Off-duty police officer cited after crash killed girl on bicycle

Dec 8, 2006 Read more: The Boston Globe 89
Prosecutors cited an off-duty police officer on Friday for his alleged involvement in an accident that killed a 10-year-old girl who was riding a bike in Foxborough. Read more
TheScoop

Chestnut Hill, MA

#61 Jul 30, 2007
Concerned resident wrote:
I believe that Aaron Fine should receive the max allowed punishment and lose his job as a police officer. He as a police officer would know that he was operating a vehicle which he was not licensed to drive and should have known better. Just because he is a police officer does not entitle him to any forgiveness, he gets paid very well for his position. If this happened to you or me, what do you think would happen? I just thank god that the state police were involved and that the incident was not allowed to be swept under the rug.
What would you expect if this happened to you? Would you want the max punishment? And..what he gets paid to do his job is completely irrelavent. Police Officers do not get paid well to do their jobs. They do it because they care. How much would you want per week to deal with guns, drugs, violence and the general public who hate you until they need you? What's your price?
Concerned Resident

Hingham, MA

#62 Jul 30, 2007
The Scoop, are you for real???? Police get paid very well for their job. They are police officers, at least most of them because they love their jobs. I like thousands of other people would love to have the opportunity to become police officers. If this happened to me I would expect to be punished to the extent of the law.
And it is relavent if he gets his job back. He he put in a level of public trust and should be held to a higher standard whether you agree or not. I still contend that he should have not been driving a vehicle outside of his classification.
If this had happened before he was hired, he would never had been hired. Wake up!

That being said, anything new with this?
The Scoop

Chestnut Hill, MA

#63 Aug 1, 2007
Concerned, I have to ask if you are for real. How much does the average police officer make? You are right on one thing, they do their jobs because they love them, not for the money because the money really isn't there. I think you are being misled by the news. If you want to become a police officer then why don't you. Lots of people say that want to but won't. There aren't thousands of people who want to become police officers. Wake up and take a look around you. The profession is lacking in recruiting because people have realized that being a police officer is no day in the park. Boston P.D. is taking lateral transfers for the 1st time ever in the history of the department because they can't get recruits to sign on. Today's police officer has to wear many hats. You have to be a terriorism specialist, Haz Mat specialist, civil rights specialist, deal with kids with guns, serious drug problems, a public who hates you until they need you and are just waiting for them to screw up so they can sue them. Sound like fun? Not for me!! What's your price? How much would you want to make? I have to challenge your statement that if it was you, you would expect to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. You are right.. he should not have been driving the vehicle if he was not licensed to but it doesn't mean that the entire incident was his fault and he should be hung. If the public expects Police Officers to be tried without discreation then police officers should treat the public the same. No breaks.. everyone gets ticketed or arrested. Sound good? Wake up!!! Your living in a bubble
Concerned Resident

Boston, MA

#64 Aug 1, 2007
Scoop, you make a compelling argument. I believe the starting police officer probably makes around $39K to start. The average officer is probably around $50K-$60K base.That's just my guess. Of course that does not include possible overtime and details. I understand that there are shortages in Boston and they are accepting lateral transfers, unfortunately you have to already be a police officer in a civil service town in order to laterally transfer. I could also move to another state to be a police officer, but then I would loose my hometown preference in Massachusetts. Pull up any civil service list for any town and you will see the names of thousands of candidates trying to become police officers for the that town or city. The Mass state police had over 18,000 people take the exam.
As far as Aaron being punished to the Max, I still stand by my statement. He was driving outside of his classification. I have no idea what the punishment is, maybe loss of license and fines. As far as the vehicular homicide and other charges pending against him, I think the courts will decide whether or not he is guilty or not.
As far as his job goes, if he can't abide by the laws, he should forfeit his right to enforce them.
based in reality

Danbury, CT

#65 Aug 15, 2007
if this guy was not a cop he would be facing a ton of trouble, but because he is one of the boys in blue he will get off easy. its messed up that you can kill a little girl and if your a cop people in the community will actualy defend you. yea it was an accident but he failed to control his car to the piont where he killed a child just outside her home. heres some advise aaron, slow down!
mansfield cops are asses

United States

#66 Aug 24, 2007
oh yeah and al-terd-boro as well. they suck. if you kill a kid without a proper licence its vehicluar manslaughter. i dont care if the pig has a badge. if it was you or i our lives would be runined. now he can live with the guilt of it. maybe its karma for all the shitty things that police dept does.
Tragedy waiting to happen

Foxboro, MA

#67 Sep 4, 2007
I posted this on another thread. This is a tragety and one that will most likely happen to someone off North street in Norton on the mansfield line where it connects to east street. There are always packs of children on bikes at all hours of the day and night. I even see small 4yr size kids skateboarding on the yellow lines on a very sharp corner. I need to blow the horn in my car as I drive throught the neighborhood everyday so I don't hit anyone. And I make sure I drive extra slow but the children don't even pa attention to whats going on around them.
This could ruin some lives if nothing is done about it. We need help here and people need to take responsibility of their kids actions to avoid it. I am scared to drive in this area. Police should notice all the parents in the neighborhood.

As you drive down Highland Street off 123 toward Mansfield the road turns into North Street. The idiot parents in the neighborhood let their kids play in the street all day and all night until 10 or 11pm some times. At least once or twice a week I see another car that almost hits one of them. One day I was driving by and there was a 4yr old riding a skateboard on the yellow line on the sharp corner that transitions to east street. The police should be aware. I know of 5 people that told me they need to beep almost everytime they drive by because the kids sit on their bikes in the middle of the street. These parents should be locked up for neglect and child abuse. Pay attention to your kids and throw the trash in your yards in a dumpster. Take pride in where you live you.
Witch Hunt

Brockton, MA

#68 Sep 6, 2007
]I can't believe you have the audacity to opine on the lack of intelligence of others. I lost count of all the spelling and grammar errors you made in your enrty. It is obvious that you have a complete distain for police officers and the law. I am not defending the actions of Mr. Fine I believe he was operating his vehicle in a reckless manner and that if he had not been doing so this accident would not have occurred. The way in which you describe police officers proves to me you are nothing more than an imbecile.
Tragedy waiting to happen

Foxboro, MA

#69 Sep 6, 2007
Anyone have a comment here. The reason things like this are called accidents is because they are accidents. No body wants to run over a chid. If they did this would be an on purpose and not an accident.
What goes around

AOL

#70 Sep 7, 2007
sal wrote:
hey aaron how was r christmas u killer
Somehow I don't think calling him a killer is going to make any of this better. Can you honestly say that you yourself or someone close to you have never done anything the regretted?
Silver boat RR

East Hartford, CT

#71 Sep 10, 2007
like detective Mike Elsworth would say "Strike 2 "
Aaron, Strike 3 and your out"
Silver boat RR

East Hartford, CT

#72 Sep 10, 2007
Like Mike Elsworth says "Strike 2 Aaron...Strike 3 and you are out ".
Silver boat RR

East Hartford, CT

#73 Sep 10, 2007
Like Mike Elsworth would say "Strike 2 Aaron, Strike 3 and you are out".
A neighbor

Ward, CO

#74 Sep 30, 2007
Here are some facts in this case.
The Truck was overloadedaccording to reports.
The driver had no proper license for the vehicle.
There was no posted speed limit on the stretch of Willow Street that commenced as Mansfield Street and runs to the Foxboro border, which the truck traversed before striking Rose. I know this because I brought it to the attention of Sharon DPW after the accident and they promptly mouted speed limit signs.

Rose was riding her bicycle against traffic.
Rose crossed into the lane of oncoming traffic.
The driver of the truck attempted an evasive manouever.
The street at the point of the accident is particularly narrow.

Clearly a motor vehicle infraction occurred in the course of the accident.

It is unclear what causal effect these infractions had with respect to the accident, except in the general sense that had Officer Fine not been driving the truck due to lack of proper licensing, he would not have struck Rose.

The Shatz family is entitled to justice and Officer Fine to a fair hearing of the charges.

My sense is that Off. Fine will plead to a lesser charge eventually, as I don't know where you find the recklessness or wanton disregard to support the Invol. Manslaughter charge.

No charge or conviction will return the lovely Rose to her family and community, or make any sense of the senseless loss brought on in this accident. I don't know how anyone goes on after this type of tragedy (an all too often used term, but exactly accurate here). As a witness to the scene within minutes after, I struggle with a heartache daily. I have no idea how those directly affected could bear it, except to say that the Shatz family has had powerful support from their friends and community, and have conducted their lives with dignity and honor in memorializing their extraordinary daughter who touched many hearts in her short ten years.

Some of the posters to this forum could do well to learn by their example and cease and desist from posting idiotic and heartless comments here.
The Reality Check

Boston, MA

#75 Nov 1, 2007
Police officers get paid relatively well. Nothing extravagant, but very well for what they deal with in a town such as Mansfield. People in general, believe that the police are special people. In fact, they are of moderate intelligence and live a very relaxed life, sitting in their cars picking and choosing who to write tickets too. Of course it'll never be another cop or politician or judge, because they're all superior to the average person. If the police are going to be placed on a pedastal due to their public duties, then they should be punished harder for violoating the laws they are paid to enforce. There should be no leniancy because someone is a civil servant. If you're enforcing the law, and you break it, the punishment should be even worse than an ordinary person. Not only are they breaking the law, they are also disregarding their responsibilities as police officers. Essentially, they're also crooked cops, in fact, all cops are crooked, and there's no way you can deny it. You think they write tickets to their families, coworkers, or themselves, I think not. Ever see a State cop going 100 on the highway? Almost every day for me.
jimmy

San Clemente, CA

#76 Nov 1, 2007
Another hot headed lead foot!
Bad things good people

Montpelier, VT

#77 Nov 12, 2007
Imagine what these comments feel like to a loving family man, who grew up in a small town, was a great student, worked incredibly hard to make a solid life for himself. Bad things happen to very good people. Aaron is one of the good guys. Please go find another cause to jump on... these are hurtful comments. Please be kind or go find another place to vent your hateful words.
No easy answer

United States

#78 Nov 14, 2007
No, I am sorry, Mr. Fine is NOT one of the good guys. Although as a police officer he knew the law, he chose to ignore it. He had been running his landscaping business for years and never bothered to obtain the proper training or licensing to lawfully operate the equipment. He overloaded the truck -- for economic gain -- knowing that that would render it all the more hazardous. Were he not a police officer, would he have risked the penalties for these infractions? I doubt it. This tragic accident was a direct consequence of his arrogance -- a jury will decide whether that makes it criminal. In my mind there is no other conclusion.
I agree

Palo Alto, CA

#79 Nov 19, 2007
The Reality Check wrote:
Police officers get paid relatively well. Nothing extravagant, but very well for what they deal with in a town such as Mansfield. People in general, believe that the police are special people. In fact, they are of moderate intelligence and live a very relaxed life, sitting in their cars picking and choosing who to write tickets too. Of course it'll never be another cop or politician or judge, because they're all superior to the average person. If the police are going to be placed on a pedastal due to their public duties, then they should be punished harder for violoating the laws they are paid to enforce. There should be no leniancy because someone is a civil servant. If you're enforcing the law, and you break it, the punishment should be even worse than an ordinary person. Not only are they breaking the law, they are also disregarding their responsibilities as police officers. Essentially, they're also crooked cops, in fact, all cops are crooked, and there's no way you can deny it. You think they write tickets to their families, coworkers, or themselves, I think not. Ever see a State cop going 100 on the highway? Almost every day for me.
I agree with this I beleive that if the law is that if a police officer is killed that the punishment is worse then I think that if a police officer commits a crime or does anything wrong they need to be held to a higher standard. I know of a police officer who sits at a bar night after night drinking and everyone knows he's a cop, I wonder how many times has he arrested people for DUI when I am sure that he must have driven over the legal limit but how is going to arrest him....NO ONE....there was a post written about cops turning on their lights to get through an intersection I see that alot they are going no where fast.
unknown

Clinton, MA

#80 Feb 15, 2008
Aaron is a grate person don't hurt his feeling what if you were him feeling so bad i think Aaron is a grate person even if he made a mistake .

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