Deadwood casino owners oppose smoking ban

Feb 28, 2009 Read more: KOTA 39

Since the days of the a Old West,' casinos and saloons have been synonymous with smoking.

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Butch

Elkhart, IN

#21 Jul 11, 2009
If I can't smoke then I won't go there anymore.I live in Indiana and go to S.D. every year for the rally.I will find some place to spend my money.
smokin aces

Talihina, OK

#22 Jul 11, 2009
deadwood will always have a place in my inlarged heart even speaking the name from my black lungs brings me joy

“Non smoking freedom loving vet”

Since: Apr 08

Chicago

#23 Jul 12, 2009
Don''t think that just passing a ban will get rid of those arrogant lobbyists. Once they find gullible lawmakers, they'll be back for the patios later, AFTER business owners spend thousands of dollars to build them for their smoking patrons.. This is a quote from page seven of the ban lobbyists instruction book.

"Tobacco control advocates should work 'from the inside out.'
Prior to addressing
outdoor restrictions, communities should first have effective smokefree laws for indoor
environments. Because people are exposed to higher levels of secondhand smoke in
indoor settings than in outdoor ones, it makes sense from a public health perspective to
protect nonsmokers indoors before seeking outdoor air laws.
There is emerging science on the health hazards of outdoor exposure to secondhand smoke," Here's the whole instruction book.

http://www.no-smoke.org/pdf/CIA_Fundamentals....
Danny

Seattle, WA

#24 Jul 12, 2009
Former New Yorker wrote:
In New York State we went through the "no smoking" ban. The state is now "smoke-free". We survived and so will SD. There are ALOT of non-smokers with plenty of money to spend, in fact the local establishments will see an influx of patronage because people will enjoy being out more in a cleaner environment and the smokers learned to adapt. What they did in NYS was create outdoor smoking areas. Even in the winter...it works.
http://www.forces.org/evidence/files/liars.ht...

I think we all need to do a little more research.
Click on the above link, and read the info for yourselves about some health benefits for smoking and nicotine.

I read them, and I think the American public has been lied to.

It is about time to publicize the other side of the story!!

Here's an excerpt from the above flink:
Danny

Seattle, WA

#25 Jul 12, 2009
Here's is a little excerpt on the other side of the story!

You are currently inside the
Official Reports on Active Smoking
area of the Scientific Evidence Portal





Official Reports on Active Smoking Scientific Evidence Listing (latest postings on top)
Since the first report of the United States Surgeon General in 1964, the world has been witnessing a never-ending tightening of regulations and prohibition against smoking. A veritable antismoking industry has been created with its own politics, economics and, especially, political agendas. In this section we host all the major official reports on active smoking, ranging from the first and sensible US SG Report of 1964 that stated that "statistical methods cannot establish proof of a causal relationship in an association" to the most recent ones, that state that there is scientific proof that smoking causes disease. In reality, nothing has changed, and there is still NO scientific proof that smoking causes disease. What has changed is the definition proof from an objective reality and repeatable phenomenon to the OPINION of a presumed majority that has used the force of politics to silence dissent.
CRS Report - Cigarette Taxes to Fund Health Care Reform: An Economic Analysis | Jane G. Gravelle, Dannis Zimmerman
Article Published: 1994/03/08

Click on following link, to read in context:

http://www.forces.org/Scientific_Portal/categ...

“The D is not for democrat”

Since: Jun 09

Mchenry, IL

#26 Jul 12, 2009
Danny wrote:
Here's is a little excerpt on the other side of the story!
You are currently inside the
Official Reports on Active Smoking
area of the Scientific Evidence Portal
Official Reports on Active Smoking Scientific Evidence Listing (latest postings on top)
Since the first report of the United States Surgeon General in 1964, the world has been witnessing a never-ending tightening of regulations and prohibition against smoking. A veritable antismoking industry has been created with its own politics, economics and, especially, political agendas. In this section we host all the major official reports on active smoking, ranging from the first and sensible US SG Report of 1964 that stated that "statistical methods cannot establish proof of a causal relationship in an association" to the most recent ones, that state that there is scientific proof that smoking causes disease. In reality, nothing has changed, and there is still NO scientific proof that smoking causes disease. What has changed is the definition proof from an objective reality and repeatable phenomenon to the OPINION of a presumed majority that has used the force of politics to silence dissent.
CRS Report - Cigarette Taxes to Fund Health Care Reform: An Economic Analysis | Jane G. Gravelle, Dannis Zimmerman
Article Published: 1994/03/08
Click on following link, to read in context:
http://www.forces.org/Scientific_Portal/categ...
Unless it comes from the government rabid anti smokers will not believe it.
Anonymous II and or III

Gillette, WY

#27 Jul 24, 2009
It looks like the petition to put the issue on the ballot was invalidated. I'm sure it'll end up in court, though.
http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...
SaltShaker

Wise, VA

#28 Jul 28, 2009
Country Liberal wrote:
Smoking should be banned. This type of events are unhealty. President Obama should close them and ban them.
Sieg Heil!!
j boohn

Le Sueur, MN

#29 Jul 15, 2011
Butch wrote:
If I can't smoke then I won't go there anymore.I live in Indiana and go to S.D. every year for the rally.I will find some place to spend my money.
Good! Save your money, you will need it for your Dr. bills from smoking. If you can guarantee your smoke won't come in my area where I am playing more power to you. Why is it you always hold your smokes away from yourself and blow smoke another direction? If it is soo good inhale and keep it there. Grow up.
ThomasA

Jacksonville, AL

#30 Jul 15, 2011
j boohn wrote:
<quoted text>
Good! Save your money, you will need it for your Dr. bills from smoking. If you can guarantee your smoke won't come in my area where I am playing more power to you. Why is it you always hold your smokes away from yourself and blow smoke another direction? If it is soo good inhale and keep it there. Grow up.
First it's the tit,then the pacifier, and then the cigarette.
Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#31 Jul 15, 2011
Let's see, now, the SD State Legislature has EXCLUSIVE authority to regulate tobacco use within the state--a statute so strict that even a school district wishing to increase protection for its students and faculty had to play "mother may I?"--and the tobacco industry STILL couldn't keep the extension of the proscription to taverns, casinos, and video gaming parlors from being enacted.

The governor signed it into law.

A small coalition of bar owners pushed through the petition drive to delay enforcement for a year and a half, using the battle cry of "LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE!".

The people agreed with the Legislature.

Now, that SAME set of malcontents is pressing a lawsuit saying the people had no right to make that decision.

Oh, well. Meanwhile, officials in the west end of the state (Black Hills, Badlands, and all that) are saying that businesses have been complying and handling enforcement themselves so well that there hasn't been a single citation. Sioux Falls, in the southeastern corner of the state, has apparently issued two citations.
ThomasA

Jacksonville, AL

#32 Jul 15, 2011
Words of the minute for smokers: 1 hack, 2 rasp,3 wheeeeeze, 4 harrrrrk, 5,6,7, cough,cough,cough. Sounds wonderful doesn't it? Bad words for long term smokers:" Gonna have to cut that ribcage to take out that lung!" It's not if but when. Picture that scene with the saw when you fire up another one.
Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#33 Jul 15, 2011
Danny wrote:
CRS Report - Cigarette Taxes to Fund Health Care Reform: An Economic Analysis | Jane G. Gravelle, Dannis Zimmerman
Article Published: 1994/03/08
Click on following link, to read in context:
http://www.forces.org/Scientific_Portal/categ...
Gee, speaking of context, I searched the Legacy Library database (tobacco industry documents online) for "Jane Gravelle" and it returned 2,314 hits. Many are duplicates or even quaduplicates, but I STILL have to wonder why the tobacco companies were so interested in her.

Interesting, though, that the POLITICIZED OPINION of an economist stating that the harm attributed to tobacco smoke BY HEALTH SCIENTISTS is nothing more than POLITICIZED OPINION.

More context? FORCES="Fight Ordinances and Restrictions to Control and Eliminate Smoking"--a sure bet to find unbiased commentary and spin-free, representative excerpts.

More context? Check the date provided. The TOPIX post gives it as 1993, which puts it smack in the middle of the tobacco industry's efforts to subvert science and discredit the EPA--activities documented in internal industry documents and activities figuring in the conviction of most American tobacco companies of collusion that made them little more than organized crime.
Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#34 Jul 15, 2011
Danny wrote:
Here's is a little excerpt on the other side of the story!
...
CRS Report - Cigarette Taxes to Fund Health Care Reform: An Economic Analysis | Jane G. Gravelle, Dannis Zimmerman
Article Published: 1994/03/08
Click on following link, to read in context:
My mistake. The copy/paste was apparently the spinning of someone from FORCES. It seems our "Danny" was engaging in some serious misdirection by pretending to provide a "citation" to give the spew credibility, even that semblance of credibility depended on an economist's view of medical science.

Ah, the intellectual honesty of smokers' apologists.
astjmklan

Englewood, CO

#35 Jul 26, 2011
Based upon the verifiable Central City, Black Hawk and Cripple Creek experiences you can count on revenues plummeting. You can also count on butts scattered around on the sidewalks and any other place where someone can duck out for a smoke. Just say "no thanks" and allow business to regulate customer choice. Have you noticed that everything the government touches turns to crap! Just look around and we are where we are because of the government.
ThomasA

Gadsden, AL

#36 Jul 26, 2011
astjmklan wrote:
Based upon the verifiable Central City, Black Hawk and Cripple Creek experiences you can count on revenues plummeting. You can also count on butts scattered around on the sidewalks and any other place where someone can duck out for a smoke. Just say "no thanks" and allow business to regulate customer choice. Have you noticed that everything the government touches turns to crap! Just look around and we are where we are because of the government.
So you are admitting that smokers will continue to use the public enviroment for their ashtray! That's wonderful! It's the smoker's nasty,rude,self centered conduct,and the d.g.a.s. attitude that's getting laws passed against them around the country. HELLO, WAKE UP !
Jim

Sebeka, MN

#37 Sep 1, 2011
My wife and I spend a week in Deadwood every March and every September, two weeks EVERY year before the rush and after the rush. We stay in a hotel that has a 'smoking' room, a convenience they offer their guests. We play at a lot of the casinos, but I would have to say mostly Tin Lizzie's. If the smoking were to be bannedin Deadwood's casinos, I KNOW we wouldn't be back.
The local Indain casinos still have smoking and I imagine always will since they make their own laws regarding that. We will most likely just choose a few of the Indian Casinos in SD, or wherever, and have our vacation there. If Deadwood's business increases because we are banned, more power to them!
arzaw

Kansas City, MO

#38 Sep 12, 2011
ThomasA wrote:
Words of the minute for smokers: 1 hack, 2 rasp,3 wheeeeeze, 4 harrrrrk, 5,6,7, cough,cough,cough. Sounds wonderful doesn't it? Bad words for long term smokers:" Gonna have to cut that ribcage to take out that lung!" It's not if but when. Picture that scene with the saw when you fire up another one.
Meanwhile you continue to molest children.
Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#39 Sep 13, 2011
ThomasA wrote:
Words of the minute for smokers: 1 hack, 2 rasp,3 wheeeeeze, 4 harrrrrk, 5,6,7, cough,cough,cough. Sounds wonderful doesn't it? Bad words for long term smokers:" Gonna have to cut that ribcage to take out that lung!"
Hey, come on with the scare tactics. They are doing a lot more these days with arthroscopy, so they can probably just make a small incision and insert a scalpel and a miniature garbage disposal, to get that lung out of their, plus a mini-blowtorch to cauterize the wounds, and send you home the next day!

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