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Eric 2016

Commerce, GA

#48 Apr 6, 2013
Dem crackers bees wayciss. Dem only rest black folk fo cheatin on dem test. How I know dey not bees no wite folk cheatin on dem testes and sheet. How I spose to know dat. Dem pOlice needs to bees seein if'n dey bees any wite folk cheatin on dem testes. I betcha you crackers won't bees laughin' if'n dey bees ketchin wite folk cheatin' on dem testes.
Tea Party Libertarian

Crofton, KY

#49 Apr 7, 2013
Grob Hahn wrote:
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They did that as well. The cheating was not just one process. It had other aspects to it. The media has reported on all of this, but somehow the eraser brigade is the only thing that seems to resonate with people. An entire generation of children was affected by this evil campaign to turn grades into dollars without actually having to educate them at all.
Grobbbbbbbb
I don't see anything wrong with putting slow learners in remedial schools, except insofar as I don't think being dull witted can be educated away.

The "eraser brigade" as you call it is the real crime. It stole taxpayers money be getting performance bonuses and school funding that the teachers and schools did not earn. They stole taxpayer's money pure and simple.

It also stole opportunities from the kids who performed within the acceptable range, but not especially high, on the tests by promoting the dullards ahead of them. Now those kids, the ones whose real test scores are on their records, rank lower than the ones whose scores the teachers falsified. The dull kids will now get the better jobs, college admissions, scholarships, etc. that the smarter kids really earned, but now won't get. Employers are cheated as well, because they will hire the dullards with false scores ahead of applicants that are really smarter and would make better employees.

Like I said before, I don't think this thing is limited to Atlanta. I think it is the tip of a nation wide iceberg. The only remedy I see for it is to get government out of education.

“Yet another average white man.”

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#50 Apr 7, 2013
Tea Party Libertarian wrote:
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I don't see anything wrong with putting slow learners in remedial schools, except insofar as I don't think being dull witted can be educated away.
The "eraser brigade" as you call it is the real crime. It stole taxpayers money be getting performance bonuses and school funding that the teachers and schools did not earn. They stole taxpayer's money pure and simple.
It also stole opportunities from the kids who performed within the acceptable range, but not especially high, on the tests by promoting the dullards ahead of them. Now those kids, the ones whose real test scores are on their records, rank lower than the ones whose scores the teachers falsified. The dull kids will now get the better jobs, college admissions, scholarships, etc. that the smarter kids really earned, but now won't get. Employers are cheated as well, because they will hire the dullards with false scores ahead of applicants that are really smarter and would make better employees.
Like I said before, I don't think this thing is limited to Atlanta. I think it is the tip of a nation wide iceberg. The only remedy I see for it is to get government out of education.

The "remedial schools" were nothing more than holding pens. Nothing remedial was taught. It was a way to keep them in limbo and in transition during the CRCT testing so they would be exempted by default. They were literally hiding the lowest performers in an effort to game the test.
Grobbbbbbb

Since: Jan 10

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#51 Apr 7, 2013
Tea Party Libertarian wrote:
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I don't see anything wrong with putting slow learners in remedial schools, except insofar as I don't think being dull witted can be educated away.
The "eraser brigade" as you call it is the real crime. It stole taxpayers money be getting performance bonuses and school funding that the teachers and schools did not earn. They stole taxpayer's money pure and simple.
It also stole opportunities from the kids who performed within the acceptable range, but not especially high, on the tests by promoting the dullards ahead of them. Now those kids, the ones whose real test scores are on their records, rank lower than the ones whose scores the teachers falsified. The dull kids will now get the better jobs, college admissions, scholarships, etc. that the smarter kids really earned, but now won't get. Employers are cheated as well, because they will hire the dullards with false scores ahead of applicants that are really smarter and would make better employees.
Like I said before, I don't think this thing is limited to Atlanta. I think it is the tip of a nation wide iceberg. The only remedy I see for it is to get government out of education.
The federal government won't allow the slower students to be removed from the regular classroom. This is called "mainstreaming", most teachers contribute mainstreaming the problem with trying to teach so many levels in one room, and a "dumbing down" of the curriculum. It has caused the bright students to be taught a curriculum which is not responsive to their needs. The only way real educators have overcome this is by having gifted classes for the brighter classes once or twice a week, depending upon the school system. Atlanta teachers resorted to changing grades rather than teaching the less qualified students the skills they needed to pass the CRCT.

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#52 Apr 7, 2013
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Justina Collins could tell something wasn’t right when her third-grade daughter excelled on standardized tests after posting the lowest scores in her class on other tests. Another parent, Rhoda Spence, never suspected her third-grader’s test scores were inflated until years afterward.

When both mothers later learned that Atlanta educators had falsified test results, their children’s abnormal scores finally made sense: Their families were victimized by the nation’s largest cheating scandal.

Their daughters are among the thousands of students who may have been harmed when educators faked test scores to meet their goals instead of reporting accurate results.
Tea Party Libertarian

Hopkinsville, KY

#53 Apr 7, 2013
Grob Hahn wrote:
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The "remedial schools" were nothing more than holding pens. Nothing remedial was taught. It was a way to keep them in limbo and in transition during the CRCT testing so they would be exempted by default. They were literally hiding the lowest performers in an effort to game the test.
Grobbbbbbb
Again, with a compulsory attendance public school system "holding pens" for the dullest kids is all that you can expect. I repeat, you can remedy ignorance with education but you cannot educate away stupid. It is a total waste of taxpayers' money to hold them in school and try to do the impossible. That is the cost of a socialist-minded system that makes it impossible to simply flunk them out.
Tea Party Man

Lexington, KY

#54 Apr 7, 2013
Tea Party Libertarian wrote:
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Again, with a compulsory attendance public school system "holding pens" for the dullest kids is all that you can expect. I repeat, you can remedy ignorance with education but you cannot educate away stupid. It is a total waste of taxpayers' money to hold them in school and try to do the impossible. That is the cost of a socialist-minded system that makes it impossible to simply flunk them out.
At least Atlanta is doing something even if it is just little. In McCreary County, KY, a mother's female lover was doing the students home work and nothing was done about it even by the state's Dept. of Education. Was the student being cheated? Of course. Nor has the Attorney General's office took any action against the corrupt school employees. The local prosecutor does next to nothing.
So, I guess in a way the black people of Atlanta that really want their kids to get an education can be proud that something is being done.
guest

Paragould, AR

#55 Apr 12, 2013
when you have a half black President that first lie was to pretend he is black and like black Americans. He grew up nothing like intercity blacks. The President is a liar and thief so what do you expect from the other blacks like these teachers.

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