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created by: caldwellres | Nov 12, 2009

Lenoir, NC

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Should we profile people such as Muslims ?

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caldwellres

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In recent news we have a psychiatrist that should have been helping our armed forces but instead he kills them. He was a Muslim and their beliefs are in constant conflict with some of ours. If you really love America why would you follow something that does not agree with our beliefs? That to me is just a red flag and I hope I am wrong but expect to see more Muslim's in the news as Obama continues to be president. I am not an expert by any means but have read enough to know that putting them in positions of power in the U.S. may ruin us. PS I am not referring to Obama.
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Nov 12, 2009
 
Not only Muslims, any person or group living on American soil that has proven to be a threat to our safety and way of life...... Political correctness has to go along with the attorneys that back these people. They should be under intensive watch at any time if they choose to speak out against America while on our soil. This probably isn't considered profiling, I would call it preventative safety measures for our country. I know there's freedom of speech, that's fine, but we should have the freedom to watch those that choose to speak against us while on our soil.
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Just another tidbit. We have numerous religious beliefs and types that don't worry me a bit. We have Baptists, Mormons, Catholics, Presbyterians and on and on but none of them have Holy Wars that I am aware of!! Using religion as an excuse to kill is unacceptable and should be banned!!!!!!!
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Should we profile ANY group of people whose "worship" or agenda includes rhetoric of hatred or threats or decrees of death aimed at ANY country group of people?

YES. YES. YES. YES. YES.

Should we profile Muslims because they are Muslim? No!
Minute Man

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Nov 13, 2009
 
We should profile ANYONE or ANY GROUP that is a threat to our public safety, freedoms, and way of life. Radical Islam factions that have professed their desire to kill us or subjugate us MUST be carefully watched. Like many others here, I don't know of any other religious group that publicly expresses the desire or need to kill others in the name of God. What kind of twisted mindset is that?

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caldwellres wrote:
Just another tidbit. We have numerous religious beliefs and types that don't worry me a bit. We have Baptists, Mormons, Catholics, Presbyterians and on and on but none of them have Holy Wars that I am aware of!!
Ever hear of the Crusades? The Inquisition? The Dark Ages? Salem Witch Trials? Hitler? Slavery? What about all of the Christian cults like Jones Town, Waco, Warren Jeffs? What about the thousands of innocent children who have been molested by clergy?

People can twist scripture to justify literally anything. EVERY group has fringe members. It is something in the individual that makes them radical - not a holy book.

I can't help but reminded of this quote:

I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
Susan B. Anthony
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Sick of it wrote:
Should we profile ANY group of people whose "worship" or agenda includes rhetoric of hatred or threats or decrees of death aimed at ANY country group of people?
YES. YES. YES. YES. YES.
Should we profile Muslims because they are Muslim? No!
I think if you look at the votes most disagree with you. Your contradicting yourself by what you say in the first sentence.
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Minute Man wrote:
We should profile ANYONE or ANY GROUP that is a threat to our public safety, freedoms, and way of life. Radical Islam factions that have professed their desire to kill us or subjugate us MUST be carefully watched. Like many others here, I don't know of any other religious group that publicly expresses the desire or need to kill others in the name of God. What kind of twisted mindset is that?
Amen!

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sickofit2 wrote:
<quoted text>I think if you look at the votes most disagree with you. Your contradicting yourself by what you say in the first sentence.
What is right is not always popular, and what is popular is not always right.-Mark Twain a.k.a Samuel Clemens

If you start worrying about only certain people then you're going to miss people who don't look the part. A lot of the most dangerous people know how to blend in. In the end we may stop a few crimes, but we're going to miss a lot of the bigger ones that aren't committed by Muslims.
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Sick of it wrote:
Should we profile ANY group of people whose "worship" or agenda includes rhetoric of hatred or threats or decrees of death aimed at ANY country group of people?
YES. YES. YES. YES. YES.
Should we profile Muslims because they are Muslim? No!
Did GOD profile, He destroyed Sodam, Ahi, Jerico> He even told Nicodemous "You must be born again". Sounds like profiling to me. Whither you believe in profiling or not the word does not change.
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Get rid of all of them

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FOXP2-84 wrote:
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Ever hear of the Crusades? The Inquisition? The Dark Ages? Salem Witch Trials? Hitler? Slavery? What about all of the Christian cults like Jones Town, Waco, Warren Jeffs? What about the thousands of innocent children who have been molested by clergy?
People can twist scripture to justify literally anything. EVERY group has fringe members. It is something in the individual that makes them radical - not a holy book.
I can't help but reminded of this quote:
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
Susan B. Anthony
Your post is somewhat misleading.
I will no speak of the things you posted that happened many years ago. They are in the past and pose no threat today. But the recent things you posted were opposed by almost all Christians and those who committed the wrongs were held to account by Christians. Not so with Muslim terrorists.
Most who write this junk like yours know very little of history or Islam. You are just parrotting the politically correct nonsense you have heard. Islam is a religion of violence. It has been since its creation. Muhammed was a great military leader who spread Islam by force and it has remained so until this day. Muslims only preach peace when it is to their benefit and are just following Muhammed's teaching to "preach peace only until you become strong enough to make war". The Koran expressly mandates violence and oppression and those Muslims who committ terrorists acts are not extremists, they are just faithful followers of Islam. Just like it is only faithful Christians who give to the poor, help their neigbor, and spread the gospel through love. Until we as a people get over our political correctness and stop being cowards we will be held hostage by faithful Muslims at best and may be overthrown at worst. A perfect example is how the MUslims infiltrated Indonesia and gradually worked to take over the country. It is now an Islamic state where anyone who is not Muslim is persecuted. They are well are their way using the same tactics in Europe, especially France. The beginning stages are taking place in America.
You may be right about the tendency to kill being in the individual, but the fact remains that Their book teaches it. When Muslims are taught this by the Koran it BECOMES the individual..... Wake up America, the land of apathetic, lazy, cowards....

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Sick of it wrote:
Should we profile ANY group of people whose "worship" or agenda includes rhetoric of hatred or threats or decrees of death aimed at ANY country group of people?
YES. YES. YES. YES. YES.
Should we profile Muslims because they are Muslim? No!
If you studied Islam instead of listening to those cowards in the media, you would know that this applies to ALL Muslims. And yes I am talking about those coward conservatives in the media as well.....

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gamewell redneck wrote:
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Your post is somewhat misleading.
I will no speak of the things you posted that happened many years ago. They are in the past and pose no threat today. But the recent things you posted were opposed by almost all Christians and those who committed the wrongs were held to account by Christians. Not so with Muslim terrorists.
Most who write this junk like yours know very little of history or Islam. You are just parrotting the politically correct nonsense you have heard. Islam is a religion of violence. It has been since its creation. Muhammed was a great military leader who spread Islam by force and it has remained so until this day. Muslims only preach peace when it is to their benefit and are just following Muhammed's teaching to "preach peace only until you become strong enough to make war". The Koran expressly mandates violence and oppression and those Muslims who committ terrorists acts are not extremists, they are just faithful followers of Islam. Just like it is only faithful Christians who give to the poor, help their neigbor, and spread the gospel through love. Until we as a people get over our political correctness and stop being cowards we will be held hostage by faithful Muslims at best and may be overthrown at worst. A perfect example is how the MUslims infiltrated Indonesia and gradually worked to take over the country. It is now an Islamic state where anyone who is not Muslim is persecuted. They are well are their way using the same tactics in Europe, especially France. The beginning stages are taking place in America.
You may be right about the tendency to kill being in the individual, but the fact remains that Their book teaches it. When Muslims are taught this by the Koran it BECOMES the individual..... Wake up America, the land of apathetic, lazy, cowards....
You might as well say that all Christians are like Fred Phelps. In the bible it talks about killing the nonbelievers all through out the old testament.

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I follow the teachings of Jesus (New Testament). Muslims follow the teachings of Muhammed (Koran) or their new testament... One of love and forgiveness, the other of violence and oppression..... I do not understand your statement about Fred Phelps, most Christians condemn his actions; unlike terrorists who very few Muslims condemn.

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gamewell redneck wrote:
I follow the teachings of Jesus (New Testament). Muslims follow the teachings of Muhammed (Koran) or their new testament... One of love and forgiveness, the other of violence and oppression..... I do not understand your statement about Fred Phelps, most Christians condemn his actions; unlike terrorists who very few Muslims condemn.
I disagree, most Muslims that I have known are totally against terrorist actions. I think the statement earlier in the thread was very poignant regarding the Crusades. This is just history repeating itself. Eventually Islam will get to the point that Christianity is now. By that I mean non-violent. I really don't think most Muslims condone violence. But that's just speaking from personal experience.
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ya them is some badys.
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I disagree, most Muslims that I have known are totally against terrorist actions. I think the statement earlier in the thread was very poignant regarding the Crusades. This is just history repeating itself. Eventually Islam will get to the point that Christianity is now. By that I mean non-violent. I really don't think most Muslims condone violence. But that's just speaking from personal experience.
Have you ever studied the Crusades besides resding some revisionist history, hate the white Catholic account? It was a war of neccessity; a defensive war. The Muslims were taking over the whole world, forcing their religion on others by acts of terror. I am no fan of the Catholic church but in the case of the Crusades they did what was needed to stop this aggression. Their only mistake, just like always throughout history, was that they waited too long to confront the evil which caused much more suffering. They were pre Neville Chamberlains just as all these Muslim sympathizers of today are post Neville Chamberlains. Trying to make friends with evil instead of confronting it.....
I will admit that during the Crusades there were many atrocities committed by BOTH sides, but the origins for the Catholics were just.
Christianity never "got to the point" of being non-violent. Its founder taught this from the beginning. The reason Islam will not is that its founder taught violence from the beginning. That is the big difference between the two concerning violence. Christians who commit acts of violence in the name of their Christianity are perverting the teachings of its founder. Muslims who commit acts of violence in the name of Islam are just being faithful to the teachings of its founder. I have read the teachings of both and this is a fact. Stop listening to what others think (even me) and read what they taught for yourself. That is what the faithful Muslims do (read for themselves) and come to the conclusion that they should kill in the name of Islam. Only then will you know I am writing the truth.
I am kind of perplexed how you say on the one hand most Muslims are against violence but on the other someday it will get to the point of not being violent. Kind of contradicts itself doesn't it?
And on the personal experience thing, unless you have travelled the world extensively, your personal experience is quite limited. There are not enough Muslims in this area, or most areas in the U.S. for that matter, to have much personal experience. Based on what you have written, I don't think you have traveled that much so more than likely you are just writing wishful thinking instead of experience. Correct me if I am wrong.
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gamewell redneck wrote:
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Your post is somewhat misleading.
I will no speak of the things you posted that happened many years ago. They are in the past and pose no threat today. But the recent things you posted were opposed by almost all Christians and those who committed the wrongs were held to account by Christians. Not so with Muslim terrorists.
Most who write this junk like yours know very little of history or Islam. You are just parrotting the politically correct nonsense you have heard. Islam is a religion of violence. It has been since its creation. Muhammed was a great military leader who spread Islam by force and it has remained so until this day. Muslims only preach peace when it is to their benefit and are just following Muhammed's teaching to "preach peace only until you become strong enough to make war". The Koran expressly mandates violence and oppression and those Muslims who committ terrorists acts are not extremists, they are just faithful followers of Islam. Just like it is only faithful Christians who give to the poor, help their neigbor, and spread the gospel through love. Until we as a people get over our political correctness and stop being cowards we will be held hostage by faithful Muslims at best and may be overthrown at worst. A perfect example is how the MUslims infiltrated Indonesia and gradually worked to take over the country. It is now an Islamic state where anyone who is not Muslim is persecuted. They are well are their way using the same tactics in Europe, especially France. The beginning stages are taking place in America.
You may be right about the tendency to kill being in the individual, but the fact remains that Their book teaches it. When Muslims are taught this by the Koran it BECOMES the individual..... Wake up America, the land of apathetic, lazy, cowards....
One of the Middle Easter leaders says he does not believe in the Holocast. I'd like to show him one only this time of the Muslims.
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Wouldn't it be nice if polls like this were conducted throughout the United States and this country was ran by "majority rules"? Think of all the things that has changed because a FEW people are offended or disagree.
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