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Kent State Firing Order Heard on 1970 Tape

There are 116 comments on the www.cbsnews.com story from May 10, 2010, titled Kent State Firing Order Heard on 1970 Tape. In it, www.cbsnews.com reports that:

A new analysis of a 40-year-old audio recording reveals that someone ordered National Guard troops to prepare to fire on students during a deadly Vietnam War protest at Kent State University in 1970, two forensics experts said.

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“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#102 May 17, 2010
Azjaeger wrote:
<quoted text>Yep, McNamara and the rest of the "Best & Brightest".Eastern upper class intellectuals, with degrees from Yale and Harvard, who were convinced that they, through their superior intellect and superior education, knew oh so much more about everything than the people who'd actually done it. Hmmmm...doesn't that sound kind of like a current regime we're all suffering through?:)
No, and we are suffering from the result of Dick Cheney pulling Bush's strings.

President Obama is still repairing the economic damage done by the incompetant GOP Lying neo-conservatives.

It does, however, sound very much like Cheney-Bush starting their adventurist war in Iraq, which has and had no basis in our national self interest.
The ""Best & Brightest".Eastern upper class intellectuals" you site at least (misguidedly) thought they were effecting a foreign policy, following the Kennan-Bohlen containment policies.

The GOP Lying neo-conservatives brought us to war in Iraq in order to increase the world prrice of oil; for profit. They abandoned the cause of 'making the 9/11/01 terrorists pay' by allowing Bin Laden and his staff to escape at Tora Bora; and abandoning Afghanistan for their war of private profit in Iraq.
Mac-7

Rowlett, TX

#103 May 17, 2010
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
No, and we are suffering from the result of Dick Cheney pulling Bush's strings.
President Obama is still repairing the economic damage done by the incompetant GOP Lying neo-conservatives.
It does, however, sound very much like Cheney-Bush starting their adventurist war in Iraq, which has and had no basis in our national self interest.
The ""Best & Brightest".Eastern upper class intellectuals" you site at least (misguidedly) thought they were effecting a foreign policy, following the Kennan-Bohlen containment policies.
The GOP Lying neo-conservatives brought us to war in Iraq in order to increase the world prrice of oil; for profit. They abandoned the cause of 'making the 9/11/01 terrorists pay' by allowing Bin Laden and his staff to escape at Tora Bora; and abandoning Afghanistan for their war of private profit in Iraq.
"The GOP Lying neo-conservatives brought us to war in Iraq in order to increase the world prrice of oil; for profit. "

That's just crazy Bill.

I'll concede that the invasion of Iraq was not a good idea.

But these petty and bitter attacks on Bush's motives make libs look as wacko fringe as they can possibly be.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#104 May 17, 2010
Mac-7 wrote:
<quoted text>
"The GOP Lying neo-conservatives brought us to war in Iraq in order to increase the world prrice of oil; for profit. "
That's just crazy Bill.
I'll concede that the invasion of Iraq was not a good idea.
But these petty and bitter attacks on Bush's motives make libs look as wacko fringe as they can possibly be.
Really?
He had some motive. "Revenge" for disrespect to his farher GHW Bush is laughable.

And what was the result?
And what $$$ did we pay for gas when Bush started?
And what $$$ did it go up to?
How much did you just pay?
Mac-7

Rowlett, TX

#105 May 17, 2010
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
Really?
He had some motive. "Revenge" for disrespect to his farher GHW Bush is laughable.
And what was the result?
And what $$$ did we pay for gas when Bush started?
And what $$$ did it go up to?
How much did you just pay?
If gas prices are your barometer then I'll just point out they are $1 a gallon higher since Obama took office.
Will

Columbus, OH

#106 May 17, 2010
Mac-7 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Back to the topic "
Yes, back to the topic.
Still no one has heard this order to fire except two hired guns of the lib news media.
Since you don't believe the story that's the basis for the thread, perhaps you should drop out. You're really not willing to be part of the discussion, you're simply a naysayer with no evidence that the story is false.
Phoenix

Sweet Home, OR

#107 May 17, 2010
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
Really?
He had some motive. "Revenge" for disrespect to his farher GHW Bush is laughable.
And what was the result?
And what $$$ did we pay for gas when Bush started?
And what $$$ did it go up to?
How much did you just pay?
You regard an assassination attempt on an ex-President's life
as "disrespect?"

Going thru the expense of removing Saddam from power was a
tactical error in a major way, but if you will consider the
terms of the end of the Gulf War and the accurate recording
of over 2,000 violations, the removal of Saddam was justified
by his flagrant defiance and disregard for the terms under
which he was NOT removed after the Gulf War.

Those violations have never been disputed, but under the
terms of closing the Gulf War, Saddam didn't have a leg to
stand on. We don't even need to discuss his deliberate
abuse of the "Oil for Food" program. That program is some-
thing the French have pushed under the rug.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#108 May 18, 2010
Mac-7 wrote:
<quoted text>
If gas prices are your barometer then I'll just point out they are $1 a gallon higher since Obama took office.
Nope.
About $3.00; down from a Bush high of over $5.00.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#109 May 18, 2010
Phoenix wrote:
<quoted text>
You regard an assassination attempt on an ex-President's life
as "disrespect?"
Going thru the expense of removing Saddam from power was a
tactical error in a major way, but if you will consider the
terms of the end of the Gulf War and the accurate recording
of over 2,000 violations, the removal of Saddam was justified
by his flagrant defiance and disregard for the terms under
which he was NOT removed after the Gulf War.
Those violations have never been disputed, but under the
terms of closing the Gulf War, Saddam didn't have a leg to
stand on. We don't even need to discuss his deliberate
abuse of the "Oil for Food" program. That program is some-
thing the French have pushed under the rug.
Bullshit.

I repeat. There was no reeason under our national interest to invate.

The conditions / violations you cite were still being processed by the UN.
Nobody is happy with their speed; but it remains that Bush's attack on Saddam Hussain's government was just an adventure; and has upset the regional BALANCE OF POWER, perhaps forever.
Phoenix

Sweet Home, OR

#110 May 18, 2010
Mr_Bill wrote:
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Bullshit.
I repeat. There was no reeason under our national interest to invate.
The conditions / violations you cite were still being processed by the UN.
Nobody is happy with their speed; but it remains that Bush's attack on Saddam Hussain's government was just an adventure; and has upset the regional BALANCE OF POWER, perhaps forever.
Bullshit.

I repeat. It was a dumb move, but not an illegal one given the
number of violations of the terms ending the Gulf War. Bill
Clinton himself noted there had been over 2000 incidents while
he was president. Still dumb, but not illegal. The assassination
attempt on the life of the man who was president during the Gulf
War was in itself sufficient.

You obviously have more confidence in the U.N. than anyone I
know. The U.N. was "processing" those reported incidents? Give
me a freakin' break, Mr. Bill. The U.N. is about as useless an
organization as you'll find anywhere.
Mac-7

Rowlett, TX

#112 May 20, 2010
Will wrote:
<quoted text>

Since you don't believe the story that's the basis for the thread, perhaps you should drop out. You're really not willing to be part of the discussion, you're simply a naysayer with no evidence that the story is false.
I suppose if the two "experts" were hired only to reassure the true believers then the lib journalists got their money's worth out of them.

But if you don't expand the group to include people who think for themselves based on evidence they can verify then the lib journalists were just preaching to the choir and actually accomplished very little.
Mac-7

Rowlett, TX

#113 May 20, 2010
Mr_Bill wrote:
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Nope.
About $3.00; down from a Bush high of over $5.00.
You're wrong again, Bill.

Gasoline was under $2 when Obama took office.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#114 May 20, 2010
Mac-7 wrote:
<quoted text>
You're wrong again, Bill.
Gasoline was under $2 when Obama took office.
Don't play games with me.
Oil prices were deliberately brought down just before the election, to lower anger with the incumbants. After the election, they floated back up.

Why did students at Kent State have to fear their president in 1970?
Mac-7

Rowlett, TX

#115 May 20, 2010
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't play games with me.
Oil prices were deliberately brought down just before the election, to lower anger with the incumbants. After the election, they floated back up.
Why did students at Kent State have to fear their president in 1970?
"Oil prices were deliberately brought down just before the election, to lower anger with the incumbants. After the election, they floated back up."

There is no truth to that since the price of oil is set on the world market that is bigger than our domestic oil companies.
Will

Columbus, OH

#116 May 21, 2010
Mac-7 wrote:
<quoted text>
I suppose if the two "experts" were hired only to reassure the true believers then the lib journalists got their money's worth out of them.
But if you don't expand the group to include people who think for themselves based on evidence they can verify then the lib journalists were just preaching to the choir and actually accomplished very little.
Blah, blah, blah, type and say nothing as usual. Are you capable of anything else?

Clearly fascist tyranny, including the mass murder of American citizens, is just fine with you. At least your posts have shown us THAT much.
Glasnos

Deltona, FL

#117 May 21, 2010
Mac-7 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Oil prices were deliberately brought down just before the election, to lower anger with the incumbants. After the election, they floated back up."
There is no truth to that since the price of oil is set on the world market that is bigger than our domestic oil companies.
Do not even try with Mr Bill ... his head is made of clay.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#118 May 22, 2010
Mac-7 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Oil prices were deliberately brought down just before the election, to lower anger with the incumbants. After the election, they floated back up."
There is no truth to that since the price of oil is set on the world market that is bigger than our domestic oil companies.
Right. And Saddam Hussain still has weapons of mass desruction.

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