's fault, as he's the common thread here. Thankfully our God is a forgiving God. But let's be honest most everyone who enters prison finds God for a time. I pray God keeps his hands laid on Cruz for a lifetime, he needs it greatly.
Do you read the red flags

Houston, TX

#18 Jun 14, 2012
Cruz was denied parole, Thank you, Jesus...
Hello Darlin

Houston, TX

#19 Nov 29, 2012
I am amazed after reading all these comments about Cruz. It's more like a book. He would love knowing he's getting all this attention from women! I see he was denied parole. Somehow that surprises me. He always seems to come out on top but I guess not this time. I'm confused tho....if DO YOU READ THE RED FLAGS daughter was so in love with him why did she press charges? More importantly if she KNEW he was married to someone else regardless if it was supposedly for money why would she be with him and believe he wanted to marry her? If Cruz really wanted to get married why would he not marry Nely after a 15 year on/off again relationship. Second question is why would Nely continue to be his on/off again girlfriend for all those years? Isn't it obvious if he wanted to marry her he would have but didn't. He had women in every town and state. I just don't understand what hold he had on these woman. Yes he is handsome and charming but come on ladies.....READ THE RED FLAGS!!!
Nel

Houston, TX

#20 Dec 5, 2012
I enjoyed your post, Darlin. Especially because you referred to me as NELY instead of NEL (AND spelled it RIGHT---with ONE "L"), which tells me you are someone that knows me or at the very least---heard of me from Cruz or the family. I just want to shed some light on something you wrote. Cruz and I did not marry because I never could follow through with it--not because he didn't ask several times or didn't want to. He can be a GOOD man with the right woman, he's just not good enough for ME. Besides, I am already married to a wonderful man who knows all too well the relationship I had with Cruz and his family. We have no secrets and that is something NO woman would ever be able to have with Cruz. It's just not possible because being "secretive" is exactly what Cruz is best at. I wouldn't say Cruz ever had that "hold" on me you wrote about as much as his FAMILY did. I continued the friendship because I love his family. They are great people and I enjoyed being around them---especially his mother, but out of respect and loyalty to my husband...I no longer have that same contact with them that I had before. On a separate note---I would like to apologize to DO YOU READ THE RED FLAGS if I came off cold in my previous posts. It was never my intention to belittle what happened to her daughter. At the time, it made no sense to me because of the Cruz that I KNEW. I took her advice and read the report---it made me sick to read that Cruz could do something so cowardly. I never experienced it from him myself (thank GOD), so I couldn't fathom it. Nevertheless, he is exactly where he needs to be and I hope that Cruz has not only asked for the daughter's forgiveness for what he did to her, but for God's forgiveness as well. Take care and I hope you enjoyed the "book". Nel
Curious

Houston, TX

#21 Dec 16, 2012
Nel said she took advice and read the report.... how do you get a copy of the report?

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