Making Sense of the Tsarnaev Brothers

Making Sense of the Tsarnaev Brothers

There are 657 comments on the TIME.com story from Apr 19, 2013, titled Making Sense of the Tsarnaev Brothers. In it, TIME.com reports that:

A man looks in Moscow on April 19, 2013, at a computer screen displaying an undated picture of the 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at TIME.com.

Patriot

Tuxtla Gutiérrez, Mexico

#575 May 28, 2013
Youll are one crazy bunch of loons!
The Iron Zionism

Podgorica, Montenegro

#576 May 28, 2013
Bin Laden was created by CIA

And CIA was created by USA

And USA is run by JEWS

And Jews rule the world!

“In the cockles of weirdness”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#577 May 28, 2013
RED FLAG wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay! Now jerkwad, cite all the known CIA radical Muslim operatives that you know by name and nationality that worked for the CIA?
We will wait until you have your names posted here, on this forum.
Osama bin Laden

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulbuddin_Hekmat...
Hekmatyar met Margaret Thatcher in Downing Street when he was a favourite of MI6 and the CIA in the war against the Russians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Mohamed
Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed,(&#1593;&#1604 ;&#1610; &#1605;&#1581;&#16 05;&#1583;)(born June 3, 1952) is a double agent[1] who worked for both the CIA and Egyptian Islamic Jihad simultaneously, reporting on the workings of each for the benefit of the other.

Keep reading:
Since he simply walked into the CIA office in Cairo and asked to speak to the station chief and offered his services, the Americans assumed he was an Egyptian spy, but nevertheless recruited him to be a junior intelligence officer.[2] When tasked to infiltrate a mosque with ties to Hezbollah, he simply informed the leadership he was an American spy intending to collect information; since a loyal American spy was also in the congregation, he reported Mohamed's bizarre behaviour to the CIA, who dismissed him and sought to ban him from entering the United States.[2] Ironically however, he was simply picked up by the Special Forces in the American army, who sent him to the Special Warfare school and encouraged him to pursue a doctorate in Islamic Studies and teach courses on the Middle East.[2]

In the 1980s Mohamed trained anti-Soviet fighters en route to Afghanistan. FBI special agent Jack Cloonan called him "bin Laden's first trainer".[3] Mohamed was charged with the August 7, 1998 bombings of the United States embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. In October 2000, he pleaded guilty to five counts of conspiracy to kill nationals of the United States and to destroy U.S. property.

Mohamed was a major in the Egyptian army's military intelligence unit, until being discharged for suspected fundamentalism in 1984. He enlisted in the U.S. Army and used U.S. military information to train al-Qaeda and other Muslim militants, and write al-Qaeda's multivolume terrorist training guide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Abdel-Rahma...
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/22/nyregion/ci...

“In the cockles of weirdness”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#578 May 28, 2013
One Wrong wrote:
<quoted text>
No! He received training and weapons.
= he worked WITH them then.
Try again.
Patriot

Tuxtla Gutiérrez, Mexico

#579 May 28, 2013
Here comes Elvis............
hmphhh

United States

#580 May 28, 2013
RED FLAG wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay! Now jerkwad, cite all the known CIA radical Muslim operatives that you know by name and nationality that worked for the CIA?
We will wait until you have your names posted here, on this forum.
Wello, the latest one is Tsarnaevs' uncle, who married into the CIA. One big, happy jihadi family.

I can't wait for the movie to come out. Argo ain't nuthin' next to this.

"Ruslan Tsarnaev, the outspoken uncle of the brothers was married to Samantha A. Fuller until 2004. Samantha’s father is Graham Fuller, the senior CIA person who was one of the architects of the Afghan Islamic fundamentalist Mujahideen war against the Soviets. He was also involved in creating a global jihad network, presumably acting on behalf of CIA interests."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-boston-bombi...

Try using GPS, maybe you can find your way to the obvious now.
hmphhh

United States

#581 May 28, 2013
Maybe the FBI should do a no-knock search on Brzezinski's digs. Who knows what he might be harboring in there?

Since: Apr 13

Podolsk, Russia

#582 May 28, 2013
One Wrong wrote:
<quoted text>
No! He received training and weapons, but him and his family had more money than the CIA.
Now try again.
Yes he did. Al Quada was created by CIA to fight vs Soviets in Afganistan. This is well known fact.

American army fights in AFganistan with the very same people CIA trained and armed in 80s.
The Iron Francisko Franco

Podgorica, Montenegro

#584 May 29, 2013
Al Quada was created after Avganistan War.
But yes,CIA/USA Help them to fight against Soviets.

Funny....because USA Bankers like Jacob Schiff created Soviet Union...

So USA create USSR....and USA destroy USSR to create Al Quada...
LOL

USA create Here own enemies
Patriot

Mexico

#585 May 29, 2013
This is deeper than Elvis!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#586 May 29, 2013
Shem wrote:
What's funny it's mainly American documentaries that claim 911 was an inside job.

As was correctly stated WT7 collapsed for no apparent reason, it was a planned detonation.

The thick black smoke created from collapse of both towers was a result of high yield explosives used for detonation - there's no way falling concrete can create such thick black smoke by itself, it's similar to burning rubber - such thick black smoke is created usually only due to some exothermic chemical reaction. Falling concrete creates white dust. Somebody really believes that those huge steel rods supporting both towers could collapse in this fashion - one after the other in fashion of an entirely perfect planned detonation?
That's the kind of stupid only those who live rich fantasy lives believe.

WTC 7 was on fire for about 8 hours. Steel is not impervious to fire and bolted/welded connections are not impervious to shear forces created by thermal expansion and contraction that occur due to fire.

The thick black smoke was created from the burning materials made out if hydrocarbons.

Your post is complete idiocy.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#587 May 29, 2013
i can make sense of the Tarnaev brothers in one word. Islam!
RED FLAG

Carmel, ME

#588 May 29, 2013
-sunshine wrote:
<quoted text>
Osama bin Laden
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulbuddin_Hekmat...
Hekmatyar met Margaret Thatcher in Downing Street when he was a favourite of MI6 and the CIA in the war against the Russians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Mohamed
Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed,(&#1593;&#1604 ;&#1610; &#1605;&#1581;&#16 05;&#1583;)(born June 3, 1952) is a double agent[1] who worked for both the CIA and Egyptian Islamic Jihad simultaneously, reporting on the workings of each for the benefit of the other.
Keep reading:
Since he simply walked into the CIA office in Cairo and asked to speak to the station chief and offered his services, the Americans assumed he was an Egyptian spy, but nevertheless recruited him to be a junior intelligence officer.[2] When tasked to infiltrate a mosque with ties to Hezbollah, he simply informed the leadership he was an American spy intending to collect information; since a loyal American spy was also in the congregation, he reported Mohamed's bizarre behaviour to the CIA, who dismissed him and sought to ban him from entering the United States.[2] Ironically however, he was simply picked up by the Special Forces in the American army, who sent him to the Special Warfare school and encouraged him to pursue a doctorate in Islamic Studies and teach courses on the Middle East.[2]
In the 1980s Mohamed trained anti-Soviet fighters en route to Afghanistan. FBI special agent Jack Cloonan called him "bin Laden's first trainer".[3] Mohamed was charged with the August 7, 1998 bombings of the United States embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. In October 2000, he pleaded guilty to five counts of conspiracy to kill nationals of the United States and to destroy U.S. property.
Mohamed was a major in the Egyptian army's military intelligence unit, until being discharged for suspected fundamentalism in 1984. He enlisted in the U.S. Army and used U.S. military information to train al-Qaeda and other Muslim militants, and write al-Qaeda's multivolume terrorist training guide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Abdel-Rahma...
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/22/nyregion/ci...
You have bounced from Margaret Thatcher, to the FBI, to the Egyptian Army, to the US Army, to the vague notion the US Army enlisted Mohamed so he could write the al-Qaeda manual on Muslim terrorism.

You do know that this 'stuff' you are throwing all over the walls smells like feces? So when are you going to tie Mohamed in with the CIA?

Hell, when are you going to tie Thatcher, the FBI, and the US Army in with the CIA?
RED FLAG

Carmel, ME

#589 May 29, 2013
hmphhh wrote:
<quoted text>
Wello, the latest one is Tsarnaevs' uncle, who married into the CIA. One big, happy jihadi family.
I can't wait for the movie to come out. Argo ain't nuthin' next to this.
"Ruslan Tsarnaev, the outspoken uncle of the brothers was married to Samantha A. Fuller until 2004. Samantha’s father is Graham Fuller, the senior CIA person who was one of the architects of the Afghan Islamic fundamentalist Mujahideen war against the Soviets. He was also involved in creating a global jihad network, presumably acting on behalf of CIA interests."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-boston-bombi...
Try using GPS, maybe you can find your way to the obvious now.
How does one "marry" into the CIA?

So someone marries a person, who is related at another person, who is a "senior CIA person", and that makes the first person a CIA operative? What was this "senior person's CIA title", BTW?
RED FLAG

Carmel, ME

#591 May 29, 2013
Russian Ubermensch wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes he did. Al Quada was created by CIA to fight vs Soviets in Afganistan. This is well known fact.
American army fights in AFganistan with the very same people CIA trained and armed in 80s.
Since you theorists like Wikipedia as a source, let me quote Wiki's definition of al-Qaeda.

"Al-Qaeda, translation, "The Base", and alternatively spelled al-Qaida and sometimes al-Qa'ida is a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden at some point between August 1988 and late 1989, with it's origins being traceable to the SOVIET WAR IN AFGHANISTAN."

Nowhere in this definition does the term CIA appear. On the contrary, the statement doesn't know for sure the date of al-Qaeda's organization. Then there is the "origins being traceable" to the war with the Soviet Union, which seems to be the basis for forming "The Base", to wage Jihad against the occupation of Afghanistan by the USSR, well before the US and CIA got involved.

But this won't register with you without the "spin" placed on the debate by inaccurate and false data.
RED FLAG

Carmel, ME

#592 May 29, 2013
The Iron Francisko Franco wrote:
Al Quada was created after Avganistan War.
But yes,CIA/USA Help them to fight against Soviets.
Funny....because USA Bankers like Jacob Schiff created Soviet Union...
So USA create USSR....and USA destroy USSR to create Al Quada...
LOL
USA create Here own enemies
Now this is "bigtime spin" in the grand scheme of stupidity statements.

Since: Apr 13

Podolsk, Russia

#593 May 29, 2013
RED FLAG wrote:
<quoted text>
Since you theorists like Wikipedia as a source, let me quote Wiki's definition of al-Qaeda.
"Al-Qaeda, translation, "The Base", and alternatively spelled al-Qaida and sometimes al-Qa'ida is a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden at some point between August 1988 and late 1989, with it's origins being traceable to the SOVIET WAR IN AFGHANISTAN."
Nowhere in this definition does the term CIA appear. On the contrary, the statement doesn't know for sure the date of al-Qaeda's organization. Then there is the "origins being traceable" to the war with the Soviet Union, which seems to be the basis for forming "The Base", to wage Jihad against the occupation of Afghanistan by the USSR, well before the US and CIA got involved.
But this won't register with you without the "spin" placed on the debate by inaccurate and false data.
Are you going to deny the fact that CIA supported jihadists and Bin Laden personally during this war? Don`t forget that if USSR would have won in Afganistan, it would be a secular state without any Taliban in charge there and USA wouldn`t have to invade Afganistan itself. Why do you have problems in admiting that CIA are not angels?
BritPashtun DON

Hoddesdon, UK

#594 May 29, 2013
Russian Ubermensch wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you going to deny the fact that CIA supported jihadists and Bin Laden personally during this war? Don`t forget that if USSR would have won in Afganistan, it would be a secular state without any Taliban in charge there and USA wouldn`t have to invade Afganistan itself. Why do you have problems in admiting that CIA are not angels?
I totally agree with what you're saying of course they supported that scum because they are all zionest scums!
Exactly since the US invading and the taliban cowards trying to take charge it's been the worst the US bring their shit their like obsama!
the CIA support terror and rich arab extremists!
What Now

Carmel, ME

#595 May 29, 2013
Russian Ubermensch wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you going to deny the fact that CIA supported jihadists and Bin Laden personally during this war? Don`t forget that if USSR would have won in Afganistan, it would be a secular state without any Taliban in charge there and USA wouldn`t have to invade Afganistan itself. Why do you have problems in admiting that CIA are not angels?
No idiot blind person, I'm not! I am denying your posted allegation that the CIA created al-Qaeda and bin Laden. I can recommend you try a public library where the written, historical accounts are done in braille-you know, those little bumps on paper that represent letters for people who have eyes, but can't see.

And there you go deflecting the issue you can't defend by running off another bunch of ludicrous allegations involving the Taliban and your idea the US invaded Afghanistan.

And where is your assertion that the CIA is angels and my reply to it? Do you get some sort of fix out of making stuff up as you go along?

Blue_Eye_Gemini

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#596 May 29, 2013
There is no sense to be made of these two.

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