Seattle-Area VA Hospital Criticized

The Department of Veterans Affairs, rocked by reports of shoddy treatment at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, says it has remedied problems that had been described as an 'immediate threat to life' at three ... Full Story
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Lone Wolf Bud

Pleasanton, CA

#1 Jun 15, 2007
My 2 cents worth and my opinion..I have been useing the V.A. here in seattle, for the past 15 yrs.
Now let me say this up front::: I am damn glad that the V.A is there for the service men and now the women.. They have the ability to do some great work.. But they are damn slow about it and the bad to VERY UGLE EXPERINACES I HAVE HAD OUT THERE. My needs aren't as bad as some to most of the people that go there. And I have all ways give up my time to let more needy people get ahead. But the way I have been treated by some of the doctors there . It is like god damn man,, who the hell you think you are any way. I feel I am treated less than a white man. So I found my balls and stand up to them now. They don't like it but I don't really care. It is a long story of the many happens I have had the missfortune to exper. But NO MORE OF THE BAD TREATMENT OR ATTITUDE FROM THOSE SELF CENTERED ASSHOLES OUT THERE..
The other thing is : Why the hell do they spend millons of dollars remolding that seattle joint like they have over the past 15 yrs. If they were to take money and put it to better use and care for the veterns,, It might help stop some the neglect that I have seen towards others out there. And ( V.A. don't give the crappy lie about making room for beter service. That is the gov. standard line used all the time.
The other thing is a funny note;; I know someone that works there and I ask him ;; why do the staff look more spaced out and drugged than the partients... Its hard to tell them apart with out name tags.
Thanks for reading, Lone Wolf
vet

Kingman, AZ

#3 Jun 16, 2007
You did not here of this kind of treatment under clinton and I will tell you why clinton put billons of dollars into the VA and bush has taken billons out for his war and everything else.As a vietnam veteran I was told after applying for health benefits in 2004 and this is straight from the VA office that as of 2003 bush has cut VA benifits so we will have to put you in a different category so please apply again later but if you become totally disabled we will take you in. What a joke bush has been for our veterans.
Angy

La Canada Flintridge, CA

#4 Jun 17, 2007
vet wrote:
You did not here of this kind of treatment under clinton and I will tell you why clinton put billons of dollars into the VA and bush has taken billons out for his war and everything else.As a vietnam veteran I was told after applying for health benefits in 2004 and this is straight from the VA office that as of 2003 bush has cut VA benifits so we will have to put you in a different category so please apply again later but if you become totally disabled we will take you in. What a joke bush has been for our veterans.
You're apsolutly right, the only thing bush does it put more soldiers into war. he didn't know what the problem was in the first place, instead of looking for the main terrorists, he began destroying people's lives.
Nick B

Kirkland, WA

#6 Feb 25, 2009
You guys are all sour grapes. I have been treated for three years at the Seattle hospital and I have nothing but good things to say about the personel and their care and professionalism. So you were in a war and got beat up - Now you want the government to hold your hand. My thought is that a real soldier does his job the best he can. When the job is done he goes home, picks up the pieces and resumes the rest of his life. It's terrible to lose a limb or an eye but it happened to lots of veterans. To bitch and wimper about it later is rather unbecoming of a true soldier. You dished it out like a man - now take it like a man.
dguy

Imperial, MO

#7 Mar 1, 2009
the doctors are ok but the clerks who are black and can't be fired becauseof affirmative action always treat the vets bad. also, it is not a good idea to give jobs to vets at the VA because they treat vets bad.

they need to start firing these nasty clerks who think they can't be termianted because they are black. i'd never tell anyone to join the service to protect these creeps working at the VA who think because they are black or ex-military they can obstruct people trying to get medical care.

“Live...Laugh...L ove!!!”

Since: Feb 09

Seattle, WA

#8 Mar 3, 2009
dguy wrote:
the doctors are ok but the clerks who are black and can't be fired becauseof affirmative action always treat the vets bad. also, it is not a good idea to give jobs to vets at the VA because they treat vets bad.
they need to start firing these nasty clerks who think they can't be termianted because they are black. i'd never tell anyone to join the service to protect these creeps working at the VA who think because they are black or ex-military they can obstruct people trying to get medical care.
Why is everything about race with you? Have you ever thought that maybe the clerks get nasty with you because you have a nasty attitude yourself. I have seen your comments on different threads and you are a bigot and a racist. Maybe these clerks know just how low-down and nasty you really are. As much as you would like to think, black people are not as dumb as you think. We know who likes us and who doesn't.

This thread is supposed to be about how our Veterans feel that they either do or don't receive adequate care. I happen to go to the VA Med Ctr on Columbian Way and have never had a problem with anyone...white, black, or any other race. But everyone does not have a good experience when going there. I have to say that the service could be better in some areas but they are alot better than some of the VA Medical Centers I have been to in the south and other regions of the U.S.

You just need to quit whining about blacks get over it!!! Unnecessary stress you're putting yourself through dguy. I can do nothing but feel sorry for your ignorance and closed mindedness. Oh what a shame!!!
dguy

Imperial, MO

#9 Mar 3, 2009
CeeCee_Seattle wrote:
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Have you ever thought that maybe the clerks get nasty with you because you have a nasty attitude yourself.
they are government workers being paid to service veterans. veterans aren't requried to kiss the *ss of black clerks at the hospitals where they are going to for medical treatment.

blacks at the VA go out of their way to treat white service people bad and lots of those ignorant clerks are ex military.

i suggest every vet call patty murrry or maria cantwell to file a complaint against these ignorant affirmative actioned unqualified people paid by the taxpayers who treat white veterans the same way their relatives in jail are treated by the prison guards.

with all the servicemen returning from iraq with PTSD you'd think they'd would have already told those clerks to not bring their black ghetto attitute to work. there are too many people needing jobs and these people should be fired and replaced with those who actually care about vets.

the seattle VA has all kinds of races working there so why are blacks the only ones who treat white veterans bad? the only whites clerks who treat vets bad are the ones with black bosses who are encouraged to hassle and treat white vets bad.

they all need to be replaced with better qualified people.

“Live...Laugh...L ove!!!”

Since: Feb 09

Seattle, WA

#10 Mar 3, 2009
dguy wrote:
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they are government workers being paid to service veterans. veterans aren't requried to kiss the *ss of black clerks at the hospitals where they are going to for medical treatment.
blacks at the VA go out of their way to treat white service people bad and lots of those ignorant clerks are ex military.
i suggest every vet call patty murrry or maria cantwell to file a complaint against these ignorant affirmative actioned unqualified people paid by the taxpayers who treat white veterans the same way their relatives in jail are treated by the prison guards.
with all the servicemen returning from iraq with PTSD you'd think they'd would have already told those clerks to not bring their black ghetto attitute to work. there are too many people needing jobs and these people should be fired and replaced with those who actually care about vets.
the seattle VA has all kinds of races working there so why are blacks the only ones who treat white veterans bad? the only whites clerks who treat vets bad are the ones with black bosses who are encouraged to hassle and treat white vets bad.
they all need to be replaced with better qualified people.
I know that you really believe what you're saying, and don't get me wrong...I really respect the fact that you have no issues voicing your hatred of African Americans because you keep it real. I admire that. But again, there are alot of unqualified clerks of all races at the VA and if you believe that that these clerks should be fired and qualified people being hired, then there should be just as many white, latino, asian and black...yes I said it...black clerks being fired and hired. I look at the big picture. All blacks aren't ghetto, just as I believe all whites aren't racist rednecks. Again...I am a patient and I don't think that the problem at the VA is related to race at all. I think that with the influx of vets suffering from PTSD and other ailments as a result of all of the wars as well as other related military traumas, the VA just doesn't have the staff or funding to handle all of the patients. It has nothing to do with race.
warren wagner

AOL

#11 Mar 7, 2009
I have observed that some vets do have a bad attitude and seem to think the clecks are the ones who the ones to take their attitude out on.

learn to treat others like you would like to be treated. I see no color only people are trying to do their job under difficult situations. THERE are many vets and only so many clecks and doctors to care for them.

have a thank you and dont forget to say THANK YOU.
I am a Vet and thankful for the service provided.
where would you be without the VET SERVICE.

“Live...Laugh...L ove!!!”

Since: Feb 09

Seattle, WA

#12 Mar 7, 2009
warren wagner wrote:
I have observed that some vets do have a bad attitude and seem to think the clecks are the ones who the ones to take their attitude out on.
learn to treat others like you would like to be treated. I see no color only people are trying to do their job under difficult situations. THERE are many vets and only so many clecks and doctors to care for them.
have a thank you and dont forget to say THANK YOU.
I am a Vet and thankful for the service provided.
where would you be without the VET SERVICE.
Well said Warren...You are absolutely right! I would like to say thank you for your service to our country as well as all the Vets who have served and fought for America's freedom no matter what race they may be. I am a Vet and a proud one at that.

I really appreciate the fact that we have the VA hospital and other services they offer. There are over 48 million Americans without healthcare in this country and that number is growing. Thank God for the VA because there would be many more Veterans without healthcare as well. We should all just be thankful that we have what we have and not go in there with an attitude because things could be alot worse. Remember, there are millions of men, women, and children out there with absolutely no access to healthcare and dieing everyday. We should always remember that the VA is a blessing for the Vets who use it because there is always someone who is a whole lot worse off than we are.

As I said in my post previously and certainly agree with you...The problems at the VA have nothing to do with race. They are short on staffing and funding, but have to deal with the massive numbers of patients.
Snookie

Kent, WA

#13 May 12, 2009
I am a white female vet and go to the VA Medical Center on Columbian Way. Only once have I been treated in a rude manner and that was by a white woman in the Pulmonary Clinic. Every other employee that I have ever dealt with there, from maintenance to doctors, have treated me with warmth and courtesy. Race has never been a problem. I am always polite and respectful to everyone there and their attitude towards me is the same. I have never seen evidence of any behaviour by blacks or anyone else cited by dguy.
sadgal

Seattle, WA

#14 May 26, 2009
hey has anyone been told we tryed to call you and could not get ahold of you, and your family member that they told you would be fine the day before is now critical and given 24 hrs to live??

and you know that they did not try or you would of picked up and rushed down to say your goodbyes.
Joe

Vashon, WA

#15 May 29, 2009
What is trule y a travesty is the claims office in downtown Seattle. You want to talk about rude and nasty. Try and get something through the IRIS system. Also, it is a tough and Loooooong fight to get your claim PROPERLY adjudicated! My claim was remanded by the 2nd highest court in the land and directed the Seatte RO to "EXPEDITIOUSLY TREAT" my claim ( the claim by the way started over ten years ago). Here we are two year later 3 QTC screw ups, 4 IRIS bad attitudes and no resolution and a bunch of nasty attitude. Seattle RO needs a BIG leadership change and a house cleaning for sure. And this ain't bitchin'. These are just the facts so stated!
Jack

Seattle, WA

#16 Jul 1, 2009
I recently had some minor surgery done at the VA Hospital in Seattle. I would like to share my experience with you. I was told to be there at 11AM and my surgey was sched for 1PM. I was rushed into a room with four other men wearing gowns waiting on surgical procedures of one sort or another. I was handed a gown and told to put it on and have a seat in this room with the others. My vitals were taken and I thought I would soon be off to surgery. At 1PM, I had asked if I was coming up soon and was told I was next in line. At 2PM, I am still sitting in the room, in my gown with an IV sticking out of my arm since 11:30. Everyone kept telling me I was next. At 2:30, a DR comes in and intro's herself to me telling me my surgery that was scheduled for 2:30 will be delayed and may have to be rescheduled as the OR may close. Are you kidding me? I said to her. I told her I was scheduled for 1PM and she stated she did not know why I was told that. Anyway, at 3PM I was on my way to surgery, or so I thought. I was taken to the next floor up and told a room was being cleaned and prepped for my surgery. Keep in mind, the IV tube, which is hooked to nothing, is still in my arm. I noticed blood beginning to trickle into the tube. I laid there until 4:30 in the corner of this room. Another hour and a half! I was wheeled in for surgery at 4:40 and woke up in another area at 5:45. As I was waking up, I felt like I was sitting in water. As I attemtped to wake up and figure this out, I looked down and saw that I was sitting in a large amount of blood. The sheet and bed were soaked. I noticed that my blood was running out of one of the IV tubes and all over myself and the bed. I called for some assistance and a gal came up to me, looked at the IV and sad, "Oh, they didn't pull your tube after surgery." She then walked away. I thought she was going to come back with someone or something, but SHE DID NOT COME BACK. By this time, I am in a bit of a panic as there is a large amount of my own blood that has been slowly running out of the IV tube for at least an hour or so. Finally, a male nurse comes up and I tell him. He grabs a small clothespin like plastic clamp and clamps off the tube and stopped the bleeding. But I am soaked as is the bed and sheets. I was sent back downstairs to recovery like this. When I arrived in recovery and showed the nurse, she was stunned. She even called to another nurse saying, "my God, look how they sent him down here." As embarrassing as it was, she cleaned me up and got all of the bedding away from me. I ran home from that point. I can safely say that I will seek medical assistance from another source from this point on.
Snookie

Kent, WA

#17 Jul 1, 2009
Jack, if what you say is true, I hope you have done something about it, such as talk to the patient's advocate at the medical center, talk to Stan Thompsom - the director of the Seattle VA Medical Center. Email Senator Patty Murray because she works to help veterans have everything they need http://murray.senate.gov/ . Email Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont who is working on healthcare reform and he wants to hear people's health care horror stories http://sanders.senate.gov/ . Tell the local TV stations, radio stations and the newspapers. If you were treated in such a deplorable manner your story needs to be out in the media, especially right now when we are trying to improve the nation's health care system. I hope you will tell your story, it is an important one.
Jack

Seattle, WA

#18 Jul 1, 2009
I hear what you are saying. I'm not much for creating situations to involve myself in more negativity. I was pretty stunned at what had occured, but at the end of the day, I was just glad to be home and have a chuckle about the whole thing really. But it's a damn shame it happened in the first place.
Glasnos

Orlando, FL

#19 Jul 4, 2009
I suggest everyone go visit a VA hospital near you ... because under Obama's UHC .. all hospitals will be run just as shoddily ... or worse.
How many times does the federal government have to f**k things up before you people realize that the government never improves matters or makes anything more efficient?
Snookie

Bremerton, WA

#20 Jul 4, 2009
Glasnos wrote:
I suggest everyone go visit a VA hospital near you ... because under Obama's UHC .. all hospitals will be run just as shoddily ... or worse.
How many times does the federal government have to f**k things up before you people realize that the government never improves matters or makes anything more efficient?
Who exactly are you referring to when you say "you people". Your tone sounds as though you intend it to be an insult. I was a homeless vet with no income and no health care. The VA helped me get housing and income and I am grateful for the health care I get at the Seattle VA medical center. I have always been treated well and with respect.
Glasnos

Orlando, FL

#21 Jul 4, 2009
Snookie wrote:
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Who exactly are you referring to when you say "you people". Your tone sounds as though you intend it to be an insult. I was a homeless vet with no income and no health care. The VA helped me get housing and income and I am grateful for the health care I get at the Seattle VA medical center. I have always been treated well and with respect.
I am referring to liberals who totally support UHC, which will put government in control of all hospitals ... not just VA ones.
VA hospitals are on the bottom rung for cleanliness and responsibility.
Our veterans deserve better ... but the answer is definitely not expanding government controlled hospitals.
soldier

Seattle, WA

#22 Jul 8, 2009
dguy wrote:
the doctors are ok but the clerks who are black and can't be fired becauseof affirmative action always treat the vets bad. also, it is not a good idea to give jobs to vets at the VA because they treat vets bad.
they need to start firing these nasty clerks who think they can't be termianted because they are black. i'd never tell anyone to join the service to protect these creeps working at the VA who think because they are black or ex-military they can obstruct people trying to get medical care.
you are not the only person getting treated that way and it's not by the blacks that it's happing to me; it's two whites in the record's release department. so, it goes to show that, it's not blacks it's stupid people with messed minds on others. i hope that your not rascist,because it sounds like you got a problem with blacks; you don't know if they are qualified or not!!! i don't think you was on the hiring commity? so stop contributing to the stupidity and let's get rid of the stupid people who don't help "US".

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