Restraining Order Still in Place on Greenhaw Annexation

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#63
Jul 8, 2012
 
Why did you men lower the salaries of the firemen? Yesterday I was told that you men gave a raise to the city hall ladies and a raise to the policemen.

Tell us, Pandora, if that is true.
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Jul 9, 2012
 
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There are no provisions for a recall election in the Decherd Charter. I do not agree with some thing the Board has don, most of the people in the city are happty the way things are being done. I understand the board was faced with a shortfall of $80,000 pluse and the firemens salaries had to be adjusted to what other cities the size of Decherd were paying. My grandson who liv es in the city went and looked at the salary schedule. Some wee making $61,000. one was making $65,000 two more in the $50,000 plus. The revenue could noty keep up with these salaries. Its public record. ISO rating will not being affected in anywaqy by having a puclice safety director. Most cities are going to this to save money. go to city hall and look at the facts like my grandson did.
Call me a dumb farmer, but next morning after you wrote these words, they were announced on one of the cowan stations around 5:30 or 6 when we were leaving to go work out on the farm. Tav used those same words and numbers. He used all the words and numbers you just wrote.

Can all of us Decherd residents go look at a person's end of year file? The one that gets sent to the Feds? Or can we just go look at their normal salary pay? What do you mean by public record? Can all of us go look at personnel files and see who has garnishments? Do aldermen have personnnel files? Can we see when they are garnished wages paid to them from our city tax money?

It would be nice foryou to answer my questions as soon as possible and be sure to tell us which name you are using on here from now on. You see. we're getting confused because you use so many different names.
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Surely the quoted text penned by "Miss Greenhaw" in the above post, is not from our recently retired school teacher/mayor. Since there are at least a dozen spelling and grammar errors in her/his/its post, I would not think a former teacher penned those remarks. But wait, we are still have FCHS graduates that can't make change for a dollar, much less construct a meaningful paragraph!!!

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let's refresh Robin's memory that HE WAS VOTED OUT as Alderman before..........

Chances are he will be VOTED OUT when it is time to for vote mayor again..........

He DID NOT get voted in by the people of Decherd as Mayor........He only got it because Betty Don resigned..........Anyone who spouts around town "It's my destiny to be Mayor" IS DANGEROUS not to mention narcissistic!!!!!!!

As to PANDORA.......I don't think the TBI would be wasting their resources investigating bribery charges if there wasn't something to it..........
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I remember the mayor back in he 90's when he ran for a county office. Stopped by my house with his dad; Otis got out and asked me to vote for his son. Son never got out of the car. So much for the mayor!!
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Jul 9, 2012
 
The following web address will give you all the information needed regarding the Tennessee Open Records Act. It explains what can and cannot be considered an "open record" and how to go about requesting them. It also explains that the records are only "open" to citizens of the State of Tennessee. It also states whether the requested may or may not be charged for the information. It is a very informative web site.
http://www.comptroller.tn.gov/openrecords/for...

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From The Herald Chronicle:

Decherd’s Appeal of Ruling on Special Election Denied

After Sequatchie County Judge Curtis Smith ruled June 12 not to lift the restraining order placed on the Decherd annexation referendum, the City of Decherd filed an application for extraordinary appeal to have the injunction rescinded.
The defendants were in disagreement with Judge Smith’s ruling, which halted the special election concerning the annexation of the Greenhaw Road property in Decherd until further notice.
The plaintiffs in the case were required to file a response to the city’s appeal.
Last week, after reviewing the plaintiffs’ response, the Court of Appeals of Tennessee at Nashville denied Decherd's appeal. Decherd was then given 30 days to appeal that decision.
Michael Rudder, a spokesperson for the Greenhaw group against the annexation, commented he and many others are in agreement with the decision to deny the appeal because it again shows the court system supports the belief that the annexation would be unlawful.
“We are fortunate to live in one of the few countries on the planet with a system that empowers common folk to stand up in opposition when governments overstep their bounds, and remind them that they exist to serve the public and not themselves,” Rudder said.“We're grateful that two separate and impartial courts have recognized the merits of this case, adding to the long list of legal rulings and opinions against this attempted annexation. It should be a clear message to everyone, and to Robin Smith, Don Cofer and Jimmy Wayne Sanders in particular, that the courts will never allow it, and to persist would be akin to petulant children trying to hold their breath to get their way. Let's hope that finally, they will acknowledge what they've been told time and time again, and in accordance with the principles of their elected office, do the right thing.”
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THEAsIf wrote:
From The Herald Chronicle:
Decherd’s Appeal of Ruling on Special Election Denied
After Sequatchie County Judge Curtis Smith ruled June 12 not to lift the restraining order placed on the Decherd annexation referendum, the City of Decherd filed an application for extraordinary appeal to have the injunction rescinded.
The defendants were in disagreement with Judge Smith’s ruling, which halted the special election concerning the annexation of the Greenhaw Road property in Decherd until further notice.
The plaintiffs in the case were required to file a response to the city’s appeal.
Last week, after reviewing the plaintiffs’ response, the Court of Appeals of Tennessee at Nashville denied Decherd's appeal. Decherd was then given 30 days to appeal that decision.
Michael Rudder, a spokesperson for the Greenhaw group against the annexation, commented he and many others are in agreement with the decision to deny the appeal because it again shows the court system supports the belief that the annexation would be unlawful.
“We are fortunate to live in one of the few countries on the planet with a system that empowers common folk to stand up in opposition when governments overstep their bounds, and remind them that they exist to serve the public and not themselves,” Rudder said.“We're grateful that two separate and impartial courts have recognized the merits of this case, adding to the long list of legal rulings and opinions against this attempted annexation. It should be a clear message to everyone, and to Robin Smith, Don Cofer and Jimmy Wayne Sanders in particular, that the courts will never allow it, and to persist would be akin to petulant children trying to hold their breath to get their way. Let's hope that finally, they will acknowledge what they've been told time and time again, and in accordance with the principles of their elected office, do the right thing.”

Please tell us again who is paying the legal fees for Decherd?
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Thank goodness for the rain. Maybe I cn salvage some of my crops before the rock quarry goes in and ruins all our wells and cattle ponds.

I was running to town for supplies yesterday when I noticed that the fire chief's car is being set up to look like a vehicle our fighting soldiers use in Afghanistan. Lots of new lights, bells and whistles. Is my city about to spend a bunch of money for a new stick on sign telling who is driving it? Someone told me the last 2 magnet signs cost us over $500. What's this new sign going to say and how much is it costing us residents?

One of the firemen was doing that work. Is it Kosher to have our firemen do that kind of work when on duty as firemen?
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Decherd firemen have tradionally saved the citizens of Decherd thousands of dollars by doing mechanical, body work, and painting, etc. on the departmental vehicles. These men know to do what the board says to do to keep their jobs and insurance benefits. If the salaries were high for some it was because the boards voted in past years to approve those salaries. Public records show this Miss Greenhaw. Public records will also show how Robin voted to raise salaries for department heads in excess of %40,000 a year to supposedly reduce overtime. Now he is the mayor and cannot vote on this foolishness, but too late. Mike Foster has taken command as city manager.
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Wow, I am amazed at all the misinformation out there....Robin Smith said if he had a vote he would vote in the affirmative (this meaning he supported the annexation). Betty Don never supported the annexation. Although the wheels of justice are slow, the right people are looking into this now...TBI! The 2nd appeal they have filed has been denied and now they are taking it to the State Supreme Court...TMI won't cover anything they have done since their own attorney advised them not to do it. What's is really interesting is that the Tinsley's say they are paying all the leagal fees for Deherd....if they deccide not too pay the Citizens of Decherd are the ones who will pay for it...something to consider in this craziness!
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The TBI thinks there's enough evidence of violations to launch an investigation. We'll have to wait and see if they come up with anything. And to clarify, Karl voted no, Robin didn't have to vote because Don and Jimmy Wayne voted yes but Robin is on record as saying he would have voted yes. It's in the minutes of the meeting. You can get a copy from Foster.
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The synopsis is that Greenhaw filed an injunction, the circuit court granted the injunction, Decherd appealed the injunction, the appellate court denied their appeal. Decherd appealed to the state supreme court this week. No word on when they`ll render a decision. FYI, it's a misconception that there's a bunch of tax revenue at stake, stemming from an erroneous MTAS report. Check this link where the author of that report acknowledged the error and said it's only about 10% of the original estimate.

http://www.mtas.tennessee.edu/KnowledgeBase.n...

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Thank you for this information. Do you have any information on the bribery charges being investigated by the TBI??????
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Some of the "information" on this site indicates that the Tinsleys are paying Decherd's legal expenses. If true, wouldn't this be a conflict of interest or a bribe in itself?
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I hear they are junk.
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Jul 14, 2012
 
Curious wrote:
Some of the "information" on this site indicates that the Tinsleys are paying Decherd's legal expenses. If true, wouldn't this be a conflict of interest or a bribe in itself?
I would think the courts would not look on this very kindly. Time for the very minority of Decherd's citizenry that wants a quarry in someone else's neighborhood to back off, rescind their actions, and more forward for the good of all concerned. The area residents do not want the quarry and 2 courts have agreed with the residents. Time for the Decherd board to get their heads out of their posteriors and do what is right!
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Jul 14, 2012
 
Not sure if paying legal fees or paving ball park for free constitute bribery. I assume TBI is looking into that. But the original request for annexation from Tinsley states that they`ll pay all expenses. Foster has a copy of that too.
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You know if someone offers to pay all my legal fees for doing something, I will know now to run the 0ther way.
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For those that may have missed this.

Text of Document: This annexation study overlooks two very significant errors:

1. Franklin County received $.15/ton for 277,000 tons of limestone last year. Revenues were based on that fact, and I considered that fact. Not all of the limestone was sold as limestone, a certain percentage was used in the making of asphalt, and then it was taxed when the asphalt was sold. That is a true statement for asphalt sales for paving driveways and parking lots.
2. What is a problem, however, is that 90% of the asphalt that is sold by paving companies is to the State and cities and counties—and they do not pay sales taxes. I knew this, but I overlooked it in preparing the revenue estimates. The revenue estimates, as a result, are highly over inflated.

I want to make sure that if our finance consultants, or management consultants, are called upon to prepare similar studies in the future, that they at least do not duplicate these mistakes.

The City of Winchester turned down the requested annexation of Greenhaw Road, which was about 6.8 miles from the city, and so, this is not a problem for them. It could well be a problem for some other city.

Don Darden

$41,550 in revenue provided all taxes were received. Problem is that state, cities, county, etc are tax exempt. Make you wonder what the actual revenue actually was?

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