Chance To Clean Up A Mess

Chance To Clean Up A Mess

There are 26 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Aug 18, 2008, titled Chance To Clean Up A Mess. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

We won't clean up the 300-year-old feed trough known as the Connecticut Probate Courts merely by appointing a new, squeaky-clean top judge.

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concerned citizen

Columbia, CT

#22 Aug 25, 2008
I. for one, would love if every probate hearing result were published in a weekly review--like a police blotter.
Let the public judge for themselves what is happenning in the Probate Courts,
Lori Duboys

Boston, MA

#23 Aug 26, 2008
RickGreen wrote:
You bet I have an agenda! And so does the Courant! How do you think the old sheriff system was eliminated?
If we can do it to the sheriff's, we can do it to probate judges!
HOORAY for Rick Green! I wish there were more reporters out there trying to help clean up CORRUPTION IN THE COURTS!

Lori Duboys
annie mckenna

Shoreham, NY

#25 Aug 26, 2008
Dear Enough:

The judicial system is very broken. It must be fixed.
There are four people who can do the job:
Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
Everybody thinks Somebody will surely do it.
It is a job Anybody can do. But Nobody is doing it.
Rick Green is at least trying. What are you doing?


#26 Aug 26, 2008
English Teacher wrote:
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I think Rick needs a grammar lesson. Sheriff's...Sheriff's what? Is there anyone out there who went to college? Anyone?
Would you concede that it could have been a typo. or that it was written in haste and the object of "possession" was just omitted? Or that an imposter wrote that post? Those are three possibilities for you to consider. But, I see that according to you(English Teacher), it could only be due to "lack of education."


#28 Aug 26, 2008
concerned citizen wrote:
I. for one, would love if every probate hearing result were published in a weekly review--like a police blotter.
Let the public judge for themselves what is happenning in the Probate Courts,
Unfortunately, any probate hearing result that would be published, would no more reflect the reality of what goes on behind those closed doors than an elephant to a pig.

The public should be able to SEE, open doors, and the records should be kept accurate and intact. In many courts they have not. What the public has been lead to believe about the duties of the courts and it's fiduciary responsibilites, are opposite from what happens behind the scenes, AND what happens behind those closed doors most of the time. The script for what goes on there was written hundreds of years ago. Each person in this "illicit game" must play a particular part. You have the "monarch," the "officers of the court" who's allegiance is to the court (the judge monarch), but who charge/bills the "accused" (the captured one), who may be fortunate enough to have friends or family who find an attorney would file a writ of Habeas Corpus in ANOTHER court, while the "captured one" and their family pays for ALL the costs for everyone. Everyone!
Free from Corrupticut


#30 Aug 30, 2008
I do not believe thant ANY insider (which Judge Knierim, a 2nd generation probate judge certainly is) will have the fortitude to take on the challenge of reform to the extent needed.

Our family experienced this system first-hand. My mother, a non- CT resident, was brought to CT under false pretenses, and kept there for 3 1/2 years while numerous CT lawyers fattened their coffers from her estate. She was freed only because of a Superior Court judge's decision that CT had NO JURISDICTION over her, as a non-resident. If we had not appealed the probate court's decision (which BTW was extremely expensive, over $100,000) she would still be there in CT.
Judge Keyes, quoted in the article, was one of the two probate judges involved. He also seemed to be equally devoted to keeping my mother in CT as the first judge, allowing her to leave only because she appeared to be on her deathbed.

As long as foxes are guarding the henhouse, this system will not change. Although changes in existing probate laws were unanimously approved by the CT legislature and enacted in Oct 2006, these changes will have minimal impact as long as probate courts continue to be operated by a king-like judge, without due process, full public access and oversight by a higher court system (without the need for those seeking relief to go through a new trial.)

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